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XJSJohn

15,963 posts

219 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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As a died in the wool WAFI, that does look like a rather sleek superyacht motorboat with 3 silly sticks on-top.

I bet it gets expensive every time she heels over like that .... crockery and crystal smashing into everything !!!



Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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XJSJohn said:
As a died in the wool WAFI, that does look like a rather sleek superyacht motorboat with 3 silly sticks on-top.

I bet it gets expensive every time she heels over like that .... crockery and crystal smashing into everything !!!
The yacht has been designed and built as a Sailing Yacht which is her primary mode of propulsion. She is NOT a 'Motorboat' but the largest private Sailing Yacht in the world.

As it was built as a sailing yacht it may come as no surprise that the interior fittings have been designed accordingly...so no smashing of crockery or crystal.

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Speculatore said:
XJSJohn said:
As a died in the wool WAFI, that does look like a rather sleek superyacht motorboat with 3 silly sticks on-top.

I bet it gets expensive every time she heels over like that .... crockery and crystal smashing into everything !!!
The yacht has been designed and built as a Sailing Yacht which is her primary mode of propulsion. She is NOT a 'Motorboat' but the largest private Sailing Yacht in the world.

As it was built as a sailing yacht it may come as no surprise that the interior fittings have been designed accordingly...so no smashing of crockery or crystal.
Hydraulic or electric winches? I imagine she needs at least one generator on the board to ‘sail’. How far would she get without any diesel in her tanks?

Our deck crew on Athena insisted she was a ‘sailing’ boat too but likewise, she wouldn’t go anywhere without the diesel donks running. No capability to put up any rags by hand.

They are all motorboats.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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LimaDelta said:
Hydraulic or electric winches? I imagine she needs at least one generator on the board to ‘sail’. How far would she get without any diesel in her tanks?

Our deck crew on Athena insisted she was a ‘sailing’ boat too but likewise, she wouldn’t go anywhere without the diesel donks running. No capability to put up any rags by hand.

They are all motorboats.
Just like Wild Oats XI then wink

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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LimaDelta said:
Speculatore said:
XJSJohn said:
As a died in the wool WAFI, that does look like a rather sleek superyacht motorboat with 3 silly sticks on-top.

I bet it gets expensive every time she heels over like that .... crockery and crystal smashing into everything !!!
The yacht has been designed and built as a Sailing Yacht which is her primary mode of propulsion. She is NOT a 'Motorboat' but the largest private Sailing Yacht in the world.

As it was built as a sailing yacht it may come as no surprise that the interior fittings have been designed accordingly...so no smashing of crockery or crystal.
Hydraulic or electric winches? I imagine she needs at least one generator on the board to ‘sail’. How far would she get without any diesel in her tanks?

Our deck crew on Athena insisted she was a ‘sailing’ boat too but likewise, she wouldn’t go anywhere without the diesel donks running. No capability to put up any rags by hand.

They are all motorboats.
We have two large 'Battery Storage Banks' that receive and store energy provided by forward movement under sail. The energy provided runs all interior services and as I speak the yacht is travelling at 18.2 knots under full sail with NO generators or engines fired up. The yacht is generating energy which is sored in the battery banks. We can sail across the Atlantic using Zero fuel.

SY Black Pearl is the most ecologically advanced superyacht in the world...

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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SY Black Pearl – Press Release:

OCEANCO DELIVERS THE 106.7M (350FT) BLACK PEARL - THE LARGEST DYNARIG SAILING YACHT IN THE WORLD

The 106.7m (350ft) three-masted sailing yacht Black Pearl is unlike any yacht the world has ever seen. This unique and complex vessel is the realization of a discerning Owner’s vision. She is the result of an elaborate and successful collaboration on the part of an international group of designers, engineers, naval architects, builders, and project managers.

The designers Ken Freivokh Design, Nuvolari Lenard and Villate Design all played a significant role in Black Pearl’s design evolution. Dykstra Naval Architects designed Black Pearl’s three 70 meter (230ft) DynaRig carbon masts and sailing system. The sail area is subdivided into smaller lesser-loaded sails and they can be set or furled by pushing a button. Astonishingly, all 2,900 square meter of sails can be set in 7 minutes.

BMT, Nigel Gee collaborated with Oceanco to create Black Pearl’s hybrid propulsion system as well as other onboard systems such as waste heat recovery. Since her launch, Black Pearl has proven to be a new generation landmark sailing yacht with a unique identity.

Not only is she the largest sailing yacht in the world, but her unique features such as the state of the art DynaRig system, single level engine room, a hybrid propulsion installation and regeneration mode when under sail – she is set to turn heads the world over - and for decades to come.

Black Pearl will operate under the Flag administration of the ‘Cayman Islands Shipping Registry’ and managed by ‘Divergent Yachting Ltd’ based in the New Forest in the UK.

Technical Specifications
Type: Steel Hull and Aluminium Superstructure
Length: 106.7m / 350ft
Beam: 15m / 49ft
Speed: 17.5 knots / up to 30 knots under sail
Exterior Design: Ken Freivokh Design / Nuvolari Lenard
Interior Design: Ken Freivokh Design / Nuvolari Lenard / Villate Design
Naval Architecture: Oceanco / Dykstra Naval Architects
Owner’s Rep/Build Project Manager: Derek Munro – Yacht Consultancy
Flag: Cayman Islands Shipping Registry
Management Company: Divergent Yachting Ltd

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Speculatore said:
LimaDelta said:
Speculatore said:
XJSJohn said:
As a died in the wool WAFI, that does look like a rather sleek superyacht motorboat with 3 silly sticks on-top.

I bet it gets expensive every time she heels over like that .... crockery and crystal smashing into everything !!!
The yacht has been designed and built as a Sailing Yacht which is her primary mode of propulsion. She is NOT a 'Motorboat' but the largest private Sailing Yacht in the world.

As it was built as a sailing yacht it may come as no surprise that the interior fittings have been designed accordingly...so no smashing of crockery or crystal.
Hydraulic or electric winches? I imagine she needs at least one generator on the board to ‘sail’. How far would she get without any diesel in her tanks?

Our deck crew on Athena insisted she was a ‘sailing’ boat too but likewise, she wouldn’t go anywhere without the diesel donks running. No capability to put up any rags by hand.

They are all motorboats.
We have two large 'Battery Storage Banks' that receive and store energy provided by forward movement under sail. The energy provided runs all interior services and as I speak the yacht is travelling at 18.2 knots under full sail with NO generators or engines fired up. The yacht is generating energy which is sored in the battery banks. We can sail across the Atlantic using Zero fuel.

SY Black Pearl is the most ecologically advanced superyacht in the world...
I stand corrected. Sounds like quite a setup. What is the normal hotel load underway?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Speculators, sounds awesome. May I ask how the energy is converted? Is it a solar system applied to the sail area? My guess would be battery power for at least 1000kw/h and also assuming these are lithium Ion. Cheers

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Burwood said:
Speculators, sounds awesome. May I ask how the energy is converted? Is it a solar system applied to the sail area? My guess would be battery power for at least 1000kw/h and also assuming these are lithium Ion. Cheers
In simplistic terms and not getting too technical.. When under sail power we feather the blades on the props so the 'drag' rotates them and therefore the shaft. The rotation of the shaft(s) uses a dynamo effect to produce electrical energy that can either be stored in the battery system or power the interior services or both. The batteries can act as a separate generator allowing the yacht to depart a marina in 'Stealth' mode.

Flying Phil

1,584 posts

145 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Speculatore said:
Burwood said:
Speculators, sounds awesome. May I ask how the energy is converted? Is it a solar system applied to the sail area? My guess would be battery power for at least 1000kw/h and also assuming these are lithium Ion. Cheers
In simplistic terms and not getting too technical.. When under sail power we feather the blades on the props so the 'drag' rotates them and therefore the shaft. The rotation of the shaft(s) uses a dynamo effect to produce electrical energy that can either be stored in the battery system or power the interior services or both. The batteries can act as a separate generator allowing the yacht to depart a marina in 'Stealth' mode.
Impressive! From the trials, is it possible to say, were there any significant problems?

XJSJohn

15,963 posts

219 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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ok, i concede that is al pretty cool !! thumbup

blueg33

35,769 posts

224 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Speculatore said:
In simplistic terms and not getting too technical.. When under sail power we feather the blades on the props so the 'drag' rotates them and therefore the shaft. The rotation of the shaft(s) uses a dynamo effect to produce electrical energy that can either be stored in the battery system or power the interior services or both. The batteries can act as a separate generator allowing the yacht to depart a marina in 'Stealth' mode.
From the day we installed the first folding prop on our (much smaller) sailing boat, I thought that it would make sense to use the prop to generate electricity. That was 38 years ago when I was 14. Looks like the idea took a while to catch on smile

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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For those interested here is a screen shot from the plasma sail control screen on the bridge. The sails and be set and furled from this screen and gives a true representation of their status. From fully furled to all 15 set is 7 minutes.



There are a number of videos on You Tube giving more information about the yacht if interested.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

96 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Speculatore said:
For those interested here is a screen shot from the plasma sail control screen on the bridge. The sails and be set and furled from this screen and gives a true representation of their status. From fully furled to all 15 set is 7 minutes.



There are a number of videos on You Tube giving more information about the yacht if interested.
I’m glad they used the traditional names for all the sails (topgallant etc) - very Patrick O’Brien!

BullyB

2,344 posts

247 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Looks fantastic
Great to see owners trying something new and not just buying another generic yacht.


Krikkit

26,512 posts

181 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Whether or not you like the design, you can't deny that's some very cool technology - running diesel-free at 15 knots is very impressive.

I seem to remember seeing speculatory articles saying it wouldn't get up any decent speed on sail alone and that it would need the diesels for propulsion in combination with sail, clearly bunk!

Guvernator

13,137 posts

165 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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The technology is very very impressive, very cool and I'm sure it's an amazing thing so hats off too all involved.

BUT as others have said, I just don't think it works from an aesthetic point. It just looks like a modern luxury motor yacht with 3 huge stonking sails plonked on top.

In fact I can't think of a way to combine sails and modern yacht without it looking a bit awkward but then I don't design yachts for a living. smile

It obviously seems to work well though so perhaps form can be considered secondary to function in this case.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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It's ace, but I agree the styling is a bit neither-fish-nor-fowl.

I don't know how one could style a colossal sailing yacht without it looking either a bit weird, or deliberately old-fashioned.

I think (posting from my grubby little hole) that I narrowly prefer Maltese Falcon in this type of thing.

10% of the price and a lot more 'humble', but I'd still prefer Charles Dunstone's Shemara.

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
It's ace, but I agree the styling is a bit neither-fish-nor-fowl.

I don't know how one could style a colossal sailing yacht without it looking either a bit weird, or deliberately old-fashioned.

I think (posting from my grubby little hole) that I narrowly prefer Maltese Falcon in this type of thing.

10% of the price and a lot more 'humble', but I'd still prefer Charles Dunstone's Shemara.
Black Pearl has the same Rig set-up as MF, just a bit bigger. One yacht that does completely mess up the whole concept is, and a say through gritted teeth, Sailing yacht 'A'. Thankfully it is formally registered as a 'Sail assisted Motor Yacht' despite what the owner wants to call it or is painted on the transom.

I like Shemara. A beautifully designed, and recently refitted classic motor yacht.

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Krikkit said:
Whether or not you like the design, you can't deny that's some very cool technology - running diesel-free at 15 knots is very impressive.

I seem to remember seeing speculatory articles saying it wouldn't get up any decent speed on sail alone and that it would need the diesels for propulsion in combination with sail, clearly bunk!
Cracked 20 knots yesterday under full sail.