Amazingly cool and interesting plane footage

[Eric Mc]

I think the experience was enough to show that it wasn't a great idea. They are hard enough to land without the runway pitching up and down and generally wobbling about.

[Bonefish Blues]

Eric Mc said:

I think the experience was enough to show that it wasn't a great idea. They are hard enough to land without the runway pitching up and down and generally wobbling about.

Wasn't it more that the landing guide vehicles kept driving into the ocean

[Eric Mc]

They lost so many of them .

[steveo3002]

https://youtu.be/K1Lnj6PQ89Y

b17 low pass

[Eric Mc]

From the film "The War Lover". I'm sure I spotted a C-97 on the field (a post war aircraft).

[Ayahuasca]

Bonefish Blues said:

Eric Mc said:

I think the experience was enough to show that it wasn't a great idea. They are hard enough to land without the runway pitching up and down and generally wobbling about.

Wasn't it more that the landing guide vehicles kept driving into the ocean

Compared to say a Tomcat landing the U2 comes in with very little flare, and looks in danger of catching the wire with its forward landing gear, which would not be ideal.

[Eric Mc]

How not to land a Hercules -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM3bvRZRXLw

[tog]

Eric Mc said:

How not to land a Hercules -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM3bvRZRXLw

Is that Chilean? Snow must make it tricky.

I thought it would be this way:

https://youtu.be/fSFjhWw4DNo?t=85

Turns out there are several ways not to do it.

[Speed 3]

Eric Mc said:

How not to land a Hercules -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM3bvRZRXLw

That looks a pretty poorly reviewed/prepped strip. I know conditions change pretty quickly in the Antarctic but that isn't an unmanned station with no kit.

[FourWheelDrift]

That's a Chilean Hercules and they lost another one yesterday - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-507...

[MartG]

Speed 3 said:

Eric Mc said:

How not to land a Hercules -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM3bvRZRXLw

That looks a pretty poorly reviewed/prepped strip. I know conditions change pretty quickly in the Antarctic but that isn't an unmanned station with no kit.

Seems to be a definite lack of visual cues as to height above the runway

[Zirconia]

Don't normally go to youtube but this popped up on twitter. Chuck Yeagers NF104A incident has been released by Edwards Airforce archives (?).
https://theaviationist.com/2019/12/11/newly-releas...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=359&am...

[Eric Mc]

We get to see what REALLY happened at long last. Not quite like in "The Right Stuff" then.

[MartG]

Comparison between B52 and Vulcan takeoff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOgsgnZ8dw&fe...

[Zirconia]

Eric Mc said:

We get to see what REALLY happened at long last. Not quite like in "The Right Stuff" then.

I would have to dig back through the book. I have the film but know the issues.

[tdm34]

MartG said:

Comparison between B52 and Vulcan takeoff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOgsgnZ8dw&fe...

USAF nil vs RAF one

[Bonefish Blues]

tdm34 said:

MartG said:

Comparison between B52 and Vulcan takeoff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOgsgnZ8dw&fe...

USAF nil vs RAF one

Sportscar Vs transit, shirley?

[yellowjack]

Bonefish Blues said:

tdm34 said:

MartG said:

Comparison between B52 and Vulcan takeoff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOgsgnZ8dw&fe...

USAF nil vs RAF one

Sportscar Vs transit, shirley?

Tortoise and Hare perhaps. I mean, the Vulcan is long since grounded, and even when that video was shot in 1989 it was pretty much reduced to a display aircraft. Whereas the tortoise of the piece, the B-52, is still plodding along in front line service with an out-of-service date well into the future. Don't get me wrong, I'd far prefer to watch a Vulcan display over a B-52, but for longevity and actual use in anger, the B-52 wins hands down.

[Dr Jekyll]

yellowjack said:

Tortoise and Hare perhaps. I mean, the Vulcan is long since grounded, and even when that video was shot in 1989 it was pretty much reduced to a display aircraft. Whereas the tortoise of the piece, the B-52, is still plodding along in front line service with an out-of-service date well into the future. Don't get me wrong, I'd far prefer to watch a Vulcan display over a B-52, but for longevity and actual use in anger, the B-52 wins hands down.

Not quite a fair comparison though.

Far more B52s were made in the first place, so finding some not worn out and enough spares isn't an issue. The other issue was he Vulcan was that it wasn't really up to penetrating modern defences after the mid 70s, the B52 would probably be even less survivable but the US have the resources to eliminate those defences. If they'd been available Vulcans or Victor bombers could have done useful work in the Gulf wars.

[Eric Mc]

Zirconia said:

I would have to dig back through the book. I have the film but know the issues.

I was thinking more of how the incident is depicted in the film. The film, whilst very enjoyable and one of my favourites, is very misleading in many areas.