Cheap meat

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KungFuPanda

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4,332 posts

170 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Where do you guys stand on cheap meat? I know the cheaper the meat, the lower the quality you might expect and also the way the animal is raised is also in question. However in this economic climate, surely all families should have the option of having decent sunday dinner? I've recently received an email from my local Toby carvery offering two meals for a tenner. Surely at that price, they must be getting cheap joints of meat for their roasts.

Personally, I do go for the cheaper option. Currently, Morrisons are doing pork shoulder for £2.66 a kilo. I think they use British farmers too. A tad over a fiver will get you a 2 kilo joint which when roasted with veggies and yorkshire puddings will do a decent Sunday dinner for 4 people for under a tenner. Costco do 2 1.7kg chickens for £7 which again is pretty decent. Morrisons do 2 sirloin, rump or ribeye steaks for £7. Minimum of 225g. I've had these in the past and they've been decent. Over Easter, you could get fresh leg of lamb for £5 a kilo. A local butcher are advertising their lamb shoulder on Facebook for £9.99 a kilo. Would theirs be really twice as good as the £5 per kilo leg?

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Luckily i get lamb and charolais beef from a few of the farms i deliver to .

Last purchase was £70 for essentially half a cow and bagged up into different cuts.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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I used to work in the meat and fish business.

Morrisons have a very good reputation - they stipulate very high welfare standards and you can usually guarantee everything is decent quality. Might not be the best, but for the money you can't complain. Are you sure you're right about the lamb price? I saw a fiver a kilo for shoulder, but not for leg. Shoulder is the better cut anyway...

I'd be wary of Costco, as I don't know where they source meat. I know Iceland get chicken from the Far East, so this should be avoided, as should any Danish or Dutch pork.

Lidl are pretty good, too, and mostly use British and RSPCA certified farmers, just watch that Dutch and Danish pork thing, especially on bacon (this is true for all supermarkets)

technodup

7,580 posts

130 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Once it's dead it's dead. I've got several Asian butchers near me and meat is always cheap, as long as you don't ask for pork.

£3.29/kg for boneless chicken. Was £3 until recently. Not sure what bits of the bird it is, assume anything but the breast but it's cheaper than breast and much nicer to eat. Packaged up in plastic at a supermarket and you're close to £8/9.

If you feel like it they'll also do you lamb's stomach, cow's feet, unidentified 'fish' and god knows what else.

None of that organic corn fed bks in my house.

KungFuPanda

Original Poster:

4,332 posts

170 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I used to work in the meat and fish business.

Morrisons have a very good reputation - they stipulate very high welfare standards and you can usually guarantee everything is decent quality. Might not be the best, but for the money you can't complain. Are you sure you're right about the lamb price? I saw a fiver a kilo for shoulder, but not for leg. Shoulder is the better cut anyway...

I'd be wary of Costco, as I don't know where they source meat. I know Iceland get chicken from the Far East, so this should be avoided, as should any Danish or Dutch pork.

Lidl are pretty good, too, and mostly use British and RSPCA certified farmers, just watch that Dutch and Danish pork thing, especially on bacon (this is true for all supermarkets)
I always though Morrisons strived for high standards for the welfare of the meat they sold.

Lamb leg was definitely a fiver a kilo over Easter. Asda were doing it at that price and so were some of the budget supermarkets. I paid around £12 a leg.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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I just visit the knock down shelves, ribeye, fillet, loads of fresh fish all decent quality from the fresh food counters cheap.

fredt

847 posts

147 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
Where do you guys stand on cheap meat? I know the cheaper the meat, the lower the quality you might expect and also the way the animal is raised is also in question. However in this economic climate, surely all families should have the option of having decent sunday dinner?
No not at all. I don't understand where this idea of entitlement comes from?

If I couldn't afford to buy meat, eggs etc where reasonable care have been taken of the animals, I just wouldn't buy it. Or buy less, and less often.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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I'm mostly veggie now but in my past I treated meat much as I now treat whisky. I don't need it every day so instead of buying 7 meals of cheap meat per week, I would buy 1 or 2 days worth of really nice stuff.

I'd like to think that when a supermarket offers meat at below the price it takes to produce it, it's them that are taking the hit as a loss leader to get you into the shop and buying other stuff, but I fear that's not the case and that they are blackmailing their producers into taking the hit in return for regular sales.

Its tempting to take up their bargains but the moral part of me says no. I can't believe that they can sell meat for less than it was 20 or 30 years ago without a downside somewhere.

WillieSylvester

10 posts

83 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Great suggestions. Thanks for sharing.

Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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No the kind of discussion I thought this would be about:

Feather steak
Cheeks (pig/beef/etc)
Onglet
Short ribs (Jacobs ladder)
chuck eye
Shin
Neck (All meats)
Brisket
Teres Major
Merlot steak
Pork Top Sirloin
Collar (Pork, etc)
Shoulder (Lamb, etc)

Not about the quality of chicken, etc...

If you try the hidden old skool cuts then you might still find some gems there that are better than the premium cuts if cooked correctly... plus they are still reasonably cheap.

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Trabi601 said:
, as should any Danish or Dutch pork.
Just out of interest, why avoid the Dutch and Danish oink? is it more cursed? Not that it matters as we mostly get Chinese or (strangely for a Muslim country) Indonesian pork.


Du1point8 said:
If you try the hidden old skool cuts then you might still find some gems there that are better than the premium cuts if cooked correctly... plus they are still reasonably cheap.
Whack 'em in a pressure cooker and away you go!


Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Dont you have an ISP to set up?

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Du1point8 said:
Dont you have an ISP to set up?
testing packets (of steak)

hehe

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Du1point8 said:
No the kind of discussion I thought this would be about:

Feather steak
Cheeks (pig/beef/etc)
Onglet
Short ribs (Jacobs ladder)
chuck eye
Shin
Neck (All meats)
Brisket
Teres Major
Merlot steak
Pork Top Sirloin
Collar (Pork, etc)
Shoulder (Lamb, etc)

Not about the quality of chicken, etc...

If you try the hidden old skool cuts then you might still find some gems there that are better than the premium cuts if cooked correctly... plus they are still reasonably cheap.
Shin is my favourite cut of beef. Absolutely amazing falvour & melts in the mouth if browned well then casseroled in a 125c oven for 3 hours.

In the last year or so Sainsbury's have started selling neck of lamb as shoulder and have upped the price. Is that not against some sort of law?

Bill

52,747 posts

255 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Du1point8 said:
If you try the hidden old skool cuts then you might still find some gems there that are better than the premium cuts if cooked correctly... plus they are still reasonably cheap.
The irritating things is most of those have been picked up by one celebrity chef or another and are on people's radar far more, so prices have risen.

NormalWisdom

2,139 posts

159 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Have a look at the Meatman - Online butcher with a shop in Oswestry.

I buy pretty much all my steak from him - The 52oz runmp is the best I've ever had, the Tomahawk steaks (which are sometimes on offer at £10 for a 28oz wedge) are superb. Delivery is usually within 48 hours.

StangGT

3,925 posts

269 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Chicken gizzards, if you can find them, are fantastic.

So much more flavour than cotton wool chicken breasts and far cheaper too.

Apparently people dont like them due to their name and the fact its offal. Good. More for me.

Du1point8

21,607 posts

192 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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StangGT said:
Chicken gizzards, if you can find them, are fantastic.

So much more flavour than cotton wool chicken breasts and far cheaper too.

Apparently people dont like them due to their name and the fact its offal. Good. More for me.
Same with chicken livers, in fact, all liver is lovely... kidney is a bit of work.

Pan fry in flour and garlic and I could have them every day.

Shame OH doesnt like the smell of them cooking.

hashtag

1,116 posts

154 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I used to work in the meat and fish business.

Morrisons have a very good reputation - they stipulate very high welfare standards and you can usually guarantee everything is decent quality. Might not be the best, but for the money you can't complain. Are you sure you're right about the lamb price? I saw a fiver a kilo for shoulder, but not for leg. Shoulder is the better cut anyway...

I'd be wary of Costco, as I don't know where they source meat. I know Iceland get chicken from the Far East, so this should be avoided, as should any Danish or Dutch pork.

Lidl are pretty good, too, and mostly use British and RSPCA certified farmers, just watch that Dutch and Danish pork thing, especially on bacon (this is true for all supermarkets)
Costco meat is excellent, and properly sourced

_Neal_

2,663 posts

219 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
. Morrisons do 2 sirloin, rump or ribeye steaks for £7. Minimum of 225g.
I'd really recommend these as decent value steak - noticeably better than the same from Tesco or Sainsburys (both of which cost a good chunk more). Really rate Morrisons meat overall.