for fans of heavy music
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Pieman68 said:
Anyone heard the new Disturbed album?
Another great ballad on there (Reason to Fight) with Draiman proving that he can wail again
Rest of it just feels a bit light to me.
I have given it a couple of listens now.. the first couple of songs are OK and are the usual heavy sound we expect from them. However the rest of the album for me just misses the mark completely and is a bit bland/boring - feels like he is droning on abit Another great ballad on there (Reason to Fight) with Draiman proving that he can wail again
Rest of it just feels a bit light to me.
Memoriam cover of the Sacrilege track The Captive but also has the Sacrilege vocalist Lynda 'Tam' Simpson
on it, crust metal at its finest.... https://youtu.be/3vxxru9m3wk?list=RD3vxxru9m3wk
on it, crust metal at its finest.... https://youtu.be/3vxxru9m3wk?list=RD3vxxru9m3wk
Nice little instrumental playthrough from the chaps (most of them) in Slugdge:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwFnNdZ5cVE&fe...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwFnNdZ5cVE&fe...
New Sick Of It All album out
'Wake The Sleeping Dragon'
Absolutely ballistic. 'That Crazy White Boy s
t' is the greatest tribute to Bad Brains you'll ever hear, while 'Bobby Moses was a Racist' wants to make me throw myself through a wallPlaying in London 27 Jan. I'll be in the pit. All 46 years of me.
The Ocean - Phanerozoic I: Paleozoic
I knew that they had a new album this year but I missed the release a couple of weeks ago, a concept album (as always) and direct sequel to Precambrian with a second part due in 2020. For anyone unfamiliar, it's progressive metal somewhat in the vein of bands like Neurosis, Isis and Cult of Luna and most of their back catalogue is excellent.
I knew that they had a new album this year but I missed the release a couple of weeks ago, a concept album (as always) and direct sequel to Precambrian with a second part due in 2020. For anyone unfamiliar, it's progressive metal somewhat in the vein of bands like Neurosis, Isis and Cult of Luna and most of their back catalogue is excellent.
Saw these guys earlier in the year, and they put on a really good show. Not my usual fare, but great high energy performance in a small venue, and nice guys to chat to afterwards. Seeing them again in a few months. Different metal generation to me (I'm 44, they're, well, not), but this style is starting to click more, as long as it's performed honestly.
wars - Weathered Eyes
wars - Weathered Eyes
Penelope Stopit said:
Will someone kindly explain what heavy music is, is there possibly a weight difference of the audio files per Mb?
this. at 45 seconds.....i think that about sums up "heavy music" 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimR3u9vvMg
tuscaneer said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Will someone kindly explain what heavy music is, is there possibly a weight difference of the audio files per Mb?
this. at 45 seconds.....i think that about sums up "heavy music" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimR3u9vvMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se3uweDPJYA
And yet also this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2zVoG3NiE
It's one of those things that's very hard to define, yet you know when that definition is met. You certainly know when it isn't met.
Lentilist said:
tuscaneer said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Will someone kindly explain what heavy music is, is there possibly a weight difference of the audio files per Mb?
this. at 45 seconds.....i think that about sums up "heavy music" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimR3u9vvMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se3uweDPJYA
And yet also this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2zVoG3NiE
It's one of those things that's very hard to define, yet you know when that definition is met. You certainly know when it isn't met.
anyway, i always found that really fast stuff( blast beats and so on) just doesn't sound "heavy" as there is no room for the music to breathe and sit down....for me "heavy" is more to do with the physical weight of sound, low and wide is a prerequisite to my ears.
Lentilist said:
tuscaneer said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Will someone kindly explain what heavy music is, is there possibly a weight difference of the audio files per Mb?
this. at 45 seconds.....i think that about sums up "heavy music" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimR3u9vvMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se3uweDPJYA
And yet also this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2zVoG3NiE
It's one of those things that's very hard to define, yet you know when that definition is met. You certainly know when it isn't met.
I thank you both for educating me and now know that I have no heavy music in my collection. I agree, heavy music sure is a one off
Is this heavy music best listened to when under the influence of something?
Edited...I typed heavy metal in one sentence
Edited by Penelope Stopit on Wednesday 12th December 16:41
tuscaneer said:
it certainly is a curious one, and something that was debated 8 years ago(!!) at length when finding tesseract led me to start this very thread.........saw them in manchester a couple of weeks ago and can concluded they are pretty much the best live band i have ever seen by the way(and it's a long list!!)....
anyway, i always found that really fast stuff( blast beats and so on) just doesn't sound "heavy" as there is no room for the music to breathe and sit down....for me "heavy" is more to do with the physical weight of sound, low and wide is a prerequisite to my ears.
8 years ago and still going strong. Did you expect your topic to be so popular?anyway, i always found that really fast stuff( blast beats and so on) just doesn't sound "heavy" as there is no room for the music to breathe and sit down....for me "heavy" is more to do with the physical weight of sound, low and wide is a prerequisite to my ears.
tuscaneer said:
it certainly is a curious one, and something that was debated 8 years ago(!!) at length when finding tesseract led me to start this very thread.........saw them in manchester a couple of weeks ago and can concluded they are pretty much the best live band i have ever seen by the way(and it's a long list!!)....
anyway, i always found that really fast stuff( blast beats and so on) just doesn't sound "heavy" as there is no room for the music to breathe and sit down....for me "heavy" is more to do with the physical weight of sound, low and wide is a prerequisite to my ears.
Really fast stuff has a place, but there needs to be variation, otherwise it just blurs into one. The really extreme slam/brutal death metal (where all the band names end in "...ectomy") fails to engage by virtue of being so OTT (not to mention usually horribly sexist both visually and lyrically), and I find a lot of the ultra-techy death metal fails to click(track) unless there's something to contrast the blasting and guitarsturbation. Oddly, I don't get the same with the very slow stuff, as a lot of it uses very subtle variation and layering to amidst the repetition. Ufomammut's "Idolum" and Bongripper's "Satan Worshipping Doom" are fantastic examples of a slow records that never get boring for me. I'm also an absolute sucker for dissonant and/or icy cold Black Metal riffs, and that's probably the genre I spend most of my time exploring these days. anyway, i always found that really fast stuff( blast beats and so on) just doesn't sound "heavy" as there is no room for the music to breathe and sit down....for me "heavy" is more to do with the physical weight of sound, low and wide is a prerequisite to my ears.
Still not really "clicked" with Tesseract, although a few more recent discoveries have seen me starting to enjoy that kind of thing a bit more - more in the post-hardcore / metalcore vein, but some of that can also get quite proggy. Wars are well worth a listen.
tuscaneer said:
it certainly is a curious one, and something that was debated 8 years ago(!!) at length when finding tesseract led me to start this very thread.........
Should probably put this in the 'tenuous links to famous people' (or whatever) thread, but I was chatting to a young lad outside the rehearsal studios we used to go to. He directed me to the studio where my mates were already setting up, so I thanked him and mentioned to my mates about the 'nice young lad'. Apparently he was Jay from Tesseract...I'd just assumed he was another amateur musician like us having a jam.Later on we could barely hear our band above them in the next studio. I guess that's a good definition of 'heavy' too.
Enjoying a bit of this at the moment:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUWG6Xw_Wz8
I'd define that as heavy, even though tonally it's quite mild - just has an atmosphere of unease about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUWG6Xw_Wz8
I'd define that as heavy, even though tonally it's quite mild - just has an atmosphere of unease about it.
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