super yachts 60million+

[Speculatore]

RosscoPCole said:

Was in Weymouth and saw Black Pearl moored in the bay. Looked very impressive. Can't believe that the masts are made from carbon fibre.

Made in Portchester at Magma Structures. Same as 'Sail assisted Motor yacht 'A'

[DeltonaS]

Speculatore said:

RosscoPCole said:

Was in Weymouth and saw Black Pearl moored in the bay. Looked very impressive. Can't believe that the masts are made from carbon fibre.

Made in Portchester at Magma Structures. Same as 'Sail assisted Motor yacht 'A'

Some background footage of the Black Pearl project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&...

[blueg33]

Yas from a long way off



And the much smaller Volpini 2 a bit closer.

[AstonZagato]

DeltonaS said:

Some background footage of the Black Pearl project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&...

I love Black Pearl. I'd take it over any other yacht out there at the moment (not that any of them are in my reach...).

Speculatore,
Does it have a maximum heel angle on a beam reach (not a sailor so excuse duff terminology)? Does being heeled over cause any technological problems (plumbing, cooking, sleeping)? (No worries if you can't say)

[Speculatore]

AstonZagato said:

DeltonaS said:

Some background footage of the Black Pearl project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&...

I love Black Pearl. I'd take it over any other yacht out there at the moment (not that any of them are in my reach...).

Speculatore,
Does it have a maximum heel angle on a beam reach (not a sailor so excuse duff terminology)? Does being heeled over cause any technological problems (plumbing, cooking, sleeping)? (No worries if you can't say)

Designed from start up as a sailing yacht so everything designed to operate when under sail and we have a 7.4mtr fixed keel which helps. In normal sailing conditions we try to max at 10 - 15% heel which is around the 15 - 20 knots mark. As with any sailing yacht care must be taken when walking around and when meals are being prepared/served. Our big fun advantage over Maltese Falcon is that we have a fully functional fly bridge where most of the sailing is done from. We can either rotate the 1, 2 or all 3 masts or reef some of the sails to keep her 'almost' upright.

[DeltonaS]

AstonZagato said:

DeltonaS said:

Some background footage of the Black Pearl project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&...

I love Black Pearl. I'd take it over any other yacht out there at the moment (not that any of them are in my reach...).

Speculatore,
Does it have a maximum heel angle on a beam reach (not a sailor so excuse duff terminology)? Does being heeled over cause any technological problems (plumbing, cooking, sleeping)? (No worries if you can't say)

Any sailing yacht has a maximum heel angle, aka it can tip over if it's limiteds are reached.

Black Pearl is a 106m ship made of steel with an aluminium top and carbon fibre mast, keel is 80% lead which tells you something.

It doesn't have the latest trends in haul technology (carbon fibre haul, winglet's, moveable ballast, reduced waterline beam), but that's not the point. It's not a Volvo Ocean race nor America's Cup ship. It's a super yacht. It does however have the DynaRig freestanding rotating masts.

On a ship like Black Pearl you want stability, comfort and cruising speed. The haul length combined with the chosen material mix and the DynaRig masts means speed, usability and stability are guaranteed.

[J3JCV]

LimaDelta said:

sinbaddio said:

LimaDelta said:

It's debatable (like car brands), but the big German and Cloggy yards are undoubtedly at the top, while the Italians sit firmly at the bottom. I would want at least a 50% pay rise to have to suffer Italian 'engineering' again.

How do the Brits stack up? Reason for asking, I visited Pendennis in Falmouth a few years ago on business, and it seemed a mighty impressive set up - however it is the one and only time I've been in such a place.

I have zero first hand experience of British builds (with the exception of some Pascoe tenders) so I can't really say.

Biased view I guess as I was 11 years at Pendennis, but they are really good. One of the most important aspects I think is their constant striving to be better at what they do. General quality and engineering is up there with the Dutch. I gained this view as I spent time on hundreds of boats looking for refit, so you see the warts and all. Italian stuff is in a different league, but they often had the best wow factor when entering the saloon - which seems to tick the biggest box for many many clients, engine rooms not so much!

I now am part of a tender building firm (amongst other boats) which is a great side of the industry.

[LimaDelta]

J3JCV said:

Italian stuff is in a different league, but they often had the best wow factor when entering the saloon - which seems to tick the biggest box for many many clients, engine rooms not so much!

That's when you want the best of both worlds. Northern European ship builder and an Italian interior designer. But don't forget, the 'engineering' aspect extends far further than just the engine room.

[Phud]

J3JCV said:

I now am part of a tender building firm (amongst other boats) which is a great side of the industry.

A very simplistic understatement as to what you build and hoon around on!!!!

[Bonefish Blues]

LimaDelta said:

J3JCV said:

Italian stuff is in a different league, but they often had the best wow factor when entering the saloon - which seems to tick the biggest box for many many clients, engine rooms not so much!

That's when you want the best of both worlds. Northern European ship builder and an Italian interior designer. But don't forget, the 'engineering' aspect extends far further than just the engine room.

But I guess if you spend a week a year on it, perhaps 2-3 tops, then superficial attraction attracts, iyswim.

Does that mean that the new big Riva I posted last week's a bag o'bolts that'll fall to bits? And more importantly, please don't tell me the Riva Classics were poorly done, were they, because that would be a bit much to bear?

[MDMA .]

I Dynasty outside our hotel at the moment in Elounda -



Poor picture as I only have my phone with me.

Edited by MDMA . on Sunday 4th August 10:15

[Ben Jk]

Ventum Maris in Cannes. Not sure if quite £60m but impressive all the same.

[RSVR101]

Not sure of the Value on this one but it looks so much more classy than the other big white blingy boats I’ve seen here...

I think it’s called air, but too far out to be sure of what it says... looks lovely, Helicopter landed on it last night.

Just off the coast of the Pelopennese not far from Pylos.

Edited by RSVR101 on Wednesday 7th August 08:33

Edited by RSVR101 on Wednesday 7th August 08:35

[J3JCV]

Phud said:

J3JCV said:

I now am part of a tender building firm (amongst other boats) which is a great side of the industry.

A very simplistic understatement as to what you build and hoon around on!!!!

Thanks!

Yep, the tenders are fast and great to drive - but this is a fun day at work too! Someone has to test them hard......

[Phud]

J3JCV said:

Thanks!

Yep, the tenders are fast and great to drive - but this is a fun day at work too! Someone has to test them hard......

Will somebody not think about the fraggles!!!!!!!!!

[AstonZagato]

J3JCV said:

Thanks!

Yep, the tenders are fast and great to drive - but this is a fun day at work too! Someone has to test them hard......

This led me down a little Cockwells-shaped rabbit hole.

I've never owned a boat. I live nowhere near anywhere I could use a powerful boat. I now want one though.

[z4RRSchris]

TheJimi said:

I did wonder about that, the Oceanco reference. Didn’t know whether it was true or not but the idea of it being owned by the builder did make me raise an eyebrow.

...and that leads me onto a question:

Who is regarded as the best superyacht builder?

dads mate owns oceanco, he has a turkish plastic boat.

[Speculatore]

z4RRSchris said:

TheJimi said:

I did wonder about that, the Oceanco reference. Didn’t know whether it was true or not but the idea of it being owned by the builder did make me raise an eyebrow.

...and that leads me onto a question:

Who is regarded as the best superyacht builder?

dads mate owns oceanco, he has a turkish plastic boat.

SY Black Pearl was built by Oceanco under project Y712. They certainly do not own it...

[NickCQ]

z4RRSchris said:

dads mate owns oceanco, he has a turkish plastic boat.

your dad should tell his mate that he's fraudulently passing himself off as a doctor, according to Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Al_Barwani

[Junior Bianno]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9690550/10-million-s...

£10 million eh? I would literally take 2