super yachts 60million+

[MarcelM6]

robwilk said:

Like the Calypso ?

That's the one. Had a fantastically detailed model when I was a child.

[thegreenhell]

I was thinking of the Belafonte.

[Davey S2]

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

[blue_haddock]

I'm on holiday in Italy and have just come to Trieste, as we approached a huge yacht was anchored offshore.

I think it's super yacht A based on a bit of googling.

[Petrus1983]

blue_haddock said:

I'm on holiday in Italy and have just come to Trieste, as we approached a huge yacht was anchored offshore.

I think it's super yacht A based on a bit of googling.

It’s certainly Sailing Yacht A - but its owner is Andrey Melnichenkonot who I thought was sanctioned. I thought the super yachts of such people were in Turkey. Or did he sell it?

[dudleybloke]

I think he's claiming its owned by a consortium of some type now.

[Wills2]

Petrus1983 said:

blue_haddock said:

I'm on holiday in Italy and have just come to Trieste, as we approached a huge yacht was anchored offshore.

I think it's super yacht A based on a bit of googling.

It’s certainly Sailing Yacht A - but its owner is Andrey Melnichenkonot who I thought was sanctioned. I thought the super yachts of such people were in Turkey. Or did he sell it?

It was seized some time ago and is in the hands of the Italian authorities.

[thegreenhell]

It was in dry dock in Trieste when it was arrested, and has been moved out of the way so it's not taking up valuable space in the yard and incurring ongoing storage fees. Apparently the Italian government are currently paying the bills to keep it afloat.

[blue_haddock]

Petrus1983 said:

It’s certainly Sailing Yacht A - but its owner is Andrey Melnichenkonot who I thought was sanctioned. I thought the super yachts of such people were in Turkey. Or did he sell it?

It certainly looked impressive sat out in the bay.

[blue_haddock]

A pic from a better angle

[Petrus1983]

thegreenhell said:

It was in dry dock in Trieste when it was arrested, and has been moved out of the way so it's not taking up valuable space in the yard and incurring ongoing storage fees. Apparently the Italian government are currently paying the bills to keep it afloat.

Nice info from yourself and Wills. Bet they didn’t know what they were getting into - best part of €50m a year to sort someone else’s problem.

[Gargamel]

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

I didn’t know I could.

Are there any others out there I could come forward and claim ownership of? Just let me know.

[Badda]

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

Pretty sure we saw that in Croatia last summer.

[waremark]

Badda said:

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

Pretty sure we saw that in Croatia last summer.

Unlikely 'cause it has been in Antigua since before the Ukraine invasion. Strangely, lawyers for the sanctioned Russian who was believed to have owned it (and another even more valuable yacht) have said it never belonged to him and he had just chartered it several times. I wonder what he stands to gain by denying ownership of a yacht for which he probably paid more than $100m.

[waremark]

blue_haddock said:

I'm on holiday in Italy and have just come to Trieste, as we approached a huge yacht was anchored offshore.

I think it's super yacht A based on a bit of googling.

On this one also the reputed sanctioned Russian owner has (or his representatives have on his behalf) denied ownership.

This is sailing yacht A, reputed to have cost over half a billion dollars. The same man was thought to own motor yacht A which is currently off the UAE, and therefore has not been arrested.

[thegreenhell]

waremark said:

Unlikely 'cause it has been in Antigua since before the Ukraine invasion. Strangely, lawyers for the sanctioned Russian who was believed to have owned it (and another even more valuable yacht) have said it never belonged to him and he had just chartered it several times. I wonder what he stands to gain by denying ownership of a yacht for which he probably paid more than $100m.

Apart from the fact that $100m is probably a tiny drop in his fortune, he's possibly just avoiding some very large bills for a yacht he probably wouldn't be getting back in the foreseeable future. At some point it makes more sense to just write off that $100m asset than to throw a few more tens of million at it, especially if he has other funds and assets frozen. As a sanctioned person he couldn't legally pay any debts against the boat now anyway, and couldn't use or sell it, so it's an easy out to simply disown it.

[Badda]

waremark said:

Unlikely 'cause it has been in Antigua since before the Ukraine invasion. Strangely, lawyers for the sanctioned Russian who was believed to have owned it (and another even more valuable yacht) have said it never belonged to him and he had just chartered it several times. I wonder what he stands to gain by denying ownership of a yacht for which he probably paid more than $100m.

Ah ok, thanks.

[LimaDelta]

thegreenhell said:

waremark said:

Unlikely 'cause it has been in Antigua since before the Ukraine invasion. Strangely, lawyers for the sanctioned Russian who was believed to have owned it (and another even more valuable yacht) have said it never belonged to him and he had just chartered it several times. I wonder what he stands to gain by denying ownership of a yacht for which he probably paid more than $100m.

Apart from the fact that $100m is probably a tiny drop in his fortune, he's possibly just avoiding some very large bills for a yacht he probably wouldn't be getting back in the foreseeable future. At some point it makes more sense to just write off that $100m asset than to throw a few more tens of million at it, especially if he has other funds and assets frozen. As a sanctioned person he couldn't legally pay any debts against the boat now anyway, and couldn't use or sell it, so it's an easy out to simply disown it.

Not to mention none of these yachts are actually owned by the 'owner', IYKWIM. i.e the person using it and paying ultimately paying the bills will not be named on any of the paperwork, ever.

[SpeckledJim]

Gargamel said:

Davey S2 said:

The auction of Alfa Nero has apparently now been approved after nobody came forward to claim ownership.

I didn’t know I could.

Are there any others out there I could come forward and claim ownership of? Just let me know.

I wouldn’t want one for free. I’d be destitute by lunchtime.

[21st Century Man]

Can anyone point me in the direction of an up to date registry? I've heard a rumour that my mum's old Benetti has been scrapped. An internet search brings it up a few times, but the web pages might be a few years old.

https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/the-super...

Thanks.