Post Amazingly Cool Pictures Of Ships or Boats!

Post Amazingly Cool Pictures Of Ships or Boats!

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AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Shar2 said:
You can stop with the WAFU comments wink How many people do you need in ATC, yes we could only get three or so people in the office on Lusty or Vinnie but we didn't have any problems. But to be fair, they didn't really have a lot of deck to see, with only 5 spot out of view directly aft of the island. The thing that really worked with the old style islands was that physical connection, where, if comms went down, you could just walk to atco in the dry to talk to boss and lil boss. I like the idea of smaller islands but I just hate the idea of the two. If the US crews can organise 4.5 acres of deck with 80+ aircraft on it, then surely the Thales should have been able to design something practical in a similar manner?
He, he :lol:
I'm now a Battlespace Architect, but was an AB(EW) in the mob a few years ago.
The New FLYCO has complete panoramic view of the flight deck and house 7 workstations (my job on the project is Role Definition), two seats are for CAG and 'F' when they come up for a goon, and 5 other seats for Little 'F', DOO, ATC bod and a couple of other's. Also, these flgith decks will be a tad busier than those you're used to.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Fabric 2.2 said:
F-35?
Yep.

Shar2

2,215 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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AshVX220 said:
Shar2 said:
You can stop with the WAFU comments wink How many people do you need in ATC, yes we could only get three or so people in the office on Lusty or Vinnie but we didn't have any problems. But to be fair, they didn't really have a lot of deck to see, with only 5 spot out of view directly aft of the island. The thing that really worked with the old style islands was that physical connection, where, if comms went down, you could just walk to atco in the dry to talk to boss and lil boss. I like the idea of smaller islands but I just hate the idea of the two. If the US crews can organise 4.5 acres of deck with 80+ aircraft on it, then surely the Thales should have been able to design something practical in a similar manner?
He, he :lol:
I'm now a Battlespace Architect, but was an AB(EW) in the mob a few years ago.
The New FLYCO has complete panoramic view of the flight deck and house 7 workstations (my job on the project is Role Definition), two seats are for CAG and 'F' when they come up for a goon, and 5 other seats for Little 'F', DOO, ATC bod and a couple of other's. Also, these flgith decks will be a tad busier than those you're used to.
Sounds like a cool job for an ex fishead. winkbiggrin No doubt they will be busier, (just wished I could have joined up when we had the old Ark Royal) But you can't get much busier than a US carrier deck at full ops. It still boils down to the fact that the QE's are gas turbine powered, (oh that they were to be nuclear powered), that would have just been brilliant. I'm sure I'll get used to them, but it just grates a bit in that we used to produce, (still do in some cases), some damn fine looking ships.

FourWheelDrift

88,381 posts

283 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Not so much cool, as sad.

SS Blue Lady, (ex-SS Norway, ex-SS France) driven into the beach at Alang India for scrapping 2007-2008. Before the building of the Queen Mary 2 this was the longest passenger ship ever built.







How it used to be. This is when it was cool.

Munter

31,319 posts

240 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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American Star. Sunning itself on the beach of the Holiday Island Fuerteventura.

Shar2

2,215 posts

212 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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What a demeaning end for such a fine looking ship. Someone really should have taken the France in hand, I'm sure they could have done a hotel job or something with her, like the QE2 is to be soon.

TomE

1,252 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Not really amazing cool, but amazingly sad.

HMS Kellington sinking on the Tees.

She has been berthed here since the early 90's and was used as a sea cadets training vessel until she was condemed. She has been left untouched and rotting on the Tees ever since, and over the weekend some local chavs managed to get on board and steal the bilge pump which was helping to keep her afloat.

She is now resting on the river bed surrounded by a British waterways boom, listing heavily and due to be dismanted ASAP.

As she is now:


Back in her glory days:


GTO Scott

3,816 posts

223 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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FourWheelDrift

88,381 posts

283 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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If you thought the QE2 was a big ship (it is) here it is alongside the Queen Mary 2.




Jarama79

123 posts

199 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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Paddy_n_Murphy said:
Would Sir like the next size up ?

They cut 'n' shut ships too? smile

Then, I suppose all that filler would aid buoyancy...

XJSJohn

15,959 posts

218 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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TomE said:
Not really amazing cool, but amazingly sad.

HMS Kellington sinking on the Tees.

She has been berthed here since the early 90's and was used as a sea cadets training vessel until she was condemed. She has been left untouched and rotting on the Tees ever since, and over the weekend some local chavs managed to get on board and steal the bilge pump which was helping to keep her afloat.

She is now resting on the river bed surrounded by a British waterways boom, listing heavily and due to be dismanted ASAP.

As she is now:


Back in her glory days:

An old Vospers minesweeper, the Malaysian navy has a big flotilla of these old girls (Ex RN) at Lumot on the west side of the Malay Peninsula.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

197 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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Shar2 said:
AshVX220 said:
Shar2 said:
You can stop with the WAFU comments wink How many people do you need in ATC, yes we could only get three or so people in the office on Lusty or Vinnie but we didn't have any problems. But to be fair, they didn't really have a lot of deck to see, with only 5 spot out of view directly aft of the island. The thing that really worked with the old style islands was that physical connection, where, if comms went down, you could just walk to atco in the dry to talk to boss and lil boss. I like the idea of smaller islands but I just hate the idea of the two. If the US crews can organise 4.5 acres of deck with 80+ aircraft on it, then surely the Thales should have been able to design something practical in a similar manner?
He, he :lol:
I'm now a Battlespace Architect, but was an AB(EW) in the mob a few years ago.
The New FLYCO has complete panoramic view of the flight deck and house 7 workstations (my job on the project is Role Definition), two seats are for CAG and 'F' when they come up for a goon, and 5 other seats for Little 'F', DOO, ATC bod and a couple of other's. Also, these flgith decks will be a tad busier than those you're used to.
Sounds like a cool job for an ex fishead. winkbiggrin No doubt they will be busier, (just wished I could have joined up when we had the old Ark Royal) But you can't get much busier than a US carrier deck at full ops. It still boils down to the fact that the QE's are gas turbine powered, (oh that they were to be nuclear powered), that would have just been brilliant. I'm sure I'll get used to them, but it just grates a bit in that we used to produce, (still do in some cases), some damn fine looking ships.
Nuclear is a bad idea wrt which ports you can visit. More and more places will not allow a nukes.

Battenburg Bob

8,686 posts

191 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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XJSJohn said:
TomE said:
Not really amazing cool, but amazingly sad.

HMS Kellington sinking on the Tees.

She has been berthed here since the early 90's and was used as a sea cadets training vessel until she was condemed. She has been left untouched and rotting on the Tees ever since, and over the weekend some local chavs managed to get on board and steal the bilge pump which was helping to keep her afloat.

She is now resting on the river bed surrounded by a British waterways boom, listing heavily and due to be dismanted ASAP.

As she is now:


Back in her glory days:

An old Vospers minesweeper, the Malaysian navy has a big flotilla of these old girls (Ex RN) at Lumot on the west side of the Malay Peninsula.
I served in HMS Sheraton, one of the last Ton class to be in service. Mahogany hulled and an interesting experience to say the least.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

189 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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rhinochopig said:
Shar2 said:
AshVX220 said:
Shar2 said:
You can stop with the WAFU comments wink How many people do you need in ATC, yes we could only get three or so people in the office on Lusty or Vinnie but we didn't have any problems. But to be fair, they didn't really have a lot of deck to see, with only 5 spot out of view directly aft of the island. The thing that really worked with the old style islands was that physical connection, where, if comms went down, you could just walk to atco in the dry to talk to boss and lil boss. I like the idea of smaller islands but I just hate the idea of the two. If the US crews can organise 4.5 acres of deck with 80+ aircraft on it, then surely the Thales should have been able to design something practical in a similar manner?
He, he :lol:
I'm now a Battlespace Architect, but was an AB(EW) in the mob a few years ago.
The New FLYCO has complete panoramic view of the flight deck and house 7 workstations (my job on the project is Role Definition), two seats are for CAG and 'F' when they come up for a goon, and 5 other seats for Little 'F', DOO, ATC bod and a couple of other's. Also, these flgith decks will be a tad busier than those you're used to.
Sounds like a cool job for an ex fishead. winkbiggrin No doubt they will be busier, (just wished I could have joined up when we had the old Ark Royal) But you can't get much busier than a US carrier deck at full ops. It still boils down to the fact that the QE's are gas turbine powered, (oh that they were to be nuclear powered), that would have just been brilliant. I'm sure I'll get used to them, but it just grates a bit in that we used to produce, (still do in some cases), some damn fine looking ships.
Nuclear is a bad idea wrt which ports you can visit. More and more places will not allow a nukes.
Indeed, though IMO the government should be think more about capability than PR. Nukes still offer far more bang for the buck and allow the use of cat's and trap's. Though the biggest expense of nukes is getting rid of them when they're at the end of their service.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

197 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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AshVX220 said:
rhinochopig said:
Shar2 said:
AshVX220 said:
Shar2 said:
You can stop with the WAFU comments wink How many people do you need in ATC, yes we could only get three or so people in the office on Lusty or Vinnie but we didn't have any problems. But to be fair, they didn't really have a lot of deck to see, with only 5 spot out of view directly aft of the island. The thing that really worked with the old style islands was that physical connection, where, if comms went down, you could just walk to atco in the dry to talk to boss and lil boss. I like the idea of smaller islands but I just hate the idea of the two. If the US crews can organise 4.5 acres of deck with 80+ aircraft on it, then surely the Thales should have been able to design something practical in a similar manner?
He, he :lol:
I'm now a Battlespace Architect, but was an AB(EW) in the mob a few years ago.
The New FLYCO has complete panoramic view of the flight deck and house 7 workstations (my job on the project is Role Definition), two seats are for CAG and 'F' when they come up for a goon, and 5 other seats for Little 'F', DOO, ATC bod and a couple of other's. Also, these flgith decks will be a tad busier than those you're used to.
Sounds like a cool job for an ex fishead. winkbiggrin No doubt they will be busier, (just wished I could have joined up when we had the old Ark Royal) But you can't get much busier than a US carrier deck at full ops. It still boils down to the fact that the QE's are gas turbine powered, (oh that they were to be nuclear powered), that would have just been brilliant. I'm sure I'll get used to them, but it just grates a bit in that we used to produce, (still do in some cases), some damn fine looking ships.
Nuclear is a bad idea wrt which ports you can visit. More and more places will not allow a nukes.
Indeed, though IMO the government should be think more about capability than PR. Nukes still offer far more bang for the buck and allow the use of cat's and trap's. Though the biggest expense of nukes is getting rid of them when they're at the end of their service.
The capability issue is one of the drivers for not using an NSRP - you want your carriers to be able to dock in as many ports as possible. Modern GTs (as fitted to T-45) give you more than adequate power, and if they really wanted steam cats they could fit some modern (smaller more efficient) SGs.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

242 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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Shar2

2,215 posts

212 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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rhinochopig said:
AshVX220 said:
rhinochopig said:
Shar2 said:
AshVX220 said:
Shar2 said:
You can stop with the WAFU comments wink How many people do you need in ATC, yes we could only get three or so people in the office on Lusty or Vinnie but we didn't have any problems. But to be fair, they didn't really have a lot of deck to see, with only 5 spot out of view directly aft of the island. The thing that really worked with the old style islands was that physical connection, where, if comms went down, you could just walk to atco in the dry to talk to boss and lil boss. I like the idea of smaller islands but I just hate the idea of the two. If the US crews can organise 4.5 acres of deck with 80+ aircraft on it, then surely the Thales should have been able to design something practical in a similar manner?
He, he :lol:
I'm now a Battlespace Architect, but was an AB(EW) in the mob a few years ago.
The New FLYCO has complete panoramic view of the flight deck and house 7 workstations (my job on the project is Role Definition), two seats are for CAG and 'F' when they come up for a goon, and 5 other seats for Little 'F', DOO, ATC bod and a couple of other's. Also, these flgith decks will be a tad busier than those you're used to.
Sounds like a cool job for an ex fishead. winkbiggrin No doubt they will be busier, (just wished I could have joined up when we had the old Ark Royal) But you can't get much busier than a US carrier deck at full ops. It still boils down to the fact that the QE's are gas turbine powered, (oh that they were to be nuclear powered), that would have just been brilliant. I'm sure I'll get used to them, but it just grates a bit in that we used to produce, (still do in some cases), some damn fine looking ships.
Nuclear is a bad idea wrt which ports you can visit. More and more places will not allow a nukes.
Indeed, though IMO the government should be think more about capability than PR. Nukes still offer far more bang for the buck and allow the use of cat's and trap's. Though the biggest expense of nukes is getting rid of them when they're at the end of their service.
The capability issue is one of the drivers for not using an NSRP - you want your carriers to be able to dock in as many ports as possible. Modern GTs (as fitted to T-45) give you more than adequate power, and if they really wanted steam cats they could fit some modern (smaller more efficient) SGs.
I think we've had this difference of opinion before biggrin But on the question of steam cats, that is so last century, even the US are looking at electomagnetic cats.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

197 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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Shar2 said:
rhinochopig said:
AshVX220 said:
rhinochopig said:
Shar2 said:
AshVX220 said:
Shar2 said:
You can stop with the WAFU comments wink How many people do you need in ATC, yes we could only get three or so people in the office on Lusty or Vinnie but we didn't have any problems. But to be fair, they didn't really have a lot of deck to see, with only 5 spot out of view directly aft of the island. The thing that really worked with the old style islands was that physical connection, where, if comms went down, you could just walk to atco in the dry to talk to boss and lil boss. I like the idea of smaller islands but I just hate the idea of the two. If the US crews can organise 4.5 acres of deck with 80+ aircraft on it, then surely the Thales should have been able to design something practical in a similar manner?
He, he :lol:
I'm now a Battlespace Architect, but was an AB(EW) in the mob a few years ago.
The New FLYCO has complete panoramic view of the flight deck and house 7 workstations (my job on the project is Role Definition), two seats are for CAG and 'F' when they come up for a goon, and 5 other seats for Little 'F', DOO, ATC bod and a couple of other's. Also, these flgith decks will be a tad busier than those you're used to.
Sounds like a cool job for an ex fishead. winkbiggrin No doubt they will be busier, (just wished I could have joined up when we had the old Ark Royal) But you can't get much busier than a US carrier deck at full ops. It still boils down to the fact that the QE's are gas turbine powered, (oh that they were to be nuclear powered), that would have just been brilliant. I'm sure I'll get used to them, but it just grates a bit in that we used to produce, (still do in some cases), some damn fine looking ships.
Nuclear is a bad idea wrt which ports you can visit. More and more places will not allow a nukes.
Indeed, though IMO the government should be think more about capability than PR. Nukes still offer far more bang for the buck and allow the use of cat's and trap's. Though the biggest expense of nukes is getting rid of them when they're at the end of their service.
The capability issue is one of the drivers for not using an NSRP - you want your carriers to be able to dock in as many ports as possible. Modern GTs (as fitted to T-45) give you more than adequate power, and if they really wanted steam cats they could fit some modern (smaller more efficient) SGs.
I think we've had this difference of opinion before biggrin But on the question of steam cats, that is so last century, even the US are looking at electomagnetic cats.
Indeed hehe

I agree with EM as a better long term solution though. I would imagine that a linear accelerator would be kinder to the airframe as you could precisely control the acceleration rate.

It'd look crap in war films though - how would they get the arty slow-mo shots of steam drifting across the deck as the hero hurtles off to war.

Shar2

2,215 posts

212 months

Friday 10th April 2009
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True, although they would still need a bit of steam to show when the wind was directly over the flightdeck, for effects purposes only, of course.

Rum Runner

2,338 posts

216 months

Saturday 11th April 2009
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The biggest the bad'est and the mad'est of them all.
http://www.battleshipyamato.info/
It took 12 bombs and 7 torpedos and 1500 Amercian ships and she was near enough on her own to get final get her to the bottom.