Uber driverless car in fatal accident
Discussion
esxste said:
All sympathies to the womans family... I can imagine what they're feeling right now. I hope the media leave them alone.
The question I posed even today in these forums will get tested: who takes responsibility for this? The person in the car? Uber?
There will no doubt be plenty of evidence as the car will be full of cameras so fault should easily be discovered. I think as its still in its test stage all these cars still need a operator in who should be ready to take control if things start going wrong. So it's them who will be held responsible if they didn't take control when they should have done. The question I posed even today in these forums will get tested: who takes responsibility for this? The person in the car? Uber?
No-one believes that self-driving cars will not have accidents.
What is important is that they have less accidents than cars driven by humans.
If they do (and they will) then insurance will be cheaper (probably embedded in subscription for car services) and fewer people will be killed and injured.
loafer123 said:
No-one believes that self-driving cars will not have accidents.
What is important is that they have less accidents than cars driven by humans.
If they do (and they will) then insurance will be cheaper (probably embedded in subscription for car services) and fewer people will be killed and injured.
You’re right. But I’m not sure anyone believes such an ‘obvious’ accident would happen so soon. I certainly wasn’t. What is important is that they have less accidents than cars driven by humans.
If they do (and they will) then insurance will be cheaper (probably embedded in subscription for car services) and fewer people will be killed and injured.
One would think that hitting someone on a crossing would be a fairly avoidable ‘accident’.
As for those criticising the minder, he or she may not have had much chance. If you’re going to take control every time a hazard is recognised, the system’s never going to be tested.
No consolation for the bereaved, I know.
loafer123 said:
REALIST123 said:
One would think that hitting someone on a crossing would be a fairly avoidable ‘accident’.
BBC News say she was crossing the road, but not on a crossing.REALIST123 said:
No consolation for the bereaved, I know.
Indeed.Apologies, I stand corrected. I heard it on the radio, I thought it was on a crossing.
If someone was driving down the street at night and a pedestrian stepped out right in front of them, from behind a parked car say, chances are they wouldn’t be able to avoid them either.
So the risk is always there. As humans we don’t think about it, except to maybe slow down and move closer to the centre of the road. Programming that for self driving would be interesting: must slow down and leave a 1 metre gap if passing a parked car...what happens if that means crossing a solid centre line, or if there is another car coming the other way doing the same thing and they can’t both fit? Do they both just stop dead and drop in to manual mode? A human takes a calculated risk, a computer will just do what it is programmed to do.
All the developers can do is mitigate the risk as far as possible. It will never go away.
So the risk is always there. As humans we don’t think about it, except to maybe slow down and move closer to the centre of the road. Programming that for self driving would be interesting: must slow down and leave a 1 metre gap if passing a parked car...what happens if that means crossing a solid centre line, or if there is another car coming the other way doing the same thing and they can’t both fit? Do they both just stop dead and drop in to manual mode? A human takes a calculated risk, a computer will just do what it is programmed to do.
All the developers can do is mitigate the risk as far as possible. It will never go away.
Jimmy Recard said:
Do we know if it was a Ford involved in the accident?
Otherwise Ford might get a bit upset at the picture of the Mondeo on the story! It could make it look like Ford's fault
It was a Volvo, same kind that California stopped Uber from testing as they had a penchant for running red lights.Otherwise Ford might get a bit upset at the picture of the Mondeo on the story! It could make it look like Ford's fault
It's not clear how the collision occurred, only that the lady was crossing the road and not using a crossing.
If she'd stepped out, or run out, from between two parked vehicles into the Ubers path, with another vehicle maybe alongside the Uber, what chance would a human driver or observer have?
I'd need a bit more detail before making my mind up.
If she'd stepped out, or run out, from between two parked vehicles into the Ubers path, with another vehicle maybe alongside the Uber, what chance would a human driver or observer have?
I'd need a bit more detail before making my mind up.
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