Burgers & fries prices
Discussion
Driver101 said:
If it was so hard to make profit on a burger bar, why is there an explosion of them all over the place? I can only think that so many people are opening burger businesses as they realise the money to be made?
Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
What about 'chicken shops" but its not about the takings :-) They still have huge turnovers and happy owners :-)Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
Driver101 said:
If it was so hard to make profit on a burger bar, why is there an explosion of them all over the place? I can only think that so many people are opening burger businesses as they realise the money to be made?
Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
How many Wimpys are still open?Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
C70R said:
If you think that burgers are a "profitable" business, then you clearly know nothing about the industry. You want to find fault with restaurant food mark-ups, go look at the pizza example - you would pay 300% or more to make a "burger and fries" that's charged roughly same as a high street pizza/Italian chain.
You want a good laugh, look into how some of the upper end chains source their beef. Then compare with the sh*te quality processed meat that you're served on top of chain pizzas. You're still paying the same £12-15. I know where my money would be going.
Wetherspoons?You want a good laugh, look into how some of the upper end chains source their beef. Then compare with the sh*te quality processed meat that you're served on top of chain pizzas. You're still paying the same £12-15. I know where my money would be going.
Edited by C70R on Friday 28th April 10:05
Steak and a pint £7?
Driver101 said:
battered said:
These points have it. If burgers are such a road to riches, open a shop, then come back here and tell us how it funds your Ferrari at 3k a month.
As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy b
ds could do it themselves, what's the difference?
If it was so hard to make profit on a burger bar, why is there an explosion of them all over the place? I can only think that so many people are opening burger businesses as they realise the money to be made?As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy b
ds could do it themselves, what's the difference?Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
The Mad Monk said:
C70R said:
If you think that burgers are a "profitable" business, then you clearly know nothing about the industry. You want to find fault with restaurant food mark-ups, go look at the pizza example - you would pay 300% or more to make a "burger and fries" that's charged roughly same as a high street pizza/Italian chain.
You want a good laugh, look into how some of the upper end chains source their beef. Then compare with the sh*te quality processed meat that you're served on top of chain pizzas. You're still paying the same £12-15. I know where my money would be going.
Wetherspoons?You want a good laugh, look into how some of the upper end chains source their beef. Then compare with the sh*te quality processed meat that you're served on top of chain pizzas. You're still paying the same £12-15. I know where my money would be going.
Edited by C70R on Friday 28th April 10:05
Steak and a pint £7?
C70R said:
Do you really want/need me to tell you about the quality of meat you get at Wetherspoons?
if you're in a wetherspoons you're not in there for quality. at £7 having your free pint of guiness with it is pretty much half the cost of the meal. the 'gourmet' burger meal being a firm favourite.Driver101 said:
battered said:
These points have it. If burgers are such a road to riches, open a shop, then come back here and tell us how it funds your Ferrari at 3k a month.
As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy bds could do it themselves, what's the difference?
If it was so hard to make profit on a burger bar, why is there an explosion of them all over the place? I can only think that so many people are opening burger businesses as they realise the money to be made?As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy b
ds could do it themselves, what's the difference?Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
If it is 6 restaurants, given the price of running commercial property in Scotland (they have restaurants in Dundee and Stirling FFS), it's hardly shocking that they might be able to make £40k clear profit on a site that's open 360+ days a year. Their basic cheeseburger costs the same £8.50 as Byron is charging at their site in Soho, Central London.
You don't need me to do the maths, but that's basically £100 profit per (Scottish) site, per day, after costs.
Hardly lucrative!
Edited by C70R on Friday 28th April 17:18
ambuletz said:
C70R said:
Do you really want/need me to tell you about the quality of meat you get at Wetherspoons?
if you're in a wetherspoons you're not in there for quality. at £7 having your free pint of guiness with it is pretty much half the cost of the meal. the 'gourmet' burger meal being a firm favourite.C70R said:
Driver101 said:
battered said:
These points have it. If burgers are such a road to riches, open a shop, then come back here and tell us how it funds your Ferrari at 3k a month.
As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy bds could do it themselves, what's the difference?
If it was so hard to make profit on a burger bar, why is there an explosion of them all over the place? I can only think that so many people are opening burger businesses as they realise the money to be made?As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy b
ds could do it themselves, what's the difference?Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
If it is 6 restaurants, given the price of commercial property in Scotland (they have restaurants in Dundee and Stirling FFS), it's hardly shocking that they might be able to make £40k clear profit on a site that's open 360+ days a year. Their cheeseburger costs the same £8.50 as Byron is charging at their site in Soho.
You don't need me to do the maths, but that's basically £100 profit per (Scottish) site, per day, after costs. That's hardly the kind of money that's going to make anyone rich...
http://www.scotsman.com/giving-back/charities/booz...
Burwood said:
C70R said:
Driver101 said:
battered said:
These points have it. If burgers are such a road to riches, open a shop, then come back here and tell us how it funds your Ferrari at 3k a month.
As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy bds could do it themselves, what's the difference?
If it was so hard to make profit on a burger bar, why is there an explosion of them all over the place? I can only think that so many people are opening burger businesses as they realise the money to be made?As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy b
ds could do it themselves, what's the difference?Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
If it is 6 restaurants, given the price of commercial property in Scotland (they have restaurants in Dundee and Stirling FFS), it's hardly shocking that they might be able to make £40k clear profit on a site that's open 360+ days a year. Their cheeseburger costs the same £8.50 as Byron is charging at their site in Soho.
You don't need me to do the maths, but that's basically £100 profit per (Scottish) site, per day, after costs. That's hardly the kind of money that's going to make anyone rich...
http://www.scotsman.com/giving-back/charities/booz...
This article is from March 2016, and cites 6 locations across the "group" - I'm confused.
https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2016/03/boozy-cow...
Either way, we're talking about £100 a day or £600 a day, on Scottish ground rents and wages, selling food at the same price as London. How much do you think that would translate to in a London-based eatery?
Love the idea that he's also funding his "lavish lifestyle" from the business too. The article you linked said "businessman Garreth Wood, the son of the oil tycoon Sir Ian Wood". Sounds like he's probably donating the equivalent of his salary and bonus - no mean feat in itself - but hardly like he needs to take a wage from the business.
C70R said:
Burwood said:
C70R said:
Driver101 said:
battered said:
These points have it. If burgers are such a road to riches, open a shop, then come back here and tell us how it funds your Ferrari at 3k a month.
As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy bds could do it themselves, what's the difference?
If it was so hard to make profit on a burger bar, why is there an explosion of them all over the place? I can only think that so many people are opening burger businesses as they realise the money to be made?As to suites at 35k a night, who cares? If they want £1000 cocktails and 5 crisps for £50, more fool them. It employs people, including the woman combing the carpet. Plenty here employ a cleaner when the lazy b
ds could do it themselves, what's the difference?Boozy Cow give their profits away to charity. They've managed to afford to give away nearly £500,000 in the last two years from two restaurants.
They only started a couple of years ago and had the additional expense of moving one of their two restaurants to bigger premises and have now opened a further two restaurants.
The owner predicts that the charitable donations will exceed £1m per year.
So what is he doing do much better than all the other burger bars that he can afford to pay out significant amounts of money whilst funding his lavish lifestyle?
If it is 6 restaurants, given the price of commercial property in Scotland (they have restaurants in Dundee and Stirling FFS), it's hardly shocking that they might be able to make £40k clear profit on a site that's open 360+ days a year. Their cheeseburger costs the same £8.50 as Byron is charging at their site in Soho.
You don't need me to do the maths, but that's basically £100 profit per (Scottish) site, per day, after costs. That's hardly the kind of money that's going to make anyone rich...
http://www.scotsman.com/giving-back/charities/booz...
This article is from March 2016, and cites 6 locations across the "group" - I'm confused.
https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2016/03/boozy-cow...
Either way, we're talking about £100 a day or £600 a day, on Scottish ground rents and wages, selling food at the same price as London. How much do you think that would translate to in a London-based eatery?
Love the idea that he's also funding his "lavish lifestyle" from the business too. The article you linked said "businessman Garreth Wood, the son of the oil tycoon Sir Ian Wood". Sounds like he's probably donating the equivalent of his salary and bonus - no mean feat in itself - but hardly like he needs to take a wage from the business.
It doesn't say he's selling 6 Boozy Cows, he's selling 6 of his other businesses. They are pubs and clubs.
There is 4 Boozy Cows. Those profits were made off two places as Stirling and Dundee opened later.
You think he's donating all the money he's earning and living off his retired father?
I didn't realise the debate was London v. The rest of the country. Edinburgh and Aberdeen aren't the cheapest of places either.
C70R said:
ambuletz said:
C70R said:
Do you really want/need me to tell you about the quality of meat you get at Wetherspoons?
if you're in a wetherspoons you're not in there for quality. at £7 having your free pint of guiness with it is pretty much half the cost of the meal. the 'gourmet' burger meal being a firm favourite.
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