KTM525 EXC / 450 EXC

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Original Poster:

6,478 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Anyone owned or ridden one ?

scorcher

3,986 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Probably better asking/researching on the www.ktmforum.co.uk

3DP

9,917 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Ridden both, owned a 525 exc - whadya want to know?

jonindorset

1,039 posts

244 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Only ridden the 350 EXC and Freeride 250. Are you pretty tall? Very experienced off-road?

308mate

13,757 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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What will you use it for?

3DP

9,917 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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During the interlude. As stating 525 EXC, guessing you mean the RFS era models of a decade or so ago.

The 525 is a stroked 450 - otherwise the same bike.

They have more torque off the bottom and a beefier mid range - a little more at the top. They are harder to manage in slow stuff, but roost, wheelie and drift better.

I used my 525 for Green Laning and practice enduros. The relaxed nature of the engine meant it was still in fine fettle when I sold it even though it had done double the interval for an engine rebuild that KTM state. It's harder to thrash than the smaller ones as it's a bit of an animal, on and off road.

If you are a noob, not very good, or indeed at the other end of the spectrum - very experienced and very good, it seems the smaller engines are preferable - like the 350cc. If you have a bit of skill and confidence and like riding something that's spinning up, wheelieing in 4th/5th gear and is generally a hoot, but slower overall - the 525 is your bike. If you really want a 450 or 525, with their age now, I'd look at both and buy whichever is in the best condition, with recent rebuild etc. This will matter more ultimately. Both are more physical than the smaller engined bikes, more because of the power/torque than the extra few kg weight in my view.

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Original Poster:

6,478 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Thanks guys / 3DP. My thoughts are with the 525, for the extra torque, etc.
Im looking at 02-05 models.

Is there a larger tank avaialble ? And pannier racks ? And other accessories ?

TypeR

1,123 posts

239 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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I had an 04 450 which I used for green Laning. Too tall for me to get really comfortable on it and I never really 'clicked' with it. I was much happier on a 250 crx although the grunt of the KTM was addictive.

3DP

9,917 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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neutral 3 said:
Thanks guys / 3DP. My thoughts are with the 525, for the extra torque, etc.
Im looking at 02-05 models.

Is there a larger tank avaialble ? And pannier racks ? And other accessories ?
Get the 05 model year if you can. Headlight and chassis update. Came out in mid to late 2004.

You can get see through big tanks for them for a few hundred quid. To be honest though, if you are talking panniers and racks, maybe look at 690R. The EXCs are racing bike so spindly subframe with a bit of plastic covering it. A Rucksack is about all you want/can get. The plastics, tank etc go together like stickle bricks. Zero practicality, or load bearing strength to add accessories to. Essentially they are similar to motocross bikes just with basic lighting, different gear ratios and softer cams.

What are you using it for? If long range explorer/travelling and can't stretch to 690R, look at buying a DRZ400 and modifying it. They are far less stressed and work better in that role once you modify them.

neutral 3

Original Poster:

6,478 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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What is the SX version ?

Steve Bass

10,193 posts

233 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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neutral 3 said:
What is the SX version ?
Motocross version

Judging by the pannier question these might not be the bikes you're looking for.
Gearboxes aren't made for prolonged road use.
They're full on competition bikes after all

aponting389

741 posts

178 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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The motocross version. You don't need that one thumbup

Moulder

1,466 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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These posts might help...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=11...

They second includes a "great post" by someone called Moulder and a bloke called 3doorPete who you never hear of anymore has a speculative punt at providing some information...




Kawasicki

13,083 posts

235 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Rode a 2005 model from 2010 -2013

Trails at the weekend, 100km round trip commute during the week.

I had a right laugh, it was fun to ride and pretty reliable.

bmwmatt24

66 posts

81 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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I currently own a 2009 KTM 450 EXC-R.

I use it purely for fun, green laning and the likes, i've yet to take it on a proper moto x track though.

Anything specific you're wanting to know?

308mate

13,757 posts

222 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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3DP said:
neutral 3 said:
Thanks guys / 3DP. My thoughts are with the 525, for the extra torque, etc.
Im looking at 02-05 models.

Is there a larger tank avaialble ? And pannier racks ? And other accessories ?
Get the 05 model year if you can. Headlight and chassis update. Came out in mid to late 2004.

You can get see through big tanks for them for a few hundred quid. To be honest though, if you are talking panniers and racks, maybe look at 690R. The EXCs are racing bike so spindly subframe with a bit of plastic covering it. A Rucksack is about all you want/can get. The plastics, tank etc go together like stickle bricks. Zero practicality, or load bearing strength to add accessories to. Essentially they are similar to motocross bikes just with basic lighting, different gear ratios and softer cams.

What are you using it for? If long range explorer/travelling and can't stretch to 690R, look at buying a DRZ400 and modifying it. They are far less stressed and work better in that role once you modify them.
Agreed...ish. The use case is starting to point towards a Honda XR650, to me.


Edited by 308mate on Thursday 22 March 15:35

Freakuk

3,148 posts

151 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Had a 450EXC, I'm pretty sure they all use the same chassis just engine size is different and weight varies slightly(couple of kg) per model.

Used it for a couple of years doing enduro's and green laning, only major issue I had was the rectifier decided to go pop and kill the battery but other than that it was rock solid, I don't think you need a 525 or even the 450 it's got more than enough grunt if I'm honest.

Pity it got stolen and abused frown


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Original Poster:

6,478 posts

170 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Want one even more now !

555 Paul

782 posts

149 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I've got a 2003 450 EXC and on supermoto wheels it's excellent fun, I tried riding it on a very muddy enduro a few weeks ago and as a complete newbie I was useless on it, maybe something like a 125 or 250 would have been a better bet.


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Original Poster:

6,478 posts

170 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Were you on those tires Paul, lol.
Looks a nice one!