Discussion
Some rather insulting stuff as usual on here.
but in every time I have used those tills I have experienced issues, at numerous supermarkets. SO I don't use them anymore. I will probably have to eventually.
And don't patronise by saying I don't know what I am doing please, that is rude, basic and rather insulting, but sadly expected aswell I guess here.
Having worked in retail for many years, there are temp workers ties, but during the day those guys will be there years. So again please dont patronise, I am not stupid, i just have a very different view to a lot of things to the easily pleased and "its all about you" my life is far too busy to do anything else norm.
but in every time I have used those tills I have experienced issues, at numerous supermarkets. SO I don't use them anymore. I will probably have to eventually.
And don't patronise by saying I don't know what I am doing please, that is rude, basic and rather insulting, but sadly expected aswell I guess here.
Having worked in retail for many years, there are temp workers ties, but during the day those guys will be there years. So again please dont patronise, I am not stupid, i just have a very different view to a lot of things to the easily pleased and "its all about you" my life is far too busy to do anything else norm.
LukeBrown66 said:
but in every time I have used those tills I have experienced issues, at numerous supermarkets. SO I don't use them anymore. I will probably have to eventually.
And don't patronise by saying I don't know what I am doing please, that is rude, basic and rather insulting, but sadly expected aswell I guess here.
Perhaps if you keep having issues and other people don't maybe it's all about you.And don't patronise by saying I don't know what I am doing please, that is rude, basic and rather insulting, but sadly expected aswell I guess here.
If you think I'm being rude perhaps you should read how your posts come across, people in glass houses and all that
Cotty said:
The people smoke though those self service tills, they use them every day to ring up their lunch and apart from the odd creased barcode no issues. They know how to use them as they use them every day, its quicker, easier and they don't have to engage in any conversation. In out bish bash bosh
That's different, as it's people buying a sandwich and a drink so the till will be fine. Large baskets increase the probability of the red light flashing.Exactly, I am talking about doing a weekly shop in there, so maybe 50 or so items. I dont think I have ever not encountered an issue.
Regarding my tone, well it is frustration, people cannot seem to see the big picture when it comes to time saving apps, they only think about themselves, and this attitude is pervading more and more into society.
I get it, but it does have fairly serious consequences further down the line, and most people don't seem to think that far down any lines! And even worse don't care.
As I say it is about the now, the me, the time saving.
Regarding my tone, well it is frustration, people cannot seem to see the big picture when it comes to time saving apps, they only think about themselves, and this attitude is pervading more and more into society.
I get it, but it does have fairly serious consequences further down the line, and most people don't seem to think that far down any lines! And even worse don't care.
As I say it is about the now, the me, the time saving.
LukeBrown66 said:
I get it, but it does have fairly serious consequences further down the line, and most people don't seem to think that far down any lines! And even worse don't care.
Such as? How does any of this have any more “serious consequences” than any other change in the past? You appear to be engaging with the internet. That’s a rather huge change in the last 30 years that had had far more serious consequences when used incorrectly than online shopping, food ordering or self service shopping?
The point is that you have obviously adopted some modern technology or you wouldn’t be here and you would be running a pre war car with a start handle. People accept change and adopt new things based on the answer to the question “what’s in it for me?” And when something new adds value in some way to their life. The answer to those two things is different for everyone.
So in conclusion this thread is -
LukeBrown doesn’t like certain societal changes
Other people do
The thing is though nobody is being forced to use any of the stuff you are rallying against. If you don’t want to because the “what’s in it for me?” Answer isn’t for you then don’t. It would be very boring if everyone was the same but at the same time coming into a modern technology provided platform to shout loudly that you don’t like it at people that do is always going to end badly
I've never used just eat/deliveroo. With the exception of pizza I've also never ordered takeaway for delivery, I've always done a collection order. It's quicker and cheaper. Plus if you pay in lots of coins the owner approves. you build a rapport. I'm not lazy, i'm happy to cycle 1-2 miles up the road to pick up my order. Why wait 45-60min for chinese to arrive at your door when it'll be ready in 10minutes and is <3min up the road.
LukeBrown66 said:
Simply put
I have used these things more than a few times, followed the instructions perfectly and each and every time, (unless you are only buying a handful of items) the machine stops, you have to get an assistant, usually a barcode is wrong, or missing, or something touches the scale which then sends it doolally, so much so that having tried a few times I simply went back to the other, traditional method. And that is the experience the vast majority of people I know have too, which is why lots of them dont use them, so maybe it's where I live! But I suspect it is people just being clever as a reply.
the old way was faster, less hassle and you often get a nice chat with someone on the checkout, Oh and talk to the ladies or men who do it, they prefer it and they can see what is happening to their futures possibly, A staff of say 150, reduced to 100, simply because of profit. And after the monumental profits these b
ds made in the early pandemic days, is that not just a bit excessive, the crap these women and men had to deal with on a daily basis, ask them, Oh hang on, you guys all do self service so never get chance to find that stuff out lol!
I am aware my views are not progressive, maybe even backward, but I am not stupid, I know why these time saving apps and schemes are done, but really, the question has to be, are you sure that your time really IS that valuable that it overtakes every other consideration, jobs, space, traffic, pollution.
I know the answer, "Its all about you".
I think a pattern is emerging.....I have used these things more than a few times, followed the instructions perfectly and each and every time, (unless you are only buying a handful of items) the machine stops, you have to get an assistant, usually a barcode is wrong, or missing, or something touches the scale which then sends it doolally, so much so that having tried a few times I simply went back to the other, traditional method. And that is the experience the vast majority of people I know have too, which is why lots of them dont use them, so maybe it's where I live! But I suspect it is people just being clever as a reply.
the old way was faster, less hassle and you often get a nice chat with someone on the checkout, Oh and talk to the ladies or men who do it, they prefer it and they can see what is happening to their futures possibly, A staff of say 150, reduced to 100, simply because of profit. And after the monumental profits these b
ds made in the early pandemic days, is that not just a bit excessive, the crap these women and men had to deal with on a daily basis, ask them, Oh hang on, you guys all do self service so never get chance to find that stuff out lol!I am aware my views are not progressive, maybe even backward, but I am not stupid, I know why these time saving apps and schemes are done, but really, the question has to be, are you sure that your time really IS that valuable that it overtakes every other consideration, jobs, space, traffic, pollution.
I know the answer, "Its all about you".
"You often get a nice chat with the person on the checkout". They are there to work, you are there to shop. You say the old fashioned way is quicker. It categorically isn't, and there is nothing more frustrating that being in the checkout queue when a customer is trying to chat to the cashier.
You've use these machines a few times and encountered problems. Millions use them every day with minimal issues. You don't need to 'go and get an assistant', there is one manning the tills, correcting issues immediately. Something not scanning every now and again is expected and fixed immediately, it's quicker and much more efficient, and stops people queuing behind slow packers and people trying to chat up the cashier.
It's not that our time is so precious we can't afford to go back to the old methods. We just don't want to when quick, cheap, convenient and better options are now available.
And again, back to the original point.
It's a shame Just Eat are squeezing takeaways. However they provide a brilliant, convenient, quick, reliable, cashless service and the customers love it.
ambuletz said:
I've never used just eat/deliveroo. With the exception of pizza I've also never ordered takeaway for delivery, I've always done a collection order. It's quicker and cheaper. Plus if you pay in lots of coins the owner approves. you build a rapport. I'm not lazy, i'm happy to cycle 1-2 miles up the road to pick up my order. Why wait 45-60min for chinese to arrive at your door when it'll be ready in 10minutes and is <3min up the road.
Because some people cant be bothered going out.Some might have a newborn baby.
Some may feel unsafe.
Some may not carry coins.
Some don't live close to their takeaway.
Some might want to try other places further out.
Some may have a 50% off 'UberEats' offer, making it cheaper.
It's great that you go directly to yours. And I'll often walk to the ones close to me, and use apps for ones further out.
I just don't get people who are confused as to why people like using the online apps.
Lol its not confusion, that misses the point.
I get it, I really do
What people don't seem to get is that all this has a downside, and its alright saying "that' capitalism", but the downside to all progress is always there, no matter if it affects you or not.
Personally I would like to see towns busier, they don't help themselves with green stuff and parking, that drives people to online, that drives huge trucks and vans onto the road, hideous distribution centres everywhere full of people doing awful, dire jobs all things that are never likely to be fully green, it drives net usage through the roof, anyone noticed how massively expensive that is now that EVERYONE has to use it, funny that.
it is progress in one way, but not in EVERY way.
I get it, I really do
What people don't seem to get is that all this has a downside, and its alright saying "that' capitalism", but the downside to all progress is always there, no matter if it affects you or not.
Personally I would like to see towns busier, they don't help themselves with green stuff and parking, that drives people to online, that drives huge trucks and vans onto the road, hideous distribution centres everywhere full of people doing awful, dire jobs all things that are never likely to be fully green, it drives net usage through the roof, anyone noticed how massively expensive that is now that EVERYONE has to use it, funny that.
it is progress in one way, but not in EVERY way.
LukeBrown66 said:
Personally I would like to see towns busier, they don't help themselves with green stuff and parking, that drives people to online, that drives huge trucks and vans onto the road, hideous distribution centres everywhere full of people doing awful, dire jobs all things that are never likely to be fully green, it drives net usage through the roof, anyone noticed how massively expensive that is now that EVERYONE has to use it, funny that.
Surely it’s just a shift in the jobs and in distribution? The “awful dire jobs” that were in shops are now in Amazon warehouses and the big trucks going to all those shops day in day out are now just smaller trucks going to peoples houses? Like I’ve said many times on this thread jobs change or should we all be in the fields, down the mines and in the mills still? Have you got any evidence to suggest that it’s any less green?Also the cost of internet connectivity is cheaper now than it has ever been I can’t see where you’re going with that one. If you really don’t want to pay for internet then go into one of those things called shops you like so much and use the free access.
It is not cheap at all. 30 plus quid a month is not cheap, it is dearer than a water bill. And it was NEVER that expensive until it became as popular as it is, it is exploitation as usual.
It goes up every single year (after your initial deal) meaning now, (not always the case years ago) like car/house/pet insurance you have to negotiate every year to get a better deal, we were not asked about this, they just did it and tied you into an automatic bill increase without your say.
It is quick in places, but in some places it is woeful and for the new generation, it is something that needs sorting. And if you live in a place with crap internet, funnily enough it costs the same as 100 meg, that is shambolic. But it shows what they are doing, treating everyone like dirt and milking money for old rope.
It goes up every single year (after your initial deal) meaning now, (not always the case years ago) like car/house/pet insurance you have to negotiate every year to get a better deal, we were not asked about this, they just did it and tied you into an automatic bill increase without your say.
It is quick in places, but in some places it is woeful and for the new generation, it is something that needs sorting. And if you live in a place with crap internet, funnily enough it costs the same as 100 meg, that is shambolic. But it shows what they are doing, treating everyone like dirt and milking money for old rope.
Edited by LukeBrown66 on Sunday 20th June 11:08
LukeBrown66 said:
It is not cheap at all. 30 plus quid a month is not cheap, it is dearer than a water bill. And it was NEVER that expensive until it became as popular as it is, it is exploitation as usual.
It goes up every single year (after your initial deal) meaning now, (not always the case years ago) like car/house/pet insurance you have to negotiate every year to get a better deal, we were not asked about this, they just did it and tied you into an automatic bill increase without your say.
It is quick in places, but in some places it is woeful and for the new generation, it is something that needs sorting. And if you live in a place with crap internet, funnily enough it costs the same as 100 meg, that is shambolic. But it shows what they are doing, treating everyone like dirt and milking money for old rope.
I knew people paying £25 a month for email alone over 30 years ago, and I wish my water bill was only £30 a month.It goes up every single year (after your initial deal) meaning now, (not always the case years ago) like car/house/pet insurance you have to negotiate every year to get a better deal, we were not asked about this, they just did it and tied you into an automatic bill increase without your say.
It is quick in places, but in some places it is woeful and for the new generation, it is something that needs sorting. And if you live in a place with crap internet, funnily enough it costs the same as 100 meg, that is shambolic. But it shows what they are doing, treating everyone like dirt and milking money for old rope.
There really is no fun to be had in this thread, can't we all agree that there are some of us that like to help local businesses however we can, and some of us who are terminally lazy and terrified of human contact and draw a line under it?
Let's go slag off someone's breakfast choices instead.
Let's go slag off someone's breakfast choices instead.
Bacon Is Proof said:
There really is no fun to be had in this thread, can't we all agree that there are some of us that like to help local businesses however we can, and some of us who are terminally lazy and terrified of human contact and draw a line under it?
and some that don't like getting their car damaged in the supermarket car park. Bacon Is Proof said:
There really is no fun to be had in this thread, can't we all agree that there are some of us that like to help local businesses however we can, and some of us who are terminally lazy and terrified of human contact and draw a line under it?
Let's go slag off someone's breakfast choices instead.
Agreed this thread is done. Now how about black pudding as the healthy choice Let's go slag off someone's breakfast choices instead.
I wonder if they deliver Another offer in my inbox.
They are all desperate for market share, but the customer is just becoming accustomed to choosing whichever is offering a deal on the day they want to order. There is no loyalty.
Made worse as the same delivery guy never comes twice, so no relationship there, nor any indication of consistent delivery service levels.
But at least they aren't as bad as online whey protein suppliers ...yet.
They are all desperate for market share, but the customer is just becoming accustomed to choosing whichever is offering a deal on the day they want to order. There is no loyalty.
Made worse as the same delivery guy never comes twice, so no relationship there, nor any indication of consistent delivery service levels.
But at least they aren't as bad as online whey protein suppliers ...yet.
Gassing Station | Food, Drink & Restaurants | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff