Older singers that still have it.

Older singers that still have it.

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luckyal

188 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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I saw Van Morrison last week for the 2nd year running and he definitely still has it, strong powerful vocals that sound like those of his heyday.

Sadly on the same bill was Robert Plant who was entertaining and would always get a pass because of LZ, but the voice was 50% of the old one.

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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luckyal said:
I saw Van Morrison last week for the 2nd year running and he definitely still has it, strong powerful vocals that sound like those of his heyday.

Sadly on the same bill was Robert Plant who was entertaining and would always get a pass because of LZ, but the voice was 50% of the old one.
Strangely someone else said how good RP was.
Frankly, I'd crawl a mile over broken glass to get away from Van Morrison. Absolutely awful middle aged middle class Guardian reader music.
Not IMHO, it's a fact.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Johnspex said:
luckyal said:
I saw Van Morrison last week for the 2nd year running and he definitely still has it, strong powerful vocals that sound like those of his heyday.

Sadly on the same bill was Robert Plant who was entertaining and would always get a pass because of LZ, but the voice was 50% of the old one.
Strangely someone else said how good RP was.
Frankly, I'd crawl a mile over broken glass to get away from Van Morrison. Absolutely awful middle aged middle class Guardian reader music.
Not IMHO, it's a fact.
So what if it is? I don't care at all for Billy Bragg's politics for example, but I love his music and his shows.

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,556 posts

212 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Saw TC&I at the Swindon Arts Centre last night - it's Terry Chambers and Colin Moulding who were 50% of XTC back in the day. Despite it being their first public gigs in 36 years, Colin's voice is pretty much unchanged and sounded just like the vinyl of my youth.

luckyal

188 posts

183 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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I'm a 48 year old, extremely occasional Mail reader (yes, I know!) so I don't disagree on some of the tunes but to be fair it was Bluesfest so 2/3rds were blues classics rather than VM's + it was only a comment on the voice really.

I went into RP expecting it as I'd read an interview where he'd said as much, but also that it got better as he warmed up which was undoubtedly true. He gave it 100% though


tomble22

598 posts

128 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Mr_Yogi said:
Contentious one here but I’d say Bono. Saw U2 at the O2 on Tuesday and I was really surprised how great they sounded including Bono’s voice. I was a bit dubious after seeing their Glastonbury set a few years ago, although their Abbey Road gig for the BBC did give me some hope. But I was very pleasantly surprised, great vocals.
Agreed. Saw them last year @ Twickenham and his voice was the best I've heard out of the 4 times i've seen them live. Real depth to his voice that wasn't there before.

CardinalFang

640 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Johnspex said:
JE died in 2002 and I don't think he ever sang falsetto. It's Entwistle by the way. I think you either have no idea what you're talking about or you're mistaking Pete Townshend for John Entwistle which also,suggests you have no idea what you're talking about.
In summary, JE is dead, you think he sang falsetto, you're probably mistaking Pete. Townshend for him.
Roger Daltrey is 74. That's pretty old for a guy to be singing like that.
Don't like it? Don't go. Personally I'd crawl a mile over broken glass to hear one of the greatest rock singers .
Correct - my mistake - Townsend, not Entwistle, sorry.

That aside, I've been to more than 300 gigs, played three instruments in the past (to varying standards admittedly), been in bands, toured abroad, recorded, supported a well known TV presenter & appeared on TV. ( All many decades ago, it has to be said) I also come from a very musical family & am not tone deaf - my father was a band leader (WW2 big band jazz group) who played 4 instruments to a high semi-pro standard, wrote & arranged for his band and mine, my sister is a singer & still performs amateur madrigals/musicals so I rather think I do know what I'm talking about and can spot someone failing to perform as he did in his youth. Which is fair enough - I can't either. They'd been on my "to see before they stop touring/break up again/die" so I jumped at the chance. Their back catalogue is truly amazing: one of the greatest of any group from this country, but the weak link was unfortunately Daltrey. I'd agree he HAD one of the classic rock voices, & is one of the greatest front men ever, but unless it was a one off/illness his voice has nowhere near the range it has.

TLDR: You're right, I didn't like it & wouldnt go again, but am pleased I had the chance. It doesn't alter my view of his & their place in the pantheon.

CF

V8covin

7,297 posts

193 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Yetski said:
Roger Daltry
Never in a million years,he can barely hold a note

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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CardinalFang said:
Johnspex said:
JE died in 2002 and I don't think he ever sang falsetto. It's Entwistle by the way. I think you either have no idea what you're talking about or you're mistaking Pete Townshend for John Entwistle which also,suggests you have no idea what you're talking about.
In summary, JE is dead, you think he sang falsetto, you're probably mistaking Pete. Townshend for him.
Roger Daltrey is 74. That's pretty old for a guy to be singing like that.
Don't like it? Don't go. Personally I'd crawl a mile over broken glass to hear one of the greatest rock singers .
Correct - my mistake - Townsend, not Entwistle, sorry.

That aside, I've been to more than 300 gigs, played three instruments in the past (to varying standards admittedly), been in bands, toured abroad, recorded, supported a well known TV presenter & appeared on TV. ( All many decades ago, it has to be said) I also come from a very musical family & am not tone deaf - my father was a band leader (WW2 big band jazz group) who played 4 instruments to a high semi-pro standard, wrote & arranged for his band and mine, my sister is a singer & still performs amateur madrigals/musicals so I rather think I do know what I'm talking about and can spot someone failing to perform as he did in his youth. Which is fair enough - I can't either. They'd been on my "to see before they stop touring/break up again/die" so I jumped at the chance. Their back catalogue is truly amazing: one of the greatest of any group from this country, but the weak link was unfortunately Daltrey. I'd agree he HAD one of the classic rock voices, & is one of the greatest front men ever, but unless it was a one off/illness his voice has nowhere near the range it has.

TLDR: You're right, I didn't like it & wouldnt go again, but am pleased I had the chance. It doesn't alter my view of his & their place in the pantheon.

CF
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Townshend not Townsend.

Black can man

31,833 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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I'm no of George McCrae bur he was fantastic on Jools's Hootenanny last new years eve,




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7PH_XU2vw&li...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 1st November 2018
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Johnspex said:
Strangely someone else said how good RP was.
About 45 years ago.

spyder dryver

1,329 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Christopher Cross

V8covin

7,297 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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I was thinking of going to see Graham Bonnet recently but before I coughed up for a ticket I checked him out on YouTube doing a recent live gig.
It didn't make for pleasant listening.
I didn't buy a ticket

blueg33

35,808 posts

224 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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James Dean Bradfield. Nearly 50 but still sounds pretty much as he did years ago.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

151 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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blueg33 said:
James Dean Bradfield. Nearly 50 but still sounds pretty much as he did years ago.
50 is the new 30, dude.

(Says I knocking on 50 shortly...)

nitrodave

1,262 posts

138 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Rolling Stones... saw them a few years ago in Hyde Park and they were epic.


JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Elkie Brooks

"Pearl's a singer
She stands up when she's taking a piss
In a nightclub..."

AdeTuono

7,251 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Ian Gillan for me. Was always head & shoulders above the others of his type. Admittedly he doesn't hit the highs that he used to, but knows his limitations and doesn't attempt the range that he did back in the day.

For those who cite Bono, I'd contend that he set a very low standard, and failed to maintain it.

blueg33

35,808 posts

224 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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ElectricSoup said:
blueg33 said:
James Dean Bradfield. Nearly 50 but still sounds pretty much as he did years ago.
50 is the new 30, dude.

(Says I knocking on 50 shortly...)
I know I am 33 wink

paulguitar

23,289 posts

113 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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nitrodave said:
Rolling Stones... saw them a few years ago in Hyde Park and they were epic.
With the best will in the world, Jagger has never really been a proper singer though.