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NormalWisdom said:
Have a look at the Meatman - Online butcher with a shop in Oswestry.
I buy pretty much all my steak from him - The 52oz runmp is the best I've ever had, the Tomahawk steaks (which are sometimes on offer at £10 for a 28oz wedge) are superb. Delivery is usually within 48 hours.
Just up the road from me.I buy pretty much all my steak from him - The 52oz runmp is the best I've ever had, the Tomahawk steaks (which are sometimes on offer at £10 for a 28oz wedge) are superb. Delivery is usually within 48 hours.
Du1point8 said:
No the kind of discussion I thought this would be about:
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If you try the hidden old skool cuts then you might still find some gems there that are better than the premium cuts if cooked correctly... plus they are still reasonably cheap.
Wasn't this Hugh Faintly Witterings point, spend time cooking the cheaper cuts well..
If you try the hidden old skool cuts then you might still find some gems there that are better than the premium cuts if cooked correctly... plus they are still reasonably cheap.
XJSJohn said:
Trabi601 said:
, as should any Danish or Dutch pork.
Just out of interest, why avoid the Dutch and Danish oink? is it more cursed? Not that it matters as we mostly get Chinese or (strangely for a Muslim country) Indonesian pork.If you buy quality pork in the U.K. It'll have spent some of its life outside but also the barn conditions will be much better. A good farmer will create private spaces using hay bales and provide toys for entertainment.
Trabi601 said:
Dutch and Danish pig farmers still widely use farrowing crates and stalls.
If you buy quality pork in the U.K. It'll have spent some of its life outside but also the barn conditions will be much better. A good farmer will create private spaces using hay bales and provide toys for entertainment.
Don't know if you know or not but I'm sure I heard somewhere that at some point in the near future standards had to be raised to match those in the UK?If you buy quality pork in the U.K. It'll have spent some of its life outside but also the barn conditions will be much better. A good farmer will create private spaces using hay bales and provide toys for entertainment.
ISTR it was a pig farmer in the UK who was saying it would force non-UK prices up so it was a more level playing field for UK farmers.
_Neal_ said:
KungFuPanda said:
. Morrisons do 2 sirloin, rump or ribeye steaks for £7. Minimum of 225g.
I'd really recommend these as decent value steak - noticeably better than the same from Tesco or Sainsburys (both of which cost a good chunk more). Really rate Morrisons meat overall. 
Appreciate not a "cheap cut" but at that price I'd class it as cheap vs. Paying £35 for half that size in Goodmans/Hawksmoor restaurants.
400g Money Shot
They had quite a few packaged cuts of steak (skirt/hanger). Which taste vs price are well worth it.
Also Morrisons in-house butchers seem knowledgable/offer up good advice re how to cook/alternative cuts of meat.
Edited by seyre1972 on Friday 19th May 21:07
21TonyK said:
Don't know if you know or not but I'm sure I heard somewhere that at some point in the near future standards had to be raised to match those in the UK?
ISTR it was a pig farmer in the UK who was saying it would force non-UK prices up so it was a more level playing field for UK farmers.
I left the industry in 2013, just as crate restrictions came into force, so I'm not sure what the current state of play is.ISTR it was a pig farmer in the UK who was saying it would force non-UK prices up so it was a more level playing field for UK farmers.
Generally, I will only buy British sourced meat where possible.
Trabi601 said:
XJSJohn said:
Trabi601 said:
, as should any Danish or Dutch pork.
Just out of interest, why avoid the Dutch and Danish oink? is it more cursed? Not that it matters as we mostly get Chinese or (strangely for a Muslim country) Indonesian pork.If you buy quality pork in the U.K. It'll have spent some of its life outside but also the barn conditions will be much better. A good farmer will create private spaces using hay bales and provide toys for entertainment.
I am guessing that the Porcine Unions have not managed to get a foodhold in China and SE Asia yet so will have to continue with my bacon from non union sanctioned workplaces for now
Trabi601 said:
XJSJohn said:
Trabi601 said:
, as should any Danish or Dutch pork.
Just out of interest, why avoid the Dutch and Danish oink? is it more cursed? Not that it matters as we mostly get Chinese or (strangely for a Muslim country) Indonesian pork.If you buy quality pork in the U.K. It'll have spent some of its life outside but also the barn conditions will be much better. A good farmer will create private spaces using hay bales and provide toys for entertainment.
Excuse the source and the framing, but this story seems relevant...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4527444/Br...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4527444/Br...
For anyone interested in this topic I would highly recommend reading Hugh Fearnley-Wittingstall's Meat book. The start of each chapter is a pretty frank discussion on (among other things) the issues surrounding modern intensive farming, and how to make 'better' choices.
He is very much of Fredt's view:
If I couldn't afford to buy meat, eggs etc where reasonable care have been taken of the animals, I just wouldn't buy it. Or buy less, and less often.I am also. However, while not as wealthy as Hugh F-W, the high cost of chicken fillets isn't something that keeps me awake at night - if I were skint I might have a different view.
Lamb prices discussed higher up the page - the cheap stuff is probably of New Zealand origin? Nothing wrong with it, but I'd rather support farmers closer to home and I don't like the idea of wasting energy flying stuff right round the world that we can produce here, where I can avoid it.
He is very much of Fredt's view:
fredt said:
KungFuPanda said:
Where do you guys stand on cheap meat? I know the cheaper the meat, the lower the quality you might expect and also the way the animal is raised is also in question. However in this economic climate, surely all families should have the option of having decent sunday dinner?
No not at all. I don't understand where this idea of entitlement comes from?If I couldn't afford to buy meat, eggs etc where reasonable care have been taken of the animals, I just wouldn't buy it. Or buy less, and less often.
Lamb prices discussed higher up the page - the cheap stuff is probably of New Zealand origin? Nothing wrong with it, but I'd rather support farmers closer to home and I don't like the idea of wasting energy flying stuff right round the world that we can produce here, where I can avoid it.
brrapp said:
I'd like to think that when a supermarket offers meat at below the price it takes to produce it, it's them that are taking the hit as a loss leader to get you into the shop and buying other stuff, but I fear that's not the case and that they are blackmailing their producers into taking the hit in return for regular sales.
Your fears are not unfounded, that is exactly how it works.If i'm not feeling flush for expensive cuts from good sources, I'll buy cheaper cuts rather than buying the never-seen-sunlight supermarket meat.
Ribs, for instance, are $4 per pound right now which is very affordable. The other week my wife wanted a fillet steak which was $35 / pound so it balances out.
Ribs, for instance, are $4 per pound right now which is very affordable. The other week my wife wanted a fillet steak which was $35 / pound so it balances out.
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