Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)
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generationx said:
Ayahuasca said:
What a beautiful aircraftThat one is N8083H at the TWA Hotel https://www.twahotel.com/
yellowjack said:
321freeflow said:
think our Boss spent some time with US forces. He had crew names stencilled below the cockpit rail - they survived 
I've got lots of pics of my time on NASU/Buccs, Ark/B Flight, HQ Lossie - must dig them out sometime.
I do have one of me mucking about as the "door gunner" on a Huey, but it was firmly on the ground at the time. I've no idea where all my photos are now though, as we moved to a smaller house in May and many things are still secreted away in places where you'd not expect to find them...
Not sure this is a cool pic, but I'd never heard of this aicraft, and didn't know where else to post it... an He177 'reviewed' in Flight magazine in mid-1945. Uglier than an ugly thing, indeed.
At first i thought there was a silly sub-editing mistake on the engine count, but a closer read shows there were two V12s per prop!
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At first i thought there was a silly sub-editing mistake on the engine count, but a closer read shows there were two V12s per prop!
Continues at: https://i.redd.it/cff50372b8g31.jpg
A bit of a disaster of a design. The Germans were very slow to develop a four engined bomber because the German Air Ministry generally held the view that dive bombers and twin engined medium bombers would be enough to fulfill their requirements. When they did get around to specifying a four engined design, they stipulated that it had to be capable of dive bombing, something which a four engined design would not normally be designed to do. It was because of the dive bombing requirement, it was decided to couple two engines to one propeller.
The 177 did enter service in a number of versions but had a poor reputation for reliability. In the end, Heinkel tried a more conventional layout in the 277, but it was never put into production -
The 177 did enter service in a number of versions but had a poor reputation for reliability. In the end, Heinkel tried a more conventional layout in the 277, but it was never put into production -
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The 177 did enter service in a number of versions but had a poor reputation for reliability. In the end, Heinkel tried a more conventional layout in the 277, but it was never put into production -
I wonder if any of these survived. The Smithsonian had all sorts of planes after the war such as a Ju 488- I remember period pics of it disassembled. No idea what stuff survives in their warehouses.
The 177 did enter service in a number of versions but had a poor reputation for reliability. In the end, Heinkel tried a more conventional layout in the 277, but it was never put into production -
I wonder if any of these survived. The Smithsonian had all sorts of planes after the war such as a Ju 488- I remember period pics of it disassembled. No idea what stuff survives in their warehouses.
Dive bombing worked well in certain circumstances - especially if there was little or no decent fighter opposition around and about.
The problem with the 177 is that it was just too big to be able to dive bomb. The big issue with a dive bomber is how it deals with the structural forces that act on the aircraft during the pull out. The successful dive bombers of World War 2 such as the Ju87 a and the Douglas Dauntless, dived straight down pretty much vertically. They endured quite high G loads on pulling out. A plane like the 177 could not sustain those types of stresses and at best any dive bombing it might have done would have been in a fairly shallow descent - certainly not a 90 degree dive.
The problem with the 177 is that it was just too big to be able to dive bomb. The big issue with a dive bomber is how it deals with the structural forces that act on the aircraft during the pull out. The successful dive bombers of World War 2 such as the Ju87 a and the Douglas Dauntless, dived straight down pretty much vertically. They endured quite high G loads on pulling out. A plane like the 177 could not sustain those types of stresses and at best any dive bombing it might have done would have been in a fairly shallow descent - certainly not a 90 degree dive.
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