Pistonheads whisky cask

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Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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krallicious said:
I have permission. She just rolled her eyes when I said I have the possibloty of buying a cask on the internet with PH people! hehe
We may be living with the same woman.. smile

Lefty

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16,154 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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krallicious said:
I'm easy with regard to the choices of the second cask. Peated sherry sounds good. As for the second, something with a coastal twang to it if that is possible?
That'll be peated bourbon then! It probably won't be coastal in the way you'd expect from an Islay dram or, say, Old Pulteney. It's not salty but sweet and smoky.

Plenty of distilleries will sell a full size cask but it takes a bit more cash obviously. A hogshead from Bruichladdich is about £3k to purchase IIRC.

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Lefty said:
peated or unpeated bourbon
Lefty, can you educate me please - what other (well known) whiskys would be similar in style to the peated and unpeated bourbon? If you can give (best estimate and opinion) some example whiskys I'd be grateful and it might help others in their choice.

edited for apostrophies even though Lefty has already quoted me - bugger!

Edited by S6PNJ on Sunday 21st August 21:04

Coneyhurst Blue

583 posts

192 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Lefty said:
I think 12 is probably a bit too much for one cask so can those who would prefer something other than peated sherry change the table above and paste it in a new post. Oh and for those who want a share of each can you edit the table and repost?

Ta.
What kind of numbers do you think we should be aiming for per cask ? 7 people - £100 each - 8 bottles at the end sounds good.
What say you all ?
As for choice of second cask I really am happy with whatever the consensus is.
I'll have a share in each please !

Lefty

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16,154 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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S6PNJ said:
Lefty said:
peated or unpeated bourbon
Lefty, can you educate me please - what other (well known) whisky's would be similar in style to the peated and unpeated bourbon? If you can give (best estimate and opinion) some example whisky's I'd be grateful and it might help others in their choice.
Bourbon casks are used to mature the majority of whisky in Scotland. Remember that what we're talking about is effectively single-cask whisky rather than single-malt whisky. Single casks are exactly that, a cask that is bottled for it's own merits. Every cask is different. Single malts are made by the master blender from lots of casks to match a particular flavour profile that the distillery wants. So, direct comparisons between single-casks to single-malts aren't that easy.

Anyway, examples of single-malt unpeated bourbon would be ancnoc, dalwhinnie, auchentoshan, knockando etc. From the bourbon cask you can expect honey, sweet light fruit and vanilla, some light spice (sherry gives dark fruit like plums, prunes and sultanas, demerara and mulled-wine type flavours).

Peated bourbons that aren't from Islay are even harder. There aren't many peated malts from the highlands that don't have sherry influence - talisker, highland park etc will all have some sherry casks in them. Not mant stills in Speyside use peat regularly. I've had a few single-cask Ardmores that are peated bourbon casks but the single malts usually have some sherry influence. Benriach have done some peated malts recently but how many of them are exclusively bourbon matured I couldn't say.

The thing about the Glenglassaugh spirit is that it's all very tropical-fruity due, presumably, to the shape of the stills. I can't think of any other single-malts that have this characteristic as a trademark...

So, that's not really a helpful post. I could recommend any number of single-casks to try but not many malts. Sorry confused

You try some Glenglassaugh miniatures to get an idea? The youngest bottling is 26yo and a miniature is about £20 I think. It's very good though.

As I've already said, they do sell new-make spirits, all bottled at 50% ABV as opposed to the 63.5% spirit that goes into a cask:

Clearach: unpeated
Peated: peated (duh)
Fledgling: unpeated with 6 months in american oak
Blushes: unpeated with a year in red wine casks



Lefty

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16,154 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Coneyhurst Blue said:
Lefty said:
I think 12 is probably a bit too much for one cask so can those who would prefer something other than peated sherry change the table above and paste it in a new post. Oh and for those who want a share of each can you edit the table and repost?

Ta.
What kind of numbers do you think we should be aiming for per cask ? 7 people - £100 each - 8 bottles at the end sounds good.
What say you all ?
As for choice of second cask I really am happy with whatever the consensus is.
I'll have a share in each please !
I think 10 as a maximum per octave is a good number. Less than 7 gives a lot of bottles per person...

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

181 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Bl@@dy hell. I've not been lurking for a couple of days - its like Jedward concert tickets have gone on sale. Well, maybe a bit more like Take That !

Am I too late ? Where are we at - one or two casks ? Peated sherry sounds interested.

TFatC

397 posts

252 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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If I had a clue how to copy and modify a table, I would!

Happy for one of each, no preferences so surprise me! hehe

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Ok, someone has to start this off - and seeing as how I already enjoy some shop bought - get 'em anywhere, mass produces stuff, I might as well enjoy some 'unique' whisky and spend my money here. How are we going to share the 'taster' that's sent every year?

Lefty - I hope I'm not being cheeky by also putting you down for one?

Lefty said:
PH name Cask 1 (peated sherry) Cask 2 (peated bourbon) Something else
Lefty 1 1
Coneyhurst Blue 1
Mr E? 1
Autofocus 1
TFatC 1
S6PNJ 1 1
FunkyGibbon 1
Flying Machine 1
duff-man 1
krallicious 1
hidetheelephants 1
85Carrera 1
[b]Total[b/] 12

Lefty

Original Poster:

16,154 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Thanks for doing that.

We're gonna need a couple to pull out of the peated sherry option and switch to peated bourbon though, otherwise the last two get chopped. Sorry frown


TFatC

397 posts

252 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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S6PNJ said:
Ok, someone has to start this off - and seeing as how I already enjoy some shop bought - get 'em anywhere, mass produces stuff, I might as well enjoy some 'unique' whisky and spend my money here. How are we going to share the 'taster' that's sent every year?

Lefty - I hope I'm not being cheeky by also putting you down for one?

Lefty said:
PH name Cask 1 (peated sherry) Cask 2 (peated bourbon) Something else
Lefty 1 1
Coneyhurst Blue 1
Mr E? 1
Autofocus 1
TFatC 1 1
S6PNJ 1 1
FunkyGibbon 1
Flying Machine 1
duff-man 1
krallicious 1
hidetheelephants 1
85Carrera 1
[b]Total[b/] 12
Hope that works as I was left off

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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TFatC said:
Hope that works as I was left off
Sorry - my mistake!

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

181 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Would it be too complicated for 1/2 shares in each cask ? So folks get a shot at both without the extra outlay.
Then some may shift across on that basis. The only thing at the end is that it my mean half bottles - or draw for who gets an extra sherry / bourbon if its not even numbers of each bottle.

krallicious

4,312 posts

205 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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I cannot figure out how to modify the table! hehe

I would like a share of each but if there are too many people for the peated sherry then I will have to go for the bourbon as I was was one of the last people to sign up for a cask.

Pete

FunkyGibbon

3,781 posts

264 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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PH name Cask 1 (peated sherry) Cask 2 (peated bourbon) Something else
Lefty 1 1
Coneyhurst Blue 1
Mr E? 1
Autofocus 1
TFatC 1 1
S6PNJ 1 1
FunkyGibbon 1 1
Flying Machine 1
duff-man 1
krallicious 1
hidetheelephants 1
85Carrera 1
[b]Total[b/] 12


Coneyhurst Blue

583 posts

192 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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FunkyGibbon said:
PH name||Cask 1 (peated sherry)||Cask 2 (peated bourbon)||Something else||
Lefty 1 1
Coneyhurst Blue 1 1 1
Mr E? 1
Autofocus 1
TFatC 1 1
S6PNJ 1 1
FunkyGibbon 1 1
Flying Machine 1
duff-man 1
krallicious 1
hidetheelephants 1
85Carrera 1
[b]Total[b/] 12
Ok desperate not to miss out, I have ticked the Peated Bourbon and also ticked something else just to be sure !
If I ended up with three casks I could live with that !


Coneyhurst Blue

583 posts

192 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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If someone who knows what they are doing wants to make the box the right size feel free !

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

181 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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krallicious said:
I cannot figure out how to modify the table! hehe

I would like a share of each but if there are too many people for the peated sherry then I will have to go for the bourbon as I was was one of the last people to sign up for a cask.

Pete
I would take a half share with you - to get me on. Both Pete's - seem's like a good match. Helps even out the two casks.
Or is that not what you mean't ?


Edited by ClassicMercs on Monday 22 August 12:15

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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I thought I'd have a go!

PH Whisky Cask Purchasers said:
PH name Cask 1 (peated sherry) Cask 2 (peated bourbon) Something else
Lefty 1 1 -
Coneyhurst Blue 1 1 1
Mr E? 1 - -
Autofocus 1 - -
TFatC 1 1 -
S6PNJ 1 1 -
FunkyGibbon 1 1 -
Flying Machine 1 - -
duff-man 1 - -
krallicious 1 - -
hidetheelephants 1 - -
85Carrera 1 - -
Total 12 5 1

Lefty

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16,154 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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3 casks?!

I take it somebopdy doesn't fancy peated bourbon? I'd be happy to take unpeated bourbon instead to keep it down to two casks (which would make managing it all a bit easier...)

I just got a message from the distillery to say they are taking orders for the next batch of sherry octaves now. It would be good to get the order in this week for the sherry cask.

Is anyone willing to pull out of the peated sherry cask to keep numbers down to ten? Otherwise I'll just cut the last two names. I'll give it till tomorrow morning.

Cheers
Lefty

p.s. half shares are OK as long as you sort it out between yourselves, it might just get too complicated otherwise. Sure you understand...I'm not doing this as part of my business or anything, just in my spare time. Cheers!