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Lentilist said:
Probably not a fair sample size, as I've only seen Anthrax and Slayer once each, and both a long time ago (supporting Maiden in 1991 and 2000 respectively). As much as I love the classic Slayer songs, I can honestly say they bored the arse off me, as the whole thing just felt phoned in. No real rapport with the crowd, and no real atmosphere until they played the obvious stuff at the end. Might have been a bad night, as I know people who have seen them dozens of times and will defend them to the death, Anthrax just seemed to be having that much more fun.
I've seen all the big 4 at least 10+ times except Megadeth as they bore the hell out of me, Slayer approaching 30. My Wife wasn't a fan of Slayer first few times she saw them live, but they are a band that excelled in a smaller venue (1500-2000) and always felt just a little lost on the huge Arena stages - Although the farewell tour they ramped up the production a lot. They don't really do crowd interaction, always been a case with them that they were there to play the songs.I went off Anthrax after the way they treated John Bush, that man did far more than needed to help them in the mid 2000's as they treated him like utter crap, and I've never particularly liked how punky it gets with Joey on vocals.
Heartworm said:
Lentilist said:
Probably not a fair sample size, as I've only seen Anthrax and Slayer once each, and both a long time ago (supporting Maiden in 1991 and 2000 respectively). As much as I love the classic Slayer songs, I can honestly say they bored the arse off me, as the whole thing just felt phoned in. No real rapport with the crowd, and no real atmosphere until they played the obvious stuff at the end. Might have been a bad night, as I know people who have seen them dozens of times and will defend them to the death, Anthrax just seemed to be having that much more fun.
I've seen all the big 4 at least 10+ times except Megadeth as they bore the hell out of me, Slayer approaching 30. My Wife wasn't a fan of Slayer first few times she saw them live, but they are a band that excelled in a smaller venue (1500-2000) and always felt just a little lost on the huge Arena stages - Although the farewell tour they ramped up the production a lot. They don't really do crowd interaction, always been a case with them that they were there to play the songs.I went off Anthrax after the way they treated John Bush, that man did far more than needed to help them in the mid 2000's as they treated him like utter crap, and I've never particularly liked how punky it gets with Joey on vocals.
I think the Bush era brought them in to the 21st Century. I'd have loved and probably prefered to see them at that point but it was an excellent show with Joey, sometimes forget how many legendary songs they have!
gazza285 said:
Steve vRS said:
No Idea why it’s taken so long as Anthrax are one of my favourite bands (especially the John Bush albums but that’s another thread), but just listened to S.O.D. Fantastic!!!!
Dan Lilker and Scott Ian, what is not to like?Have some Nuclear Assault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4FxNQl8Sq4
Connelly sounding (if not looking) exactly like he did 30 years ago, whilst Lilker just seems to be getting taller with age. Love it!
Lentilist said:
gazza285 said:
Steve vRS said:
No Idea why it’s taken so long as Anthrax are one of my favourite bands (especially the John Bush albums but that’s another thread), but just listened to S.O.D. Fantastic!!!!
Dan Lilker and Scott Ian, what is not to like?Have some Nuclear Assault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4FxNQl8Sq4
Connelly sounding (if not looking) exactly like he did 30 years ago, whilst Lilker just seems to be getting taller with age. Love it!
k me i didn't recognize connolly there!!!!! he looks like someone has glued a cricket ball to a basketball 
god, i wish i still had my handle with care t shirt from back then...i remember like it was yesterday discovering nuclear assault AND testament on the same episode of headbangers ball... don't know what year that was, i'm guessing 1987 because survive was their new album and testament were on the new order....
great times
Lentilist said:
tuscaneer said:
fk me i didn't recognize connolly there!!!!! he looks like someone has glued a cricket ball to a basketball
god, i wish i still had my handle with care t shirt from back then...i remember like it was yesterday discovering nuclear assault AND testament on the same episode of headbangers ball... don't know what year that was, i'm guessing 1987 because survive was their new album and testament were on the new order....
great times
I loved the YouTube comment about whether Nick Barker had eaten Glenn Evans k me i didn't recognize connolly there!!!!! he looks like someone has glued a cricket ball to a basketball god, i wish i still had my handle with care t shirt from back then...i remember like it was yesterday discovering nuclear assault AND testament on the same episode of headbangers ball... don't know what year that was, i'm guessing 1987 because survive was their new album and testament were on the new order....
great times
I got into that tier of thrash around the same time, perhaps a year or two later. Having discovered the Big Four, I then got into the likes of Nuclear Assault, Forbidden, Dark Angel, Exodus (a bit), Anacrusis and Death Angel. Never clicked with Testament and still can't quite understand why. The band I connected with the most was actually Acid Reign, I guess because they were the local heroes, so that would be circa 1989 when "The Fear" came out, which would've made me 15. Still love 'em!. Never got into any of the big German bands for some odd reason. No sooner had I gone down that rabbit hole than the whole Swedish and Florida death metal scenes exploded, then along came second wave Black Metal, and here we are 30 years later. Blimey. God I enjoyed those days - badly xeroxed fanzines, hand written (then physically typed!) tape trading lists, demo tapes and flyers from all over the world...great days.
Thing that still blows my mind is I was more or less the same age (+/- a few years) as the bands I was listening to, and how much genre defining stuff was made by 16 year old kids who didn't really have a clue what they were doing!
my transition from deep purple, uriah heep,wishbone ash etc as a kid listening to me old fella's records happened with somewhere in time by maiden...i was 11 and it sounded so different..i was transfixed...bought all their previous albums with pocket money and really liked seventh son when it dropped..... but at the same time the older kids in the music block at school were showing me stuff like master of puppets...my "maiden years" were pretty short although i keep going back years later...
i think our musical paths probably diverged at this point as after a couple/few years i was simultaneously listening to stuff like black flag, biohazard,downset, gorilla biscuits, burn, youth of today , judge, dag nasty, etc which was very "non metal".. i was definitely a hardcore kid at this point not a metal kid...this trend stayed tbh....i never really went back to metal....by the mid late 90s i was all about deftones, korn etc but had a simultaneous interest in depeche mode, nine inch nails etc.... that,too, has stuck to this day..
about 10/11 years ago i started to really take notice of a new type of band that included periphery, vildjharta, tesseract, sikth,fellsilent etc...it was, in fact, tesseract who compelled me to start this very thread in 2010...the use of 7 and 8 string guitars in a new thoughtful, rhythmically complex way rather than the mindless chugging i had come across previously i found intoxicating.... i had head of meshuggah but not taken any notice until i realised all these djent bands were coming from the same source... going back over their albums was incredible putting them into a time frame context...true innovators..
Rod200SX said:
Heartworm said:
Lentilist said:
Probably not a fair sample size, as I've only seen Anthrax and Slayer once each, and both a long time ago (supporting Maiden in 1991 and 2000 respectively). As much as I love the classic Slayer songs, I can honestly say they bored the arse off me, as the whole thing just felt phoned in. No real rapport with the crowd, and no real atmosphere until they played the obvious stuff at the end. Might have been a bad night, as I know people who have seen them dozens of times and will defend them to the death, Anthrax just seemed to be having that much more fun.
I've seen all the big 4 at least 10+ times except Megadeth as they bore the hell out of me, Slayer approaching 30. My Wife wasn't a fan of Slayer first few times she saw them live, but they are a band that excelled in a smaller venue (1500-2000) and always felt just a little lost on the huge Arena stages - Although the farewell tour they ramped up the production a lot. They don't really do crowd interaction, always been a case with them that they were there to play the songs.I went off Anthrax after the way they treated John Bush, that man did far more than needed to help them in the mid 2000's as they treated him like utter crap, and I've never particularly liked how punky it gets with Joey on vocals.
I think the Bush era brought them in to the 21st Century. I'd have loved and probably prefered to see them at that point but it was an excellent show with Joey, sometimes forget how many legendary songs they have!
Heartworm said:
Steve vRS said:
Just found Rammstein now.
I may need a German phrase book!
With Rammstein sometimes its best not knowing. Love that band, really hope the tour is rescheduled rather than cancelled.I may need a German phrase book!
Lentilist said:
Exactly the same here with Somewhere In Time - still my favourite Maiden album. Had the full length poster of cyborg Eddie on my bedroom door. Got a few Japanese versions of the album and Stranger in a Strange Land EP, and they're just things of beauty. I'm still very much a Maiden fan, even though some of their recent stuff has been a bit lopsided.
Looks like we had parallel but different inflection points with the more extreme stuff - hardcore stuff I got into was very much the UK grind/crust stuff (Napalm Death, ENT, Intense Degree, Heresy and the glorious Dr & the Crippens), but there were also bands like Ratos de Porão and Poison Idea, who I still listen to, but the main rabbit hole was death, doom and Black Metal.
I've started to get into more of the prog/djenty stuff, but still generally find it too clean - personal preference! More recently into UK-centric metalcore and deathcore, mostly via seeing a tonne of bands in small local venues. Thing that I've found interesting is it seems to be a much more thoughtful scene that's much less obsessed with being and appearing "metal!". Deathcore maybe less so in some regards, but there are bands doing interesting things with it. Find the lyrical themes more diverse and less silly than a lot of the more regular metal bands, and I've had some great discussions about everything from veganism through to mental health and Christianity.
i completely get the whole "devoid of soul" argument .. in fact 10 years ago in this very thread it was a hot topic...but aside from the more lo fi stuff in my past (primarily the diy punkier stuff like black flag and minor threat) i always tend to side with well produced music....Looks like we had parallel but different inflection points with the more extreme stuff - hardcore stuff I got into was very much the UK grind/crust stuff (Napalm Death, ENT, Intense Degree, Heresy and the glorious Dr & the Crippens), but there were also bands like Ratos de Porão and Poison Idea, who I still listen to, but the main rabbit hole was death, doom and Black Metal.
I've started to get into more of the prog/djenty stuff, but still generally find it too clean - personal preference! More recently into UK-centric metalcore and deathcore, mostly via seeing a tonne of bands in small local venues. Thing that I've found interesting is it seems to be a much more thoughtful scene that's much less obsessed with being and appearing "metal!". Deathcore maybe less so in some regards, but there are bands doing interesting things with it. Find the lyrical themes more diverse and less silly than a lot of the more regular metal bands, and I've had some great discussions about everything from veganism through to mental health and Christianity.
2 examples or this are quicksand and orange 9mm.....the vast majority of folk claim to like the don fury sound of both of their first ep's over both of their first full length albums...i just can't have ...both debut albums from both bands are just superior in every way.
i find a lot of the generic "djent for djent's sake" boring as hell but i always find myself drawn to really precise rhythmically clever music or stuff that's not quite normal. stuff i get a kick out of is sticking an unexpected chord in a progression every 3rd bar or whatever... just stuff to throw you off and make things a bit more uneasy for the listener
but no matter what.... it's got to sound MASSIVE!!!!!!
Seems like the perfect time to post this, which I'm sure some of you've already seen
https://youtu.be/ep-CwER9Gb0
https://youtu.be/ep-CwER9Gb0
Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Monday 18th May 21:58
Swervin_Mervin said:
Seems like the perfect time to post this, which I'm sure some of you've already seen
https://youtu.be/ep-CwER9Gb0
Loving Charlie's Covid streams, especially the SOD stuff! Would be great if they did another reunion tour, despite having seen Anthrax on numerous occasions I never did get to an SOD show, despite Live At Budokan playing a massive part in the development of my musical tastes! I know Milano has frequently stated that he has no interest in another reunion though, maybe Patton is the perfect guy to fill his shoes? https://youtu.be/ep-CwER9Gb0
Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Monday 18th May 21:58
JaymzDead said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
Seems like the perfect time to post this, which I'm sure some of you've already seen
https://youtu.be/ep-CwER9Gb0
Loving Charlie's Covid streams, especially the SOD stuff! Would be great if they did another reunion tour, despite having seen Anthrax on numerous occasions I never did get to an SOD show, despite Live At Budokan playing a massive part in the development of my musical tastes! I know Milano has frequently stated that he has no interest in another reunion though, maybe Patton is the perfect guy to fill his shoes? https://youtu.be/ep-CwER9Gb0
Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Monday 18th May 21:58
Swervin_Mervin said:
Like I think I said earlier, I was never really into Anthrax and I don't know why. Hence I'm totally unaware of SoD etc. That said, it seems to me just from that vid that Patton would be perfect - but then again isn't he just about perfect for any genre of music?
True dat, here's the video I was alluding to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJoE6SxQ9mE, Enjoy!Gassing Station | Music | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff