Where are all the chickens?

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craigjm

17,939 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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So what was the need for the initial aggressive response and name calling? I was simply questioning why they don't say on their website that ALL of their chicken comes from the same, well regulated source. Without that stated people can start to make assumptions which, if wrong, they should put right.

If you had answered initially with.... that's not true because I have been involved in production etc etc then that would have been all good and we would have learnt something without the need for me to ask about your credentials and you throwing around childish insults.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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craigjm said:
So what was the need for the initial aggressive response and name calling? I was simply questioning why they don't say on their website that ALL of their chicken comes from the same, well regulated source. Without that stated people can start to make assumptions which, if wrong, they should put right.

If you had answered initially with.... that's not true because I have been involved in production etc etc then that would have been all good and we would have learnt something without the need for me to ask about your credentials and you throwing around childish insults.
Name calling childish insults Dear God( I called you Alan Partridge that is really bad), I was brusk because your originally statement said this

''A great amount of cheap chicken for places like the 3 pieces for £2 brigade comes in from Thailand and Brazil etc and is raised in very poor condition and injected with water etc.''

Which as I said is a load of bks.


Edited by The Spruce goose on Sunday 24th September 12:29

silentbrown

8,820 posts

116 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
750m chickens slaughtered in the UK each year, 94% intensively reared.

Here in Herefordshire, there's a lot of intensive chicken units. From the outside, they're just very large, very smelly sheds.
North Herefordshire's just as bad. See how many you can see here. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Madley,+Herefo...

And you pretty much don't want to own a house within 500m of one. 700,000 chickens on a 35-day cycle is a lot of chickenst to get rid of.

craigjm

17,939 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
name calling childish insults dear god, I was brusk because your originally statement said this

''A great amount of cheap chicken for places like the 3 pieces for £2 brigade comes in from Thailand and Brazil etc and is raised in very poor condition and injected with water etc.''

Which as I said is a load of bks.
Is it? Note that I never said KFC. I was referring to the likes of chicken cottage etc where you can get two pieces with fries and a drink for around £2.50. Were you supplying all of these cheap take outs too?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Intensive farmed chickens is a very depressing industry to be in. The rife of salmonella and campylobacter flocks is very high, the amount of anti bacterial supplements they are pumped full of is massive. The chickens fight each other i and end up with broken wings , the st st is not properly cleaned out.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I heard on the radio that if you applied inflation to the cost of a chicken in the 1930s, a chicken today would cost about £40. I think a whole chicken is about £4 in the supermarket.

I guess in those days chickens were reared on farms and had coups and were fed corn and treated with a modicum of decency. Labour intensive work.
Same for many foodstuffs though. The meat we might use for a single meal + chuck the leftovers would have fed a family for a week then through clever use.

The rather large and properly free range chicken breasts from my local farm shop work out about £1 or so-ish each IIRC, I dont think they're massively more expensive than low grade supermarket chicken.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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craigjm said:
Is it? Note that I never said KFC. I was referring to the likes of chicken cottage etc where you can get two pieces with fries and a drink for around £2.50. Were you supplying all of these cheap take outs too?
Yes this line is wholesale birds, usually older than what could be sold to retail. it would be a mixture of welfare birds, but no different to kfc they were still fresh, same as the breasts and wings. The only thing we froze where drumsticks and legs for romania and wings for kfc. Breast sometimes but rare as it is a loss.

43034

2,963 posts

168 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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They're kept in squalid, disgusting conditions wading through their own st and dead friends for a month or so before being killed. Don't eat it if you consider yourself a humane person.

Thankyou4calling

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10,601 posts

173 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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BJG1 said:
They're kept in squalid, disgusting conditions wading through their own st and dead friends for a month or so before being killed. Don't eat it if you consider yourself a humane person.
Yeah, but 9 pieces for £5.99!

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Free range for me at a minimum.

silentbrown

8,820 posts

116 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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garyhun said:
Free range for me at a minimum.
The problem can be finding it. Our local supermarkets seem to have hardly any on the shelves.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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silentbrown said:
garyhun said:
Free range for me at a minimum.
The problem can be finding it. Our local supermarkets seem to have hardly any on the shelves.
I know. Lots of chicken is labelled 'corn fed' to try to confuse as well.

If free range is not available I go without. Today's Sunday roast is meat free for that reason.

BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Thankyou4calling said:
Yeah, but 9 pieces for £5.99!
you can get none for free.

BJG1

5,966 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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garyhun said:
Free range for me at a minimum.
Unless you know the farm it's come from, don't bother: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/horrifying-tr...


alorotom

11,937 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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BJG1 said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Yeah, but 9 pieces for £5.99!
you can get none for free.
... and be hungry ...

Evanivitch

20,031 posts

122 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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If you're still struggling to find the chickens,go to Throckmorton on a cold morning, follow the tractors with steam rising from the trailers... Or your nose.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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BJG1 said:
They're kept in squalid, disgusting conditions wading through their own st and dead friends for a month or so before being killed. Don't eat it if you consider yourself a humane person.
It is hellish. Though to be fair, we keep a few and wading through their own st seems to represent a jolly good time. Horrible bds they are. The state of the ones which come out of the battery farms is appalling though.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Chicken production covers 0.3% of the UK's entire landmass. It is a big, but cruel, industry. Getting a large KFC bucket to your table for ~£5 means chickens have to be worked hard.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,327 posts

150 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I'm convinced that in 100+ years, people will look at the way we intensively farmed animals and not be able to get their heads around how we could have ever thought it was remotely acceptable, much in the same way we look back at the slave trade and the holocaust.

It's absolutely shameful. And I'm not even a vegetarian.