super yachts 60million+
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tankplanker said:
he next generation of the America's Cup boats will be foiling mono hulls that will lift the boat out of the water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx2qG_YMrDs
While it won't be in the immediate future I'd expect it to filter down at some point in.
Yeah, I've seen them, but they weigh next to nothing, and only sail in relatively flat seas.While it won't be in the immediate future I'd expect it to filter down at some point in.
Wild Oats has them, and she goes pretty fast, and we'll probably see them appear on more boats to improve righting moment... but it's a massive step to actually get a 100ft+ cruiser/racer's hull out of the water.
Steve_D said:
Current cup boats are foiling but with a curved foil rather than the T foil shown in that vid.
Steve
I think the current boats are also 50' catamarans as well? The switch to a 75' monohull has me interested in where this is going, it has to be harder to make a large monohull foil than a catamaran? And the monohull of that length has future scope to become a more of a cruiser than a racing cat due to the additional interior space.Steve
tankplanker said:
Chris Stott said:
Foiling super yachts?
Would take some pretty amazing advances in technology, and the foils would need to be huge.
Even on IMOCA's and VOR's (c.60ft, and very light/fast), the foils don't lift the boat out of the water.
The next generation of the America's Cup boats will be foiling mono hulls that will lift the boat out of the water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx2qG_YMrDsWould take some pretty amazing advances in technology, and the foils would need to be huge.
Even on IMOCA's and VOR's (c.60ft, and very light/fast), the foils don't lift the boat out of the water.
While it won't be in the immediate future I'd expect it to filter down at some point in.
k off great big dinghysblueg33 said:
The Americas Cup foiling monhull's have an open hull design. They are basically just fk off great big dinghys
A big interior space isn't needed on an Amercia's cup boat, it is just dead weight. Even the VOR65s are hardly palatial and the crew spends weeks at a time on those. k off great big dinghysChris Stott said:
LimaDelta said:
A common misconception, 3000 gross tonnage is not a measure of weight but of internal volume. She will weigh considerably less than that.
But fantastic engineering nonetheless.
Quick googling suggests a draft of less than 4m - surprisingly little, is this right Speculatore? If so those batteries must be heavy lumps.
Yes, of course, my error.But fantastic engineering nonetheless.
Quick googling suggests a draft of less than 4m - surprisingly little, is this right Speculatore? If so those batteries must be heavy lumps.
Says 7m (of which 4m is keel) in this article...
https://beam.land/yachts/black-pearl-the-story-beh...
That's pretty shallow for something so big... a 100ft Swan has a draft of c.6m.
Speculatore said:
Chris Stott said:
LimaDelta said:
A common misconception, 3000 gross tonnage is not a measure of weight but of internal volume. She will weigh considerably less than that.
But fantastic engineering nonetheless.
Quick googling suggests a draft of less than 4m - surprisingly little, is this right Speculatore? If so those batteries must be heavy lumps.
Yes, of course, my error.But fantastic engineering nonetheless.
Quick googling suggests a draft of less than 4m - surprisingly little, is this right Speculatore? If so those batteries must be heavy lumps.
Says 7m (of which 4m is keel) in this article...
https://beam.land/yachts/black-pearl-the-story-beh...
That's pretty shallow for something so big... a 100ft Swan has a draft of c.6m.
Will she fit through the canal? I can’t remember if the Bridge of the Americas higher than the Golden Gate.
TeeRev said:
I saw Maltese Falcon absolutely creaming along downwind under full sail in a Bora in Croatia, never forget it, bloody amazing.
Having seen it working I really like the Dynarig, not quite sure about the Pearls black sails yet although they are growing on me. I love the whole concept of the yacht though, it's the future for sure.
If you watch the movie (Black Pearl) there is a great line that says.. "I have seen a yacht with black sails called the Black Pearl.. Crewed by the damned with a Captain so evil the gates of Hell spat him out"...... Having seen it working I really like the Dynarig, not quite sure about the Pearls black sails yet although they are growing on me. I love the whole concept of the yacht though, it's the future for sure.
Being nosy and a bit thick,
do the sails furl in from the center to the mast?
If so I assume that there is no real reefing and you just alter the amount of sails spread since it seems that partial spread sails would not be that good an idea.
She is beautiful and a lovely development of the rig. Even if seeing masts without head sails is playing with my brain
do the sails furl in from the center to the mast?
If so I assume that there is no real reefing and you just alter the amount of sails spread since it seems that partial spread sails would not be that good an idea.
She is beautiful and a lovely development of the rig. Even if seeing masts without head sails is playing with my brain
Speculatore said:
A few more photographs of the yacht 'playing' just off Gibraltar as we were waiting for the berth to become clear.
Dumb question, apologies, but is she fully ballasted and floating on her lines there?Is the reversed part of the bow meant to be underwater or is that roughly the designed waterline as shown in the photos?
Speculatore said:
TeeRev said:
I saw Maltese Falcon absolutely creaming along downwind under full sail in a Bora in Croatia, never forget it, bloody amazing.
Having seen it working I really like the Dynarig, not quite sure about the Pearls black sails yet although they are growing on me. I love the whole concept of the yacht though, it's the future for sure.
If you watch the movie (Black Pearl) there is a great line that says.. "I have seen a yacht with black sails called the Black Pearl.. Crewed by the damned with a Captain so evil the gates of Hell spat him out"...... Having seen it working I really like the Dynarig, not quite sure about the Pearls black sails yet although they are growing on me. I love the whole concept of the yacht though, it's the future for sure.
Phud said:
Being nosy and a bit thick,
do the sails furl in from the center to the mast?
If so I assume that there is no real reefing and you just alter the amount of sails spread since it seems that partial spread sails would not be that good an idea.
She is beautiful and a lovely development of the rig. Even if seeing masts without head sails is playing with my brain
I expect it will be in boom furling. do the sails furl in from the center to the mast?
If so I assume that there is no real reefing and you just alter the amount of sails spread since it seems that partial spread sails would not be that good an idea.
She is beautiful and a lovely development of the rig. Even if seeing masts without head sails is playing with my brain
Aesthetically, to me it looks like a motor yacht with 3 masts... not classically beautiful like a J or a Wally Cento, but surprisingly looks good with the sails up and some angle.
Phud said:
Being nosy and a bit thick,
do the sails furl in from the center to the mast?
If so I assume that there is no real reefing and you just alter the amount of sails spread since it seems that partial spread sails would not be that good an idea.
She is beautiful and a lovely development of the rig. Even if seeing masts without head sails is playing with my brain
In to the main mast. Correct regarding the reefing. Each sail is either fully stowed or fully spread. The 15 sails are controlled separately dependent on the amount of wind.do the sails furl in from the center to the mast?
If so I assume that there is no real reefing and you just alter the amount of sails spread since it seems that partial spread sails would not be that good an idea.
She is beautiful and a lovely development of the rig. Even if seeing masts without head sails is playing with my brain
Utterly ignorant when it comes to boats, my experience goes as far as the ferry to Holland however on the Black Pearl pictured... the line of windows along the water line, I assume that being equipped with sails means it'll be moving along at fairly jaunty angles more often than not and thus, said windows will be under water? On which note, are the sails used for making progress with the owners / guests aboard... given these things seem to be utter luxury, I can imagine everything being a 30deg a bit of a chore or have I completely missed the point here!
Cheers, yes though I think the aspect my head can't get round is the sailing ship / tilt / water / sipping G&T as you get along concept... not sure on the layout etc but I have images of waking up, throwing open the curtains and getting an underwater view which strikes me as a bit daunting! But again, not sure on the usage... ie does it go under sail when the owners / guests are on board for "novelty value" as it were and thus, it was part of the design brief or would sails / tilting / water past the windows and guest on board never been seen together?
Probably not making my thoughts very clear, but to be the sailing ship / jaunty angles aspect of the boast seems to contradict the ethos of such a thing, ie lavish luxury. I guess on a similar vein, the most traditional set ups... ie the huge things that float around the Med, they must be fabulous on a calm day but I assume that when underway from port to port over greater distances, thus more than likely to face adverse weather and thus get a bit lively... I assume most owners / guests wouldn't be on board?
Probably not making my thoughts very clear, but to be the sailing ship / jaunty angles aspect of the boast seems to contradict the ethos of such a thing, ie lavish luxury. I guess on a similar vein, the most traditional set ups... ie the huge things that float around the Med, they must be fabulous on a calm day but I assume that when underway from port to port over greater distances, thus more than likely to face adverse weather and thus get a bit lively... I assume most owners / guests wouldn't be on board?
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