Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

[Eric Mc]

MartG said:

Eric Mc said:

Would a Bucc be able to operate off the new carrier? (if they strung an arrestor wire across it of course).

They'd have to saw off the ski-jump and fit some catapults first - it's bigger than the old Ark so no other reasons why not

I was musing last night that they could even get away with no catapult if they devised some sort of rocket assist take off system - such as the ZEL system tested in the US in the 1950s.



I'm sure the Bucc would be beefy enough to withstand the Gs.

[MartG]

Well some versions of the Bucc did have a BS 605 rocket fitted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Siddeley_605

[Ayahuasca]

But would the deck be beefy enough to withstand the rocket's heat?

[MartG]

Ayahuasca said:

But would the deck be beefy enough to withstand the rocket's heat?

It's designed to take the heat of an F-35B landing vertically, so I guess that would be a yes

[Ayahuasca]

MartG said:

Ayahuasca said:

But would the deck be beefy enough to withstand the rocket's heat?

It's designed to take the heat of an F-35B landing vertically, so I guess that would be a yes
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Sure, and I seem to recall that there was an issue with the F35 melting the deck...

[FourWheelDrift]

Ayahuasca said:

Sure, and I seem to recall that there was an issue with the F35 melting the deck...

It has a special new deck coating for that - https://www.ddcoatings.co.uk/1275/new-deck-coating...

[Ayahuasca]

Is the UK's Future Combat Air System (FUCAS) going to include a navalised version that can operate from the QE class carriers?

... this FUCA is a Taranis.

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 11th December 14:22

[JuniorD]

greghm said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Low level contrail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPq61oTYOs

You mean Chemtrail !!!

I like the comment on that video: "Chemtrails killed off the dinosaurs but the illuminati paid the C.I.A. to cover it all up."

[DiscoColin]

Ayahuasca said:

MartG said:

Ayahuasca said:

But would the deck be beefy enough to withstand the rocket's heat?

It's designed to take the heat of an F-35B landing vertically, so I guess that would be a yes
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Sure, and I seem to recall that there was an issue with the F35 melting the deck...

If you have been reading the same stuff as I have over the years, it was the downward exhaust of the V22 Ospreys melting (or more accurately causing buckling due to thermal deformation) the decks of US Marine Amphibious Assault Ships when they were introduced, which in turn was reported as a problem which would be even worse with the F35. This was quite a few years ago now and as far as I am aware they sorted it out in the end (the same ships have had test operations with the F35 over the last year or two and have been routinely operating Osprey for some time now).

Edited by DiscoColin on Monday 11th December 16:07

[DiscoColin]

Ayahuasca said:

Is the UK's Future Combat Air System (FUCAS) going to include a navalised version that can operate from the QE class carriers?

Obviously it is too early to say for sure, but if I were a gambling man I would plumb for a no to that (with costs sited as the reason). With no catapults or arrestors on the ships, a STOVL variant would be called for and that would increase cost, weight and complexity significantly. I can only see it happening if the whole thing were a shared project with Italy, Spain and/or Japan to spread the costs and increase the build quantity (those being the only countries with ships that would call for the capability with whom we would be likely to share the technology).

[Fastdruid]

I thought this was pretty cool. Size comparison of fighter jets.

http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/wp-content/uploa...
(link rather than inline due to the size of the thing)

[Ayahuasca]

Fastdruid said:

I thought this was pretty cool. Size comparison of fighter jets.

http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/wp-content/uploa...
(link rather than inline due to the size of the thing)

I enjoyed that thanks.

The TU128 Fiddler was a big beast. Why did it need to be so long?

[Fastdruid]

Ayahuasca said:

Fastdruid said:

I thought this was pretty cool. Size comparison of fighter jets.

http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/wp-content/uploa...
(link rather than inline due to the size of the thing)

I enjoyed that thanks.

The TU128 Fiddler was a big beast. Why did it need to be so long?

Range. To be able to cover a 5000Km air front.

While it was an interceptor it was not an agile aircraft. It was intended to combat only NATO bombers like the B-52, not engage in dogfights with smaller aircraft.

[irocfan]

Ayahuasca said:

Is the UK's Future Combat Air System (FUCAS) going to include a navalised version that can operate from the QE class carriers?

... this FUCA is a Taranis.

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 11th December 14:22

So glad to see I'm not the only one to have a giggle over that

[greghm]

Fastdruid said:

I thought this was pretty cool. Size comparison of fighter jets.

http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/wp-content/uploa...
(link rather than inline due to the size of the thing)

Nice subject. I was reminded when I visited the American Airpower Museum on Long Island how big is an A-Warthog as they have this one as well as a B-25... they are the same size.

[MartG]

irocfan said:

Ayahuasca said:

Is the UK's Future Combat Air System (FUCAS) going to include a navalised version that can operate from the QE class carriers?

... this FUCA is a Taranis.

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 11th December 14:22

So glad to see I'm not the only one to have a giggle over that

Really needs the word 'Killer' inserted in there somewhere

[MartG]

A pair of Argentinian A-4 Skyhawks photographed from HMS Coventry during the attack which sank her



Photographer unknown

Trivia - Coventry's Captain at the time is Miranda Hart's dad

[vx220]

Fastdruid said:

I thought this was pretty cool. Size comparison of fighter jets.

http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/wp-content/uploa...
(link rather than inline due to the size of the thing)

Anyone noticed the guy showing scale appears to be saluting North American and has been speared by the YF107 Ultra Sabre?

[Eric Mc]

Not sure they are really to scale. The F-80 is bigger in the picture than the F-94 immediately below it. In reality, the F-94 was a bit bigger because it was essentially an F-80 with added radar and radar operator.

Am I going blind or are the Spitfire, Hurricane, Tempest and Typhoon missing?

[Dr Jekyll]

Eric Mc said:

Not sure they are really to scale. The F-80 is bigger in the picture than the F-94 immediately below it. In reality, the F-94 was a bit bigger because it was essentially an F-80 with added radar and radar operator.

Am I going blind or are the Spitfire, Hurricane, Tempest and Typhoon missing?

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