Serious offroading - Range Rover, Shogun or Land Cruiser?
Discussion
Ayahuasca said:
The LR vs Toyota thing bores the tits off me. I have the Defender pictured, my wife has a Toyota Land Cruiser (Prado version).
Offroad, the Defender pisses all over the Toyota.
They are equally reliable in normal use.
My previous Toyota Land Cruiser died after stranding me during a river crossing that the Defender would not have even noticed.
This was my Toyota before it gave up the ghost.
Should have bought an 80 SeriesOffroad, the Defender pisses all over the Toyota.
They are equally reliable in normal use.
My previous Toyota Land Cruiser died after stranding me during a river crossing that the Defender would not have even noticed.
This was my Toyota before it gave up the ghost.
They are equally as reliable
A mate off roads an 80 series - has done pretty much every weekend for a few years now - every panel is dented.
It has NEVER broken down.
He goes with a load of Defender drivers - half the time they don't turn up as something is broken, or they have to stop during the day as something needs fixing.
He sits on the motorway at 70+ with the AC on and they are buzzing along struggling to keep up.
Auto box, leather, 3 diff locks at the press of a button - as standard... there is no comparison.
Ari said:
If you were going seriously offroad in an isolated environment, which would you take?
You perhaps need to define "seriously offroad" and "isolated". I live in the UAE, and we frequently go into the desert or mountains to "seriously offroad" and "isolated" environments. By that I mean, cross terrain without tracks and be up to 50-60km from the nearest road, and the roads are not commonly traversed. What you find is that its hard to get that remote in the modern world. Also, you tend to see the locals gravitate to a few key cars. Landcruisers / Patrols and HIlux dominate, for reasons described above. Other people doing what we do tend to have FJs or Jeeps and a lot of people have Pajero / shoguns. Very, very few people have LandRover these days.
That said you can do it in anything. We have traversed UAE north to south, 700km offroad in our Porsche Cayenne. Maybe not sensible, but can be done. This trip we did with a Pajero, Cherokee and the Cayenne. All cars were fine, when its hot (50C outside) the Pajeros are sensitive to gearbox overheating, the Cayenne looses its engine sensor system, and the jeep seems fine. The jeep is slightly lifted and very capable with good 4x4 control and capability, the Cayenne, lacks clearance (even with slight modification), the Pajero is factory, and pretty impressive allround, but lacks power sometimes in the sand.
Weapon of choice from the above list Land Cruiser please!
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V8RX7 said:
Ayahuasca said:
The LR vs Toyota thing bores the tits off me. I have the Defender pictured, my wife has a Toyota Land Cruiser (Prado version).
Offroad, the Defender pisses all over the Toyota.
They are equally reliable in normal use.
My previous Toyota Land Cruiser died after stranding me during a river crossing that the Defender would not have even noticed.
This was my Toyota before it gave up the ghost.
Should have bought an 80 SeriesOffroad, the Defender pisses all over the Toyota.
They are equally reliable in normal use.
My previous Toyota Land Cruiser died after stranding me during a river crossing that the Defender would not have even noticed.
This was my Toyota before it gave up the ghost.
They are equally as reliable
A mate off roads an 80 series - has done pretty much every weekend for a few years now - every panel is dented.
It has NEVER broken down.
He goes with a load of Defender drivers - half the time they don't turn up as something is broken, or they have to stop during the day as something needs fixing.
He sits on the motorway at 70+ with the AC on and they are buzzing along struggling to keep up.
Auto box, leather, 3 diff locks at the press of a button - as standard... there is no comparison.
when I was in the UK I went greenlaning quite a lot, including trips to wales etc, d1, had a snorkel fitted for wales river crossings, but no lift and at tyres.
rarely got stuck and never broke down.
the only time we had a breakdown on a trip was a Landcruiser and it did a cv joint, the guy had a spare and we got it changed.
now living in New Zealand I find that they are known for the cv thing, but they still command a high price.
I'll probably end up with a Pajero of some flavour as it will be my daily driver.
You can get land rovers if you pay, stupid money as the defender is out of production.
all of them will break if you punish them, depends on what you class as a breakdown. I've known people complain their car is broken down as the rear window wiper needs fixing.
V8RX7 said:
jesta1865 said:
depends on what you class as a breakdown.
When I have to start walking
me to, but honestly, i have a mate that moans about his audi all the time, this stopped working, that stopped working. normally he's been in the setup on the car and switched it off.
now i've moved to nz his local dealer will make a fortune out of him
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