The EDM/IDM/Breakcore/Hardcore/Jungle/Acid/Rave/etc thread
Discussion
Just over ten years ago, in a forum far far away (before the older version of this forum was archived) I started a thread called "Old school rave you appreciate even today".
There doesn't seem to be an equivalent now, so I thought, lets have a new one. I've opened the genres up a bit too. Hip Hop is also welcome if it's on the harder/Britcore side. I would even include Bjork in some of the genres, so there will be other artists not initially related too. Post them!
Photos of vinyl, CDs, memorabilia, flyers, all welcome, especially if rare.
Keep it clean - that doesn't mean you can't post Aphex's Milkman or Venetian Snares' Welfare Wednesday - just don't dismiss others' taste, please
I'll start with Human Being, The Box Opened, because I am a Cotton and it was my last post on the old thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96c4OEe-yI
Some Snares, Aaron2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZe3s39xtoY
One of my favourite videos (official or not) is The Tuss/Aphex's Rushup I Bank 12:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBwUJMZNOgQ
It took me a few listens to fully appreciate Aphex's T69 Collapse, as it usually does, but I can't imagine the work that went into the video. You can hear the earlier Tuss influence, even from the track I posted above (epilepsy warning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqayDnQ2wmw
Over to you?
There doesn't seem to be an equivalent now, so I thought, lets have a new one. I've opened the genres up a bit too. Hip Hop is also welcome if it's on the harder/Britcore side. I would even include Bjork in some of the genres, so there will be other artists not initially related too. Post them!
Photos of vinyl, CDs, memorabilia, flyers, all welcome, especially if rare.
Keep it clean - that doesn't mean you can't post Aphex's Milkman or Venetian Snares' Welfare Wednesday - just don't dismiss others' taste, please
I'll start with Human Being, The Box Opened, because I am a Cotton and it was my last post on the old thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96c4OEe-yI
Some Snares, Aaron2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZe3s39xtoY
One of my favourite videos (official or not) is The Tuss/Aphex's Rushup I Bank 12:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBwUJMZNOgQ
It took me a few listens to fully appreciate Aphex's T69 Collapse, as it usually does, but I can't imagine the work that went into the video. You can hear the earlier Tuss influence, even from the track I posted above (epilepsy warning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqayDnQ2wmw
Over to you?
Never really did clubs (aoart from the 414 in Brixton) but loved the London acid techno free party scene from about1995-2003.
The Liberators would always get the place rocking, this CD captured the depth of sound pretty well:
https://youtu.be/XX0gNTB93GQ
As did this pretty rare mix CD
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf8K76uDeso
Raw, Stay Up Forever, Cluster & Routemaster were the labels that rocked my boat at the weekend looking like this ----->
The Liberators would always get the place rocking, this CD captured the depth of sound pretty well:
https://youtu.be/XX0gNTB93GQ
As did this pretty rare mix CD
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf8K76uDeso
Raw, Stay Up Forever, Cluster & Routemaster were the labels that rocked my boat at the weekend looking like this ----->
vixen1700 said:
Never really did clubs (aoart from the 414 in Brixton)
I ended up at 414 last year after a night at Phonox, didn't realise places like that existed.Proper euro trance and people throwing shapes all over the place.
Didn't stay long I will be honest, but I am more techno and industrial based rather than trance, everyone there was enjoying it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AH_5OyCsco
Liberators mix of 1995 acid techno tunes. The sound of Hackney!
Liberators mix of 1995 acid techno tunes. The sound of Hackney!
joshleb said:
I ended up at 414 last year after a night at Phonox, didn't realise places like that existed.
Proper euro trance and people throwing shapes all over the place.
Didn't stay long I will be honest, but I am more techno and industrial based rather than trance, everyone there was enjoying it.
Well back in the day they had a night called the Nuclear Free Zone, it rocked with great techno and had a brilliant vibe. Proper euro trance and people throwing shapes all over the place.
Didn't stay long I will be honest, but I am more techno and industrial based rather than trance, everyone there was enjoying it.
JulianHJ said:
Did anyone use to go to Eurobeat 2000? I went a few times and loved it, but most of my clubbing in that er was in Brighton.
Yep, at Turnmills. Had a cracking New Year night with Sven Vath playing one time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AH_5OyCsco
Another London regular, D.A.V.E. The Drummer.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/10716-Metal-Spark
https://www.discogs.com/composition/eec69104-d1a1-...
A couple of Dutch foot-tappers from 1996.
https://www.discogs.com/composition/eec69104-d1a1-...
A couple of Dutch foot-tappers from 1996.
I stopped going out by 1994, as the rave scene was too commercial by then, and full of 'sheep' ravers.
Best years for me, were 1988 Acid house era, to 1993 last good year of proper rave music in my opinion.
Towards the end of 93, the scene seemed to split into Jungle/HappyHardcore/Techno genres, where before it was all just mashed together with all styles.
I still love the music, and still DJ in rave-radio.com 2pm Sundays if anyone's interested.
Don't expect to hear rinsed anthems though, I only play rare and obscure tunes !
Best years for me, were 1988 Acid house era, to 1993 last good year of proper rave music in my opinion.
Towards the end of 93, the scene seemed to split into Jungle/HappyHardcore/Techno genres, where before it was all just mashed together with all styles.
I still love the music, and still DJ in rave-radio.com 2pm Sundays if anyone's interested.
Don't expect to hear rinsed anthems though, I only play rare and obscure tunes !
'89 to '93 was my favourite era too and the evolution of the sound during that time was just incredible. Just love these:
Release - Spirit of Space EP
Andy Lewis - New Found Strength
Shameless promotion time, but I've just started getting into music production and no matter what I create, it always has a nod to styles of that time. It would be great to hear some feedback and I can provide mp3s if anyone is interested.
'92 style breakbeat hardcore - more of an after party vibe:
The Snake Charmer
More '92 style hardcore with the brazil stab that always put a smile on my face:
Uplifting
Early style house with a simple groove:
Yeah (Deep Mix)
And a bit of 175bpm drum and bass, just 'cos
Fantasma
Release - Spirit of Space EP
Andy Lewis - New Found Strength
Shameless promotion time, but I've just started getting into music production and no matter what I create, it always has a nod to styles of that time. It would be great to hear some feedback and I can provide mp3s if anyone is interested.
'92 style breakbeat hardcore - more of an after party vibe:
The Snake Charmer
More '92 style hardcore with the brazil stab that always put a smile on my face:
Uplifting
Early style house with a simple groove:
Yeah (Deep Mix)
And a bit of 175bpm drum and bass, just 'cos
Fantasma
Clark remix of Milanese's Mr Bad News.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mSB6qCQPFg
Jackson and his Computerband, Utopia, you'll probably remember it as an O2 advert if you didn't know it already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1hfMHDodc
Eboman, donuts with Buddha. Excellent video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiUMhU5mBoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mSB6qCQPFg
Jackson and his Computerband, Utopia, you'll probably remember it as an O2 advert if you didn't know it already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1hfMHDodc
Eboman, donuts with Buddha. Excellent video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiUMhU5mBoU
Took me 30 minutes to find this (don't you hate that), couldn't remember the name. Electro - Rob Real, Eraser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loNA-_rUvZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loNA-_rUvZY
Squarepusher's Venus No 17 EP, forgot I had it, christ this kicks, particularly from 06:54 on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfdYopnlWCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfdYopnlWCk
My latest drum & bass track using a couple of samples from The Running Man.
https://soundcloud.com/timhancock/uprising
https://soundcloud.com/timhancock/uprising
1994 was the year I felt the original rave vide started to wane, and when the scene split into the jungle & happy hardcore shyte genres, I went back to house music.
I did like a bit of jungle, but that too seemed to be more of an image thing, than a genuine musical flourishing sound.
But, some good 1994 tunes were released still, a few in this clip : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Lzym9S9zA
There was never, and will never be in the future, another era like the 1989-1991 rave scene, because not only did the influence of the social & political issues of that time, have a bearing on the music, it was also dictated by the limitations of the technology too.
Oldskool producers had to be very clever to make the most of primitive early DAW's which had limited tracks (like the earlier 4 track cassette recorders of the generation before), and this forced them to be ultra-creative. The sampling time available was so short, it forced them to use low bitrates, and give the tunes a gritty and compressed but very unique sound.
Trying to manually 'sync' two Atari 520 ST's or Amiga 1200's to get 8 tracks was like beatmatching 2 belt drive turntables. Modern music production is just piss easy in comparison, with unlimited tracks on DAW's with every sound available, and unlimited 24 bit sampling time. There is nothing new now, it's all been done a million times over.
The pure genius and variety of 89-91 oldskool music, meant there were no 'typical' tunes, they were all very different, and had a wide range of tempo's. Producers were not copying from the previous 20 years of dance music that came before them, because they were creating a completely new sound themselves. It was the oldskool producers that invented and engineered dozens of completely new and unique styles of music, and they should be recognised. There were no individual genre's like the post 94 (and indeed modern dance music), it was all just 'rave' music, all mashed in together.
It's a bit ridiculous now, when you have 20 different labels for 'styles' house music, which is basically all the same lol.
As for HipHop : I still love brand new UK HipHop, and still buy new albums.
This, I think, is the one genre that is still very experimental, and underground.
I'm not talking about the commercial grime b
ks, but more artists like 'Lee Scott', and 'Trellion' as two examples. Really clever lyrics, amazing minimalistic but unique beats, and subject matter that is relevant to English folk, without any of the Yank gangsta bs. Try these for starters :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYNRD-Dsdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_09skfhQrE&li...
I did like a bit of jungle, but that too seemed to be more of an image thing, than a genuine musical flourishing sound.
But, some good 1994 tunes were released still, a few in this clip : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Lzym9S9zA
There was never, and will never be in the future, another era like the 1989-1991 rave scene, because not only did the influence of the social & political issues of that time, have a bearing on the music, it was also dictated by the limitations of the technology too.
Oldskool producers had to be very clever to make the most of primitive early DAW's which had limited tracks (like the earlier 4 track cassette recorders of the generation before), and this forced them to be ultra-creative. The sampling time available was so short, it forced them to use low bitrates, and give the tunes a gritty and compressed but very unique sound.
Trying to manually 'sync' two Atari 520 ST's or Amiga 1200's to get 8 tracks was like beatmatching 2 belt drive turntables. Modern music production is just piss easy in comparison, with unlimited tracks on DAW's with every sound available, and unlimited 24 bit sampling time. There is nothing new now, it's all been done a million times over.
The pure genius and variety of 89-91 oldskool music, meant there were no 'typical' tunes, they were all very different, and had a wide range of tempo's. Producers were not copying from the previous 20 years of dance music that came before them, because they were creating a completely new sound themselves. It was the oldskool producers that invented and engineered dozens of completely new and unique styles of music, and they should be recognised. There were no individual genre's like the post 94 (and indeed modern dance music), it was all just 'rave' music, all mashed in together.
It's a bit ridiculous now, when you have 20 different labels for 'styles' house music, which is basically all the same lol.
As for HipHop : I still love brand new UK HipHop, and still buy new albums.
This, I think, is the one genre that is still very experimental, and underground.
I'm not talking about the commercial grime b
ks, but more artists like 'Lee Scott', and 'Trellion' as two examples. Really clever lyrics, amazing minimalistic but unique beats, and subject matter that is relevant to English folk, without any of the Yank gangsta bs. Try these for starters :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYNRD-Dsdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_09skfhQrE&li...
Edited by Nik Gnashers on Saturday 23 February 07:19
Edited by Nik Gnashers on Saturday 23 February 07:22
I loved my Happy hardcore back in the day! Did a mix a few years back for anyone who may be interested or misses the classic late 90s era.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zutg2gkacmyu78/Happy%20...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zutg2gkacmyu78/Happy%20...
Thread revival!
Stumbled across a few good ones on YouTube. First is a load of new old-style tracks by Seduction, really worth a listen if you like early 90s breakbeat:
https://youtu.be/YGahct26zGc
Secondly there is a weekly hardcore radio show on Beats 106, link below to Sharkey and Marc Smith’s set. Lots of classic bouncy techno tunes and some newer free form.
https://youtu.be/g9sh5D804b4
Stumbled across a few good ones on YouTube. First is a load of new old-style tracks by Seduction, really worth a listen if you like early 90s breakbeat:
https://youtu.be/YGahct26zGc
Secondly there is a weekly hardcore radio show on Beats 106, link below to Sharkey and Marc Smith’s set. Lots of classic bouncy techno tunes and some newer free form.
https://youtu.be/g9sh5D804b4
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