Time for a new boiler?

[Harleyboy]

I can’t think of a more boring thing to spend money than a new boiler, but I think the time has come. The current one is the original item and now around 22 years old. I’m sure it’s terribly inefficient and also doesn’t always work! The hot water is fine but the heating (all controlled by Hive) is a bit hit and miss. A Miss tonight actually which is annoying as I’ve finally o putting the heating on before my November 1 ‘on’ date.

Two questions then I guess - one is whether anyone has had issues with Hive not working properly with the boiler? I don’t know what is at fault and whenever I’ve called Homecare out it’s always working when they come!

Second question - can I get a new boiler fitted for £2000? It needs to power 16 rads. Simple to fit as in in the garage. Hot water tank is fairly new.

I’ve bored myself writing this so won’t be surprised if no replies 😁

[B17NNS]

Answer a few questions over here...

https://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/products/boilers...

and you'll be able to find out the cost of the boiler.

[MJG280]

It is likely that if the central heating has not run since the spring that the pump might not be running. They can stick after a period of non-running. Find the pump, turn on heating and ensure that the thermostat is on and then tap the pump gently with a hammer. If that doesn't free it repeat the tapping with increased force.
or get a plumber round before you break it.

[Wuzzle]

We had Hive installed last year and have needed a new wall mounted sender and boiler receiver unit in that time. The heating should have been on but wasn't. With a Worcester Bosch boiler that came to £2200.

[Harleyboy]

MJG280 said:

It is likely that if the central heating has not run since the spring that the pump might not be running. They can stick after a period of non-running. Find the pump, turn on heating and ensure that the thermostat is on and then tap the pump gently with a hammer. If that doesn't free it repeat the tapping with increased force.
or get a plumber round before you break it.

Thanks, I’ll try this. Would a sticking pump mean that the boiler didn’t fire?

Thanks for the price indication and the link. Probably £2500 would do it

[Pheo]

Normally the system is wired so the pump has to be on before the boiler will fire...

[forest07]

Pheo said:

Normally the system is wired so the pump has to be on before the boiler will fire...

Things must have changed as both S &Y plan systems had the power to the pump and boiler from the same connection.

[blueg33]

Sadly you do not meet the benchmark for boiler threads on ph. Unless you can top the description of the boilers as a "selfish metal anus" you won't get my attention.

[PositronicRay]

I was perusing the shelves of WHS and came across "Classic Boiler"

When does a shed boiler become a classic?

[Alucidnation]

forest07 said:

Pheo said:

Normally the system is wired so the pump has to be on before the boiler will fire...

Things must have changed as both S &Y plan systems had the power to the pump and boiler from the same connection.

They were all from the same connection (SWL from valve to boiler & pump), however, most systems now have the pump connected directly to the boiler via its own set of terminals.

[p1esk]

MJG280 said:

It is likely that if the central heating has not run since the spring that the pump might not be running. They can stick after a period of non-running. Find the pump, turn on heating and ensure that the thermostat is on and then tap the pump gently with a hammer. If that doesn't free it repeat the tapping with increased force.
or get a plumber round before you break it.

All the pumps I've ever had have been fitted with a screw on top. Removing this screw gives access to the end of the pump spindle. A thin screwdriver can then be engaged with the slot in the end of the spindle and used to free it. This has always worked for me.

[Harleyboy]

blueg33 said:

Sadly you do not meet the benchmark for boiler threads on ph. Unless you can top the description of the boilers as a "selfish metal anus" you won't get my attention.

Lol, it’s a billion years old so I don’t feel that bad about it. I gave the pump a smack with a hammer earlier but no joy. It’s worked recently so I’m not sure it’s stuck through lack of use. It’s done this several times before and always worked the next day. Second day no heating. Lucky it’s warm i guess!

BG coming out as it’s under homecare but think I went cheapskate and did the boiler and controls only which would exclude the pump....

Cheers for suggestions