waiter unhappy with tip
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CustardOnChips said:
Ascayman said:
Question for the tight arses. Assuming you have friends what happens when you are out for a meal with them? do you expect them to pick up the tip? or do you just make sure you only dine out with other tight people?
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
Not sure what charity work has to do with anything you can still do that and pay your own way they aren't mutually exclusive.
CustardOnChips said:
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!
Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
i assume they will all set up a patreon account so that the webmasters of pistonheads can be tipped as the website has worked perfectly throughout all this and they should be rewarded..Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
petemurphy said:
CustardOnChips said:
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!
Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
i assume they will all set up a patreon account so that the webmasters of pistonheads can be tipped as the website has worked perfectly throughout all this and they should be rewarded..Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
Considering that we're a commodity to PH rather than a customer I don't know if tipping is still customary
.GT03ROB said:
The Mad Monk said:
GT03ROB said:
Lemming Train said:
DickyC said:
As a rule I tip in restaurants. On one occasion, reading from the menu, I asked the waiter what the Soup du Jour was. He replied, "It's the soup of the day." No gratuity was forthcoming.
Brilliant! I'd have tipped him purely for the comedy, especially if he'd said it with a completely straight face.I really don't understand why you think the waiter was so clever.
He was asked "what is the Soup du Jour? Not - what does that phrase mean!
… for me it was a good chuckle on a dull day. 
keirik said:
Title needs changing to "Tight git gets pissed off when someone highlights what he is"
£250 means a few people, so a fair bit of work to do for the waiter, but hey f
k him, your mate only left a tenner because it shows who's more important and he wanted the waiter to feel subservient
there are some real tts in the world nowadays
I disagree.£250 means a few people, so a fair bit of work to do for the waiter, but hey f
k him, your mate only left a tenner because it shows who's more important and he wanted the waiter to feel subservientthere are some real t
ts in the world nowadaysWe've just come back from a family holiday in France/Spain with a total of 3 adults & 5 kids, but with all the kids eating from the adult menus, just not having alcohol.
We ate out loads, and the average bill was around €100-120 for eight of us, with absolutely no expectation from any of the waiting staff that a tip would be left, and excellent service everywhere we went.
When we're eating out here in the UK, it's quite a struggle to come in under £100 when it's just me, my wife and 3 kids, and on top of that, the grasping f
kers expect a 10-15% tip????We already have some of the most expensive restaurant prices in Europe. There's absolutely no justification for adding a tip on top unless the service has been absolutely outstanding, and if anything the waiter will have done less work, as if he didn't have a larger party in, he'd have been dealing with multiple smaller tables each requiring separate interactions.
Ascayman said:
CustardOnChips said:
Ascayman said:
Question for the tight arses. Assuming you have friends what happens when you are out for a meal with them? do you expect them to pick up the tip? or do you just make sure you only dine out with other tight people?
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
Not sure what charity work has to do with anything you can still do that and pay your own way they aren't mutually exclusive.
Do you say sorry here is my £45 - you sort out whatever tip you want I'm not involved?
If so, have you ever been out with the same couple more than once?
Genuinely curious.
Lemming Train said:
DickyC said:
As a rule I tip in restaurants. On one occasion, reading from the menu, I asked the waiter what the Soup du Jour was. He replied, "It's the soup of the day." No gratuity was forthcoming.
Brilliant! I'd have tipped him purely for the comedy, especially if he'd said it with a completely straight face.There seems to be some not very nice people on this thread.
sas62 said:
Ascayman said:
CustardOnChips said:
Ascayman said:
Question for the tight arses. Assuming you have friends what happens when you are out for a meal with them? do you expect them to pick up the tip? or do you just make sure you only dine out with other tight people?
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
Not sure what charity work has to do with anything you can still do that and pay your own way they aren't mutually exclusive.
Do you say sorry here is my £45 - you sort out whatever tip you want I'm not involved?
If so, have you ever been out with the same couple more than once?
Genuinely curious.
sas62 said:
Not sure this has been adequately investigated. Say you're out with another couple (I'll assume you have a partner). you get a bill for £90 for the 4 of you. The other couple say (as is pretty normal) £50 each ok to cover the tip.?
Do you say sorry here is my £45 - you sort out whatever tip you want I'm not involved?
If so, have you ever been out with the same couple more than once?
Genuinely curious.
Only happened me once. I just covered the tip for the other couple by quietly slipping some cash to the waiter. Did not dine with them again. Do you say sorry here is my £45 - you sort out whatever tip you want I'm not involved?
If so, have you ever been out with the same couple more than once?
Genuinely curious.
CustardOnChips said:
Ascayman said:
Question for the tight arses. Assuming you have friends what happens when you are out for a meal with them? do you expect them to pick up the tip? or do you just make sure you only dine out with other tight people?
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. That seems to be a common trait amongst tight people. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.Llike other non-tippers, you make this assertion with no evidence to support it.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others. No smugness there, no siree!
Roman Rhodes said:
CustardOnChips said:
Ascayman said:
Question for the tight arses. Assuming you have friends what happens when you are out for a meal with them? do you expect them to pick up the tip? or do you just make sure you only dine out with other tight people?
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. That seems to be a common trait amongst tight people. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.Llike other non-tippers, you make this assertion with no evidence to support it.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others. No smugness there, no siree!
Can't understand simple English, can't understand that other people are allowed an alternative point of view, and seems to think everybody is 'tight'.
You must be all fun and games to be with [said nobody at all, ever]
Keep going, we need a laugh.
Robertj21a said:
Roman Rhodes said:
CustardOnChips said:
Ascayman said:
Question for the tight arses. Assuming you have friends what happens when you are out for a meal with them? do you expect them to pick up the tip? or do you just make sure you only dine out with other tight people?
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. That seems to be a common trait amongst tight people. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.Llike other non-tippers, you make this assertion with no evidence to support it.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others. No smugness there, no siree!
Can't understand simple English, can't understand that other people are allowed an alternative point of view, and seems to think everybody is 'tight'.
You must be all fun and games to be with [said nobody at all, ever]
Keep going, we need a laugh.
What makes you think I think "everyone is tight"? I think non-tippers are tight - not everyone. Surely even you can understand that? Of course people are allowed alternative points of view - if they don't ever tip that is up to them. They're still tight though.
Maybe 'non-tippers' would like to order a meal with drinks and can't afford to give an hourly paid waiter a tip?
What if the diners are on NMW themselves and are treating themselves to a rare night out? Should they stay in because they can't afford the tip. Would the owner prefer this knowing it's detrimental to their business? Would the waiter prefer this knowing knowing the diners can't afford it?
Not wanting to hand over unnecessary money does not make one 'tight'.
For what it's worth, I prefer not to tip, but I will frequently round it up and leave notes - say £30 if the bill is £28-29. If I pay by card then I do not leave a tip.
I am not a PBCD and don't see why I should top up someone else's wages.
What if the diners are on NMW themselves and are treating themselves to a rare night out? Should they stay in because they can't afford the tip. Would the owner prefer this knowing it's detrimental to their business? Would the waiter prefer this knowing knowing the diners can't afford it?
Not wanting to hand over unnecessary money does not make one 'tight'.
For what it's worth, I prefer not to tip, but I will frequently round it up and leave notes - say £30 if the bill is £28-29. If I pay by card then I do not leave a tip.
I am not a PBCD and don't see why I should top up someone else's wages.
Ascayman said:
sas62 said:
Ascayman said:
CustardOnChips said:
Ascayman said:
Question for the tight arses. Assuming you have friends what happens when you are out for a meal with them? do you expect them to pick up the tip? or do you just make sure you only dine out with other tight people?
If they want to leave a tip, that is entirely up to them!Still don't see how not tipping in a restaurant is being tight. Somone is being paid to do a job. They should do it well without the exception of a tip.
But you carry on tipping. Bask in the self gratifying smugness, that leaving small change to a poor underclass server gives you.
I'll carry on giving up many hours a week of my free time to help others.
Not sure what charity work has to do with anything you can still do that and pay your own way they aren't mutually exclusive.
Do you say sorry here is my £45 - you sort out whatever tip you want I'm not involved?
If so, have you ever been out with the same couple more than once?
Genuinely curious.
We have added 10% to our cost on card but the other couples have not and we have ended up throwing additional cash to cover.
That was annoying.
I find splitting bills the most annoying part of meals with groups.
Generally with our lads we just split it 4 ways unless someone has a 15 quid more expensive meal , we don't care about a few quid here and there
But with my Mrs and her friends and family , they send the reciept round the table! Absolutely infuriating what people would do to save a few quid....
By the way with regards to cost in restaurants as mentioned above yes Uk is high as is most of Europe but so are living costs.
In South Africa you can get a starter, fillet steak and drink at a nice restaurant for around 7 quid.
But remember the server who is working get's very little money. Some actually have no salary and live purely on tips. Infact it was only earlier this year a minimum wage was introduced, however it is only pounds per day.
So I think cost of meals are generally in line with average income and wages.
This seems a little contradictory, it says in the UK 10% is normally given for good service.
However etiquette expert William Hanson said in Europe tips should only really be given if the server ‘has gone above and beyond’ and in the case of poor service, no extra money should be handed over. But does not say what you should give if the service was average.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/21/british-tourist-cha...
However etiquette expert William Hanson said in Europe tips should only really be given if the server ‘has gone above and beyond’ and in the case of poor service, no extra money should be handed over. But does not say what you should give if the service was average.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/21/british-tourist-cha...
xjay1337 said:
Well I've had situations where a 10% tip is expected (SA).
We have added 10% to our cost on card but the other couples have not and we have ended up throwing additional cash to cover.
That was annoying.
I find splitting bills the most annoying part of meals with groups.
Generally with our lads we just split it 4 ways unless someone has a 15 quid more expensive meal , we don't care about a few quid here and there
But with my Mrs and her friends and family , they send the reciept round the table! Absolutely infuriating what people would do to save a few quid....
By the way with regards to cost in restaurants as mentioned above yes Uk is high as is most of Europe but so are living costs.
In South Africa you can get a starter, fillet steak and drink at a nice restaurant for around 7 quid.
But remember the server who is working get's very little money. Some actually have no salary and live purely on tips. Infact it was only earlier this year a minimum wage was introduced, however it is only pounds per day.
So I think cost of meals are generally in line with average income and wages.
I'd hazard a guess that the non tippers and the non bill spliters are the same people. Tight is as tight does.. We have added 10% to our cost on card but the other couples have not and we have ended up throwing additional cash to cover.
That was annoying.
I find splitting bills the most annoying part of meals with groups.
Generally with our lads we just split it 4 ways unless someone has a 15 quid more expensive meal , we don't care about a few quid here and there
But with my Mrs and her friends and family , they send the reciept round the table! Absolutely infuriating what people would do to save a few quid....
By the way with regards to cost in restaurants as mentioned above yes Uk is high as is most of Europe but so are living costs.
In South Africa you can get a starter, fillet steak and drink at a nice restaurant for around 7 quid.
But remember the server who is working get's very little money. Some actually have no salary and live purely on tips. Infact it was only earlier this year a minimum wage was introduced, however it is only pounds per day.
So I think cost of meals are generally in line with average income and wages.
Eitherway life is to short to spend it with mean people, thankfully i don't come across it often.
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