Do 17 found buried in sandbank
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Just had a look in my old copy of "Aircraft of the fighting powers" at more variations of the Dornier, the one type with big dive brakes at the rear for example it's quite unusual for a twin engined bomber to be put into operation as a dive bomber.
Here's a good photo of them opening on test.
Here's a good photo of them opening on test.
I wouldn't describe the flipping over of the aircraft on landing as a "ground loop". A ground loop usually means when the rear end of the aircraft swings around so that the aeroplane ends up facing the wrong way around - nut remains the right way up. This is a potential problem with all tailwheel aircraft and often occurs in crosswind situations.
IanMorewood said:
Looks fairly intact from the sonar image although its on its back. Could make an interesting restoration project.
I think it is substantially there and a full restoration eminently do-able, given enough time and money. A number of aircraft have already been recovered from the sea bed and restored. 
They are doing the same type of "archaeological" restoration on their F6F Hellcat. I spoke to the team leader of the project when I was at the Yeovilton Air Day a month or so ago.
Itr would be great to see a fully restored Do17/215/217 in a museum. It is a type almost forgotten now. I think the movie Battle of Britain gives the impression that the only bomber used by the Germans was the He111. Obviously, when the film was made in 1968, the only "German" bomber available was the Spanish CASA 211 derivative of the He111 so that is what they used. The Germans also used the Do17/215 and the Junkers Ju88 in that period.
Itr would be great to see a fully restored Do17/215/217 in a museum. It is a type almost forgotten now. I think the movie Battle of Britain gives the impression that the only bomber used by the Germans was the He111. Obviously, when the film was made in 1968, the only "German" bomber available was the Spanish CASA 211 derivative of the He111 so that is what they used. The Germans also used the Do17/215 and the Junkers Ju88 in that period.
williamp said:
stuttgartmetal said:
RIP Reinhardt and Huhn.
Lets not forget we are all human.
Yes indeed. RIP.Lets not forget we are all human.
But...being shot down by a Defiant????
They probably assumed it was a Hurricane and didn't realise they were going to be attacked from a rearward or sideways facing gun turret.
Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 3rd September 12:25
stuttgartmetal said:
RIP Reinhardt and Huhn.
Lets not forget we are all human.
Yes, after all it is an aircraft in which people died, but I think that raising and restoring/displaying it would be an excelent memorial to everyone affected by these aircraft, on both sides. It would be another way of making the BoB more 'real' as more and more people who were directly involved are no longer alive.Lets not forget we are all human.
Eric Mc said:
williamp said:
stuttgartmetal said:
RIP Reinhardt and Huhn.
Lets not forget we are all human.
Yes indeed. RIP.Lets not forget we are all human.
But...being shot down by a Defiant????
They probably assumed it was a Hurricane and didn't realise they were going to be attacked from a rearward or sideways facing gun turret.
Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 3rd September 12:25
The Hypno-Toad said:
Eric Mc said:
williamp said:
stuttgartmetal said:
RIP Reinhardt and Huhn.
Lets not forget we are all human.
Yes indeed. RIP.Lets not forget we are all human.
But...being shot down by a Defiant????
They probably assumed it was a Hurricane and didn't realise they were going to be attacked from a rearward or sideways facing gun turret.
Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 3rd September 12:25
Eric Mc said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Eric Mc said:
williamp said:
stuttgartmetal said:
RIP Reinhardt and Huhn.
Lets not forget we are all human.
Yes indeed. RIP.Lets not forget we are all human.
But...being shot down by a Defiant????
They probably assumed it was a Hurricane and didn't realise they were going to be attacked from a rearward or sideways facing gun turret.
Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 3rd September 12:25
Eric Mc said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Eric Mc said:
williamp said:
stuttgartmetal said:
RIP Reinhardt and Huhn.
Lets not forget we are all human.
Yes indeed. RIP.Lets not forget we are all human.
But...being shot down by a Defiant????
They probably assumed it was a Hurricane and didn't realise they were going to be attacked from a rearward or sideways facing gun turret.
Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 3rd September 12:25
"On 20 September 1939, a German Messerschmitt Bf 109 was shot down by Battle gunner Sgt. F. Letchard during a patrol near Aachen, marking the RAF's first aerial victory of the war."
"cough"
Anyway, sorry Eric, just trying to be droll and obviously failing. Just thought it was well known that the Battle was possibly the worst hunk of junk to fly in WWII.
However the attacks on the Albert Canal and the bravery displayed really does bring a lump to the throat. Some commentators have compared it to an flying Charge Of The Light Brigade.
dr_gn said:
stuttgartmetal said:
RIP Reinhardt and Huhn.
Lets not forget we are all human.
Yes, after all it is an aircraft in which people died, but I think that raising and restoring/displaying it would be an excelent memorial to everyone affected by these aircraft, on both sides. It would be another way of making the BoB more 'real' as more and more people who were directly involved are no longer alive.Lets not forget we are all human.
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