What bands 'should' have been bigger?
Discussion
Mr Tidy said:
K12beano said:
'd agree - I vaguely remember about that time thinking they were one of the best things to have happened in a decade or so
(but then I grew up with 60s music and all through the 70s which had all seemed pretty exciting)
But going back to Supergrass era - a couple of honourable mentions that maybe should have been even bigger:
Jayhawks
Beautiful South
Divine Comedy
Yes, they were all big...ish... but could really have been massive, I think
I don't know anything about the Jayhawks, but the Beautiful South seemed pretty MOR to me and Divine Comedy were just cr*p - they should have taken a National Express out of the UK. (I would have chipped in towards the fare)! (but then I grew up with 60s music and all through the 70s which had all seemed pretty exciting)
But going back to Supergrass era - a couple of honourable mentions that maybe should have been even bigger:
Jayhawks
Beautiful South
Divine Comedy
Yes, they were all big...ish... but could really have been massive, I think
Liberation, Promenade and Casanova were incredibly creative musically and lyrically, intelligent and witty, perfectly produced and unlike anything else of their era. A Short Album About Love is grandiose and beautiful, and Fin de Siècle contains Commuter Love which is one of the most perfect songs ever.
I'm not convinced the later albums are as good musically, and I think he peaked with Regeneration, which is a masterpiece.
Sebastian Tombs said:
The Divine Comedy were *so* much better than The National Express.
Liberation, Promenade and Casanova were incredibly creative musically and lyrically, intelligent and witty, perfectly produced and unlike anything else of their era. A Short Album About Love is grandiose and beautiful, and Fin de Siècle contains Commuter Love which is one of the most perfect songs ever.
I'm not convinced the later albums are as good musically, and I think he peaked with Regeneration, which is a masterpiece.
I'm with you there.Liberation, Promenade and Casanova were incredibly creative musically and lyrically, intelligent and witty, perfectly produced and unlike anything else of their era. A Short Album About Love is grandiose and beautiful, and Fin de Siècle contains Commuter Love which is one of the most perfect songs ever.
I'm not convinced the later albums are as good musically, and I think he peaked with Regeneration, which is a masterpiece.
"Whimsical"
K12beano said:
Sebastian Tombs said:
The Divine Comedy were *so* much better than The National Express.
Liberation, Promenade and Casanova were incredibly creative musically and lyrically, intelligent and witty, perfectly produced and unlike anything else of their era. A Short Album About Love is grandiose and beautiful, and Fin de Siècle contains Commuter Love which is one of the most perfect songs ever.
I'm not convinced the later albums are as good musically, and I think he peaked with Regeneration, which is a masterpiece.
I'm with you there.Liberation, Promenade and Casanova were incredibly creative musically and lyrically, intelligent and witty, perfectly produced and unlike anything else of their era. A Short Album About Love is grandiose and beautiful, and Fin de Siècle contains Commuter Love which is one of the most perfect songs ever.
I'm not convinced the later albums are as good musically, and I think he peaked with Regeneration, which is a masterpiece.
"Whimsical"
Same for Badly Drawn Boy in my estimation, absolute laureate.
Sebastian Tombs said:
The Divine Comedy were *so* much better than The National Express.
Liberation, Promenade and Casanova were incredibly creative musically and lyrically, intelligent and witty, perfectly produced and unlike anything else of their era. A Short Album About Love is grandiose and beautiful, and Fin de Siècle contains Commuter Love which is one of the most perfect songs ever.
I'm not convinced the later albums are as good musically, and I think he peaked with Regeneration, which is a masterpiece.
I did quite like Divine comedy, definitely more than just national express.Liberation, Promenade and Casanova were incredibly creative musically and lyrically, intelligent and witty, perfectly produced and unlike anything else of their era. A Short Album About Love is grandiose and beautiful, and Fin de Siècle contains Commuter Love which is one of the most perfect songs ever.
I'm not convinced the later albums are as good musically, and I think he peaked with Regeneration, which is a masterpiece.
An excerpt of one of their songs was also used as the father Ted theme
The Bible - a wonderful songsmith in Boo Hewerdine , wonderful live but , cruelly , never quite made it. See also Danny Wilson - terrific band,
Still, nobody ever got ever rich by underestimating the record buying public's execrable taste - Jive Bunny anyone? Or would Sir prefer some Jason Donovan ....
Still, nobody ever got ever rich by underestimating the record buying public's execrable taste - Jive Bunny anyone? Or would Sir prefer some Jason Donovan ....
I'm not sure why YouTube suggested that I might be interested in a 1970's female rock group named Fanny but they were quite good:-
https://youtu.be/bE3uwtegPEY
https://youtu.be/bE3uwtegPEY
Fittster said:
bigandclever said:
They were relatively big, apparently a top ten album. Not sure quite how much more success you'd expect from them.If they get on the list, then I'll add Pop Will Eat Itself, who had less chart success but I think are fairly well known (At least they sold a lot of T-shirts to student in the 90s, even if they didn't sell many records).
Second album was not that good and their sound just kind of aged. Lauren Lavern became a sometime tv presenter
Gecko1978 said:
Fittster said:
bigandclever said:
They were relatively big, apparently a top ten album. Not sure quite how much more success you'd expect from them.If they get on the list, then I'll add Pop Will Eat Itself, who had less chart success but I think are fairly well known (At least they sold a lot of T-shirts to student in the 90s, even if they didn't sell many records).
Second album was not that good and their sound just kind of aged. Lauren Lavern
wisbech said:
D'Influence. 90's jazz funk group - (think Soul2Soul) Great live, very respected (did lots of remixing/ production work for other groups, opened for Micheal Jackson) but never had that one break through hit.
I've got the first album and it's OK but the weren't doing anything particularly new (they came a fair while after Soul II Soul) and by the time of the second album Acid Jazz had declined into a fairly small scene. At the time I preferred Qui 3, who were similar but I struggle to think either could have been huge.Big Audio Dynamite. Such an influential band, so many bands of the next 20 or so years owed a lot to their sound. They kicked the sampling trend off, others had done it in bits before but their first album was full of samples. Jones and Strummer working together, and playing nicely, post Clash. They pushed so many technology, video and music boundaries.
Could name a lot more metal bands for this, but one I just listened to for the first time;
Tarot (eg. Marko Hietala of Nightwish)
Its obviously mid-tier and not going to come near Iron Maiden and suchlike/seminal stuff, this is so overlooked. In terms of straight heavy/power metal the two 80s records should be in any 80s top 100 but generally aren't. Great songs, vocals and nothing much wrong with the guitar work.
Tarot (eg. Marko Hietala of Nightwish)
Its obviously mid-tier and not going to come near Iron Maiden and suchlike/seminal stuff, this is so overlooked. In terms of straight heavy/power metal the two 80s records should be in any 80s top 100 but generally aren't. Great songs, vocals and nothing much wrong with the guitar work.
Edited by Winterway on Wednesday 14th October 13:16
Japveesix said:
Animal said:
Silver Sun.
The first Silver Sun album is one of the catchiest and best poprock records ever. It's got some absolute gems on it.For me The Wildhearts should have been far bigger, I'd genuinely rate Ginger as one of the best songwriters of our time. He's prolific and can write stomping riff laden rock monsters, alongside 3 minute pop songs, meandering ballad style stuff and folk numbers. And his lyrics are regularly great, witty and relevant.
Edited by Japveesix on Thursday 3rd September 20:28
Really sad as their first album was one of the main soundtracks to my teenage years.
For those who haven't heard them now's the time to go listen to any one of the following tracks on YouTube:
I'll see you around:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-nLWLxHYYyw
Lava:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVja3OCbXs8
Last day:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FYtbr86cjaM
Too much, too little, too late:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wDBncxWtLd8
New song Big Wheel from April this year:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhpwzJT0l4
RIP James Broad, seemed like a nice dude and knew how to write a catchy tune!
Edited by Japveesix on Tuesday 3rd November 20:28
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