super yachts 60million+

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Speculatore

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Wednesday 31st July 2019
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ecsrobin

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165 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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Speculatore said:
What are we laughing at?

Guessing the use of superyacht?

Burwood

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246 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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ecsrobin said:
Speculatore said:
What are we laughing at?

Guessing the use of superyacht?
biggest. isn't it the biggest sailing yacht?

Petrus1983

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162 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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Damn - my boats down in Weymouth - would have gone down just to see that!

Speculatore

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Wednesday 31st July 2019
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ecsrobin said:
Speculatore said:
What are we laughing at?

Guessing the use of superyacht?
She is a Superyacht but not the largest Superyacht in the world as the title suggests. Her only title is the largest 'Private' Sailing yacht in the world. There are quite a few more bigger than BP. She is also not owned by Oceanco, they built it.

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TheJimi

24,950 posts

243 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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I did wonder about that, the Oceanco reference. Didn’t know whether it was true or not but the idea of it being owned by the builder did make me raise an eyebrow.

...and that leads me onto a question:

Who is regarded as the best superyacht builder?

LimaDelta

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218 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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TheJimi said:
I did wonder about that, the Oceanco reference. Didn’t know whether it was true or not but the idea of it being owned by the builder did make me raise an eyebrow.

...and that leads me onto a question:

Who is regarded as the best superyacht builder?
It's debatable (like car brands), but the big German and Cloggy yards are undoubtedly at the top, while the Italians sit firmly at the bottom. I would want at least a 50% pay rise to have to suffer Italian 'engineering' again.

Davey S2

13,092 posts

254 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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In terms of Mega Yachts it has to be Lurssen no question.

rich12

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154 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Whoever posted the link for that youtube captain guy on the AWOL, thanks for that.
Never been on one of these yachts but find some of his videos really good.

If I was single, I think that job would be hard to beat.

sinbaddio

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176 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
It's debatable (like car brands), but the big German and Cloggy yards are undoubtedly at the top, while the Italians sit firmly at the bottom. I would want at least a 50% pay rise to have to suffer Italian 'engineering' again.
How do the Brits stack up? Reason for asking, I visited Pendennis in Falmouth a few years ago on business, and it seemed a mighty impressive set up - however it is the one and only time I've been in such a place.

LimaDelta

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218 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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sinbaddio said:
LimaDelta said:
It's debatable (like car brands), but the big German and Cloggy yards are undoubtedly at the top, while the Italians sit firmly at the bottom. I would want at least a 50% pay rise to have to suffer Italian 'engineering' again.
How do the Brits stack up? Reason for asking, I visited Pendennis in Falmouth a few years ago on business, and it seemed a mighty impressive set up - however it is the one and only time I've been in such a place.
I have zero first hand experience of British builds (with the exception of some Pascoe tenders) so I can't really say.

Davey S2

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254 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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rich12 said:
Whoever posted the link for that youtube captain guy on the AWOL, thanks for that.
Never been on one of these yachts but find some of his videos really good.

If I was single, I think that job would be hard to beat.
Have a look at Jared Watney as well. He's a deckhand but has been on a few nice boats and done some very good videos.

He's currently on Arience a 200ft Abeking & Rasmussen and there are some great vids on that.



Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
sinbaddio said:
LimaDelta said:
It's debatable (like car brands), but the big German and Cloggy yards are undoubtedly at the top, while the Italians sit firmly at the bottom. I would want at least a 50% pay rise to have to suffer Italian 'engineering' again.
How do the Brits stack up? Reason for asking, I visited Pendennis in Falmouth a few years ago on business, and it seemed a mighty impressive set up - however it is the one and only time I've been in such a place.
I have zero first hand experience of British builds (with the exception of some Pascoe tenders) so I can't really say.
The Superyacht industry in NZ, once thriving is now all but dead due to the currency strength. Great refit work and yacht tech though. Yachting Developments builds insane Sportfishers which are technically Super Yachts. If you want to fish anywhere in the world you need one of these beasts. All Carbon and about 40M in length



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LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Burwood said:
The Superyacht industry in NZ, once thriving is now all but dead due to the currency strength. Great refit work and yacht tech though. Yachting Developments builds insane Sportfishers which are technically Super Yachts. If you want to fish anywhere in the world you need one of these beasts. All Carbon and about 40M in length



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C'mon, 40m? Saying that is 'technically' a Superyacht is like claiming a BMW M5 is 'technically' a Supercar.

I have spent some time in NZ shupyards*, and while they were good for some things, it was obvious that they had never dealt with anything on our scale before.

* That was a genuine typo, but I thought given the context I'd leave it uncorrected. smile

Condi

17,158 posts

171 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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rich12 said:
Whoever posted the link for that youtube captain guy on the AWOL, thanks for that.
Never been on one of these yachts but find some of his videos really good.

If I was single, I think that job would be hard to beat.
I think its one of those jobs which looks great from the outside, or to do for a couple of years, but is it something you would want to do for a long time? Same with ski instructor, sailing instructor, holiday reps etc. Looks like their having a lot of fun, then you realise they're 32, living in a dorm, get paid very little and everything they do get paid goes on booze and funding a lifestyle in an expensive place. Fine if you're 22, not so good at 32! Although obviously depends what you want out of life.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
Burwood said:
The Superyacht industry in NZ, once thriving is now all but dead due to the currency strength. Great refit work and yacht tech though. Yachting Developments builds insane Sportfishers which are technically Super Yachts. If you want to fish anywhere in the world you need one of these beasts. All Carbon and about 40M in length



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C'mon, 40m? Saying that is 'technically' a Superyacht is like claiming a BMW M5 is 'technically' a Supercar.

I have spent some time in NZ shupyards*, and while they were good for some things, it was obvious that they had never dealt with anything on our scale before.

* That was a genuine typo, but I thought given the context I'd leave it uncorrected. smile
Kokomo is 192ft (sailing Yacht) which is the biggest out of any shipyard. Sure it's not 300ft. They don't have the facilities to build such. The fishing yacht post is merely showing off what is the best of the best in its class. You can't practically make them any bigger. smile

rich12

3,462 posts

154 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Condi said:
I think its one of those jobs which looks great from the outside, or to do for a couple of years, but is it something you would want to do for a long time? Same with ski instructor, sailing instructor, holiday reps etc. Looks like their having a lot of fun, then you realise they're 32, living in a dorm, get paid very little and everything they do get paid goes on booze and funding a lifestyle in an expensive place. Fine if you're 22, not so good at 32! Although obviously depends what you want out of life.
It beats my job.

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Condi said:
I think its one of those jobs which looks great from the outside, or to do for a couple of years, but is it something you would want to do for a long time? Same with ski instructor, sailing instructor, holiday reps etc. Looks like their having a lot of fun, then you realise they're 32, living in a dorm, get paid very little and everything they do get paid goes on booze and funding a lifestyle in an expensive place. Fine if you're 22, not so good at 32! Although obviously depends what you want out of life.
Even a junior deckhand or stew will be taking home mid to high 30k excluding tips. Most seniors/HODs comfortably on five-figures a month. I don't know what you earn Condi, but a bit disingenuous to claim that crew 'get paid very little'. Especially (as is quickly becoming the norm through the industry) for only working 6 months of the year. Even without all the travel perks and benefits it is a pretty good position to be in, but obviously not for everyone.

Bonefish Blues

26,620 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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Burwood said:
The Superyacht industry in NZ, once thriving is now all but dead due to the currency strength. Great refit work and yacht tech though. Yachting Developments builds insane Sportfishers which are technically Super Yachts. If you want to fish anywhere in the world you need one of these beasts. All Carbon and about 40M in length



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Jeez that's a thing.

Krikkit

26,513 posts

181 months

Thursday 1st August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
Condi said:
I think its one of those jobs which looks great from the outside, or to do for a couple of years, but is it something you would want to do for a long time? Same with ski instructor, sailing instructor, holiday reps etc. Looks like their having a lot of fun, then you realise they're 32, living in a dorm, get paid very little and everything they do get paid goes on booze and funding a lifestyle in an expensive place. Fine if you're 22, not so good at 32! Although obviously depends what you want out of life.
Even a junior deckhand or stew will be taking home mid to high 30k excluding tips. Most seniors/HODs comfortably on five-figures a month. I don't know what you earn Condi, but a bit disingenuous to claim that crew 'get paid very little'. Especially (as is quickly becoming the norm through the industry) for only working 6 months of the year. Even without all the travel perks and benefits it is a pretty good position to be in, but obviously not for everyone.
I think he was more focussing on the ski/sailing/holiday type role more than ship's crew by that point - another aspect remains the same though, in that you have to be prepared to spend 6 months of the year living in fairly tight quarters, unsociable hours etc. Not everyone can do that.