waiter unhappy with tip

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Macneil

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892 posts

80 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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My colleague was out recently and his party spent £250 in a restaurant in a town full of flashy eateries. The service charge was added to the bill, 10 or 12.5 percent I think. He asked for it to be removed and said he would leave a tip in cash. The waiter removed it and my mate left £10 cash. As he was leaving the restaurant, the waiter accosted him, and asked him why he had only left £10. So predictably he told the guy if he didn't want it would he mind handing it back please?

I think he was a bit tight, I'd have probably left £20, and in fact a couple of weeks ago in a different restaurant our waiter asked before billing if we had any objection to a service charge being added to the bill, and were we happy with the service.

Two completely different attitudes, and the latter resulting in a more generous tip.

HustleRussell

24,690 posts

160 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Impossible to say because you have given us no indication of whether the service was any good.

If the service was acceptable or better then your mate with his tenner and you with your twenty are both tight IMO

037

1,317 posts

147 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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I’d be embarrassed to tell you that story.
Nobody likes a tigharse

paulwirral

3,132 posts

135 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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I leave 5% ,if it's a problem I'll gladly take it back . I detest the already added discretionary ten per cent tip, I can work all day and I'd get laughed off the job if I added ten per cent to my price just for carrying my gear into someone's house

Benbay001

5,794 posts

157 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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A tip is for exceptional service. Not for service your merely happy with.

If the job doesnt pay enough, leave.

bigpriest

1,600 posts

130 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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A tip is held back as an incentive to maintain the best service for the customer. No business should be turning this on its head and saying 'we provide the best service therefore you should pay us a tip in advance'. Cheeky fkers.

OldGermanHeaps

3,828 posts

178 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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I despise the practice of automatically putting a tip on a bill, especially when restraunt owners I find are the absolute worst at paying tradesmen, always late and always trying to pay less than the agreed amount, only really 1 exception so far in dozens of jobs to the point where I dont quote for pubs or restraunts any more.

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Just don't travel to North America!...British are notorious non-tippers here. I would imagine service is not of the best for non-tippers. Personally I quite like the standard service charge. Makes the bill predictable and no problem.

petemurphy

10,119 posts

183 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Id have a word with the restaurant manger you don’t expect to be accosted by the waiter and won’t be eating there again

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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In this case there was a service charge which was clearly displayed before ordering. Customer asked for it to be removed and then left a lower amount. Waiter should not have complained and customer should have paid the service charge in the first place.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

130 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Tipping is stupid, there is no other industry where you go in, and then pay more for something that should be included in the price

No one goes into Tesco and then tips the woman on the till because she went out of her way to get you some bags, it’s all part of the job!

I bet no one tips the man in the shell garage when they pump the fuel for you

How about tipping the man who carried your heavy slabs from B&Q to the car?


sunbeam alpine

6,945 posts

188 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Just to posit an alternative viewpoint - it's an unfortunate fact that a percentage of waiting jobs are so poorly-paid that tips are pretty much essential for some people to survive. Having said that, I would also be disappointed to be approached by a waiter under these circumstances. I don't think I'd raise it with the restaurant though.

Having 2 nieces who are currently waiting tables while looking to start careers (both graduated with upper 2nd degrees this year) has opened my eyes. It's all very well talking about minimum wage and workers rights, but when there are 10 others lining up to take your place, it must be very difficult.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Nickbrapp said:
Tipping is stupid, there is no other industry where you go in, and then pay more for something that should be included in the price
It's spreading.

My haircut place has a 'would you like to add a tip, yes/no' option now on the card machine. tts. It's around £25 for a haircut there, and they have the cheek to want more!

Perhaps stop giving offering free beers/PlayStation and so on, and lower your overheads. (Most people say no to the first, and playstation gathers dust as most people are all on their phones).

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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UK is not the USA the waiting staff get paid. Imo its up to the establishment to pay them a decent wage not have it put on your bill separately.

Its completely random who gets tipped and who doesn't too. Stupid system.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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Title needs changing to "Tight git gets pissed off when someone highlights what he is"

£250 means a few people, so a fair bit of work to do for the waiter, but hey fk him, your mate only left a tenner because it shows who's more important and he wanted the waiter to feel subservient

there are some real tts in the world nowadays

Scabutz

7,600 posts

80 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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I was a waiter years ago when I was at college. Tips were nice, but never expected. Just more beer money.

Not getting a tip I would just assume that person doesnt tip. Getting a really st tip like the one in the OP was fking annoying. Because it says I do tip, I'm not against it, but this is what I think you're worth. It's not being tight, proper tight fkers never tip. It's an insult and a way of making people feel above others. Here you are peasant, some lose change, buy yourself something nice.

h0b0

7,590 posts

196 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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In car terms, the quote included the labor and the OPs mate decided not to pay it.


Olivera

7,131 posts

239 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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petemurphy said:
Id have a word with the restaurant manger you don’t expect to be accosted by the waiter and won’t be eating there again
I'd fully expect and understand the manager telling you to get fked due to such skinflintery.

tannhauser

1,773 posts

215 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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sunbeam alpine said:
Just to posit an alternative viewpoint - it's an unfortunate fact that a percentage of waiting jobs are so poorly-paid that tips are pretty much essential for some people to survive.
Cry me a fking river - many jobs are poorly paid, minimum wage etc! Yet many of those workers aren't "entitled" to tips!

roadsmash

2,622 posts

70 months

Sunday 11th August 2019
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I always tip (generously), providing its deserved.

I think it’s bullst, but I still do it.