THE STEAK THREAD, served a la Man

THE STEAK THREAD, served a la Man

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corradokid

126 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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Wing rib roast with some Rothschild pauillac. Yum yum!!

21TonyK

11,513 posts

209 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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corradokid said:


Wing rib roast with some Rothschild pauillac. Yum yum!!
Thats a damn good bit of beef.

Lordsmut

303 posts

202 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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2 GKC said:
Nice. How long did you give it?
About 3 mins charring the sides over the coals then about half an hour in the indirect heat.

500 Miles

1,798 posts

226 months

Monday 14th September 2020
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Wow! This is not a thread to read when :

A) You’re hungry before bed; and
B) You thought you could cook steak but after reading this, realise you can’t!

Great effort chaps - I definitely need to raise my game

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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illmonkey said:
Fillet from supermarket. Cooked on the hottest job setting in a skillet, never seem to get a good colour. Rested for 5, a good colour inside.

Dauphinois slopped a bit!

Middle looks ok, but I'd have left the hob for another 5min or so. You just need it so much hotter than you think...

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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Single rib of beef, 2hrs out of the oven to warm through. Smothered in mustard, and dropped onto a nuclear Green Egg for 5-6min. Then into an oven at 90deg until the middle was ~51deg. 10min rest, wrapped in foil with a dollop of herbed butter on top.

Utterly phenomenal. Colour balance is a bit screwy (it was dark), so it looks a lot redder than it did in real life.



Edited by C70R on Tuesday 15th September 10:36

number2

4,291 posts

187 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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C70R said:
illmonkey said:
Fillet from supermarket. Cooked on the hottest job setting in a skillet, never seem to get a good colour. Rested for 5, a good colour inside.

Dauphinois slopped a bit!

Middle looks ok, but I'd have left the hob for another 5min or so. You just need it so much hotter than you think...
Yes, there's no such thing as too hot when searing a steak.

Never bother on a gas barbecue, just can't get the heat - I get a better job on a griddle pan on the hob. Charcoal BBQ works well.

illmonkey

18,173 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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number2 said:
C70R said:
illmonkey said:
Fillet from supermarket. Cooked on the hottest job setting in a skillet, never seem to get a good colour. Rested for 5, a good colour inside.

Dauphinois slopped a bit!

Middle looks ok, but I'd have left the hob for another 5min or so. You just need it so much hotter than you think...
Yes, there's no such thing as too hot when searing a steak.

Never bother on a gas barbecue, just can't get the heat - I get a better job on a griddle pan on the hob. Charcoal BBQ works well.
This was on my induction hob, at full heat for 5 mins before putting the steaks in. Not sure how I can get it hotter!?

UTH

8,923 posts

178 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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number2 said:
Yes, there's no such thing as too hot when searing a steak.

Never bother on a gas barbecue, just can't get the heat - I get a better job on a griddle pan on the hob. Charcoal BBQ works well.
Yes I agree re: Gas BBQ. I've got a fairly big 3 burner webber......the other day I put all three burners on full heat and lid shut to build up as much heat as possible before putting steak on...... and I was only cooking 2 steaks! And it still wasn't as good as using a pan on the hob at full whack. As soon as you open the BBQ lid it just can't keep as much heat as you need for a proper sear.

number2

4,291 posts

187 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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illmonkey said:
number2 said:
C70R said:
illmonkey said:
Fillet from supermarket. Cooked on the hottest job setting in a skillet, never seem to get a good colour. Rested for 5, a good colour inside.

Dauphinois slopped a bit!

Middle looks ok, but I'd have left the hob for another 5min or so. You just need it so much hotter than you think...
Yes, there's no such thing as too hot when searing a steak.

Never bother on a gas barbecue, just can't get the heat - I get a better job on a griddle pan on the hob. Charcoal BBQ works well.
This was on my induction hob, at full heat for 5 mins before putting the steaks in. Not sure how I can get it hotter!?
Not critiquing your steak, more a general comment on searing.

Outside of a charcoal BBQ it is indeed a challenge getting a high enough heat to effectively burn the steak biggrin. It's high heat that's needed more than time - the latter will start cooking the meat rather than 'charring'.


illmonkey

18,173 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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number2 said:
Not critiquing your steak, more a general comment on searing.

Outside of a charcoal BBQ it is indeed a challenge getting a high enough heat to effectively burn the steak biggrin. It's high heat that's needed more than time - the latter will start cooking the meat rather than 'charring'.
Best steak I ever had was a 'dirty steak', direct on lumpwood. That was hot enough hehe

paralla

3,533 posts

135 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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number2 said:
Never bother on a gas barbecue, just can't get the heat - I get a better job on a griddle pan on the hob. Charcoal BBQ works well.
Not all gas BBQ's are created equal. The 20,000 BTU infra red ceramic searing burner in my Bull Angus gets plenty hot to sear a steak. It replaces one of the conventional cast stainless steel burners and is specifically designed to sear steaks.

https://www.bullbbq.com/components/misc-stainless-...





number2

4,291 posts

187 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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illmonkey said:
number2 said:
Not critiquing your steak, more a general comment on searing.

Outside of a charcoal BBQ it is indeed a challenge getting a high enough heat to effectively burn the steak biggrin. It's high heat that's needed more than time - the latter will start cooking the meat rather than 'charring'.
Best steak I ever had was a 'dirty steak', direct on lumpwood. That was hot enough hehe
That's the badger biggrin.

This is a Tomahawk I seared over coals smokin



number2

4,291 posts

187 months

Tuesday 15th September 2020
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paralla said:
Not all gas BBQ's are created equal. The 20,000 BTU infra red ceramic searing burner in my Bull Angus gets plenty hot to sear a steak. It replaces one of the conventional cast stainless steel burners and is specifically designed to sear steaks.

https://www.bullbbq.com/components/misc-stainless-...
Fair play, I've a Weber Genesis II with sear station and it can no way deliver what yours does! Bit of mis-selling by Weber if you ask me.

rdjohn

6,167 posts

195 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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https://life.spectator.co.uk/articles/how-to-spot-...

Interesting read for quality steak lovers. Explains difference between aged and dry-aged.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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385g fillet (of a 600g). Seared. Applied English mustard and finished in the oven with a meat probe. Removed at 55 C and rested for 10 minutes.

Greshamst

2,051 posts

120 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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For really good searing I’ve found a cast iron grill that’s the same size as my coal starter chimney. Really intense concentrated heat.

Here’s one for this week, a 70 day dry aged rib eye, that due to an emergency had been put in the freezer in February. Cooked on the hob in a skillet, overcooked it unfortunately, but luckily the aged flavour was still great.


2 GKC

1,895 posts

105 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Burwood said:
385g fillet (of a 600g). Seared. Applied English mustard and finished in the oven with a meat probe. Removed at 55 C and rested for 10 minutes.
Christ I thought I liked mustard. That’s mustard with a steak isn’t it?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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2 GKC said:
Burwood said:
385g fillet (of a 600g). Seared. Applied English mustard and finished in the oven with a meat probe. Removed at 55 C and rested for 10 minutes.
Christ I thought I liked mustard. That’s mustard with a steak isn’t it?
It’s not pure mustard. It’s a mustard based sauce.

Harry Flashman

19,331 posts

242 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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UTH said:
number2 said:
Yes, there's no such thing as too hot when searing a steak.

Never bother on a gas barbecue, just can't get the heat - I get a better job on a griddle pan on the hob. Charcoal BBQ works well.
Yes I agree re: Gas BBQ. I've got a fairly big 3 burner webber......the other day I put all three burners on full heat and lid shut to build up as much heat as possible before putting steak on...... and I was only cooking 2 steaks! And it still wasn't as good as using a pan on the hob at full whack. As soon as you open the BBQ lid it just can't keep as much heat as you need for a proper sear.
Actually a gas barbecue works well for this, but you need a cast iron plate rather than a grill. Same as a cast iron skillet over a gas burner - the material stores heat and gets very, very hot and a very even sear and maillard reaction.

As seen on this thread, I smoke and cook thick steaks low and slow over charcoal, and finish on a gas-heated iron plate. Best results I have ever had


Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 3rd October 22:39