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Can’t think why anyone would believe teachers are on more than that tbh. They are recruited young and come out for a couple of years and either marry or else go back to a steady job back home. Similarly to hosties, its a paid travel stint between uni and a proper career, and with accommodation and transport covered they spend everything on social/travel.
Given most grad roles pay terribly I can see the attraction over UK equivalent especially when you take into account the weather, cheap travel opportunities and an extremely low number of problem case children.
Given most grad roles pay terribly I can see the attraction over UK equivalent especially when you take into account the weather, cheap travel opportunities and an extremely low number of problem case children.
strain said:
Her sisters apartment is fully paid around 75k AED per annum, with flights etc, Her school doesn't hire without experience but are happy to take substitute teaching into account,
Unsure on the exact package she would be offered but even if they matched the 75k and we had to put some towards an apartment I'm happy
Places like teachaway advertise the packages with airfare, accommodations and health insurance,
I have lived in Abu Dhabi for 8 years now and know a few teachers, many are on a significantly lower package than you are stating. Unsure on the exact package she would be offered but even if they matched the 75k and we had to put some towards an apartment I'm happy
Places like teachaway advertise the packages with airfare, accommodations and health insurance,
Some important considerations for you
1. if your wide is going to be a Teaching Assistant, then these are not employed by the school themselves but an outsource company that have different packages and conditions compared to teachers (Typically Outsource employees on a back to back contract).
2. Teaching assistance as en example in British schools are typically on sponsorship from the husband, therefore medical Residence visa is from husband package and not from the School
3. Many Junior level teachers share accommodation in Khalifa city or Al Reef to keep costs down.
4. Accommodation of a 4-bed apartment for 75k, the quality, and location the accommodation would be extremely poor compared to UK standards. A good 2-bed apartment is upwards of 90k
5. Medical will be provided by all employers in Abu Dhabi as this is the Law, but different grades of employees will typically get different coverage. MAny EMployers to reduce there cost limit the coverage to Abu Dhabi Hospitals only and only ER coverage in other Emirates of the UAE. Not that as you would be officially an Expat you would not have NHS coverage in the UK.
6. AD Medical Cover is also dependent on provided and your position within the company. There are some good hospitals here like Cleveland Clinic and Sheikh Khalifa Medical City, but these will not be covered by many policies. And then there is the Co-Pay % that yo =u will also need to factor in.
7. Living in Khalifa city is not great, there is hardly anything to do and you may find yourself driving to the city to find life every weekend.
8. what school will you be working for Public or Private?
9. Living expenses are not cheap, if you want your UK comfort foods then factor in a minimum of 200 (UK Pounds)per week for food including visits to Spinneys, Waitrose or Souq planet for imported British food.
10. Utilities, Electricity and water have had the subsidies removed for Expats, then AC Fees, Municipality Fees all ad up to 300 (UK Pounds) per month
11. Tuition Fees are expensive in UK Schools in Abu Dhabi, Many of the good schools are full for each year group. your kids may need to complete an assessment to obtain entry.
Do your groundwork and research. And when you accept a position and move, come with a completely open mind as it will not be as you expect.
J4m80 said:
Not sure if this is on/off topic but I hear that a VPN is now needed in UAE for Skype/WhatsApp etc. which wasn’t the case when I last lived there.
Is this correct any if so any recommendations?
Ta.
https://gulfnews.com/technology/individuals-can-access-vpns-in-the-uae-with-caution-1.1872304Is this correct any if so any recommendations?
Ta.
J4m80 said:
Not sure if this is on/off topic but I hear that a VPN is now needed in UAE for Skype/WhatsApp etc. which wasn’t the case when I last lived there.
Is this correct any if so any recommendations?
Ta.
Yep. Du and eti want to charge you for using their own voip service so you can’t access the others without vpn. Vpn also needed to access UK netflix etc. Is this correct any if so any recommendations?
Ta.
I could never condone the use of one obviously, but i am told expressvpn works flawlessly across multiple devices even though it’s a bit fiddly to set up on your mobile.
We have been in AD for nearly a decade. Two children and both parents working. We’re lucky to enjoy generous housing and medical cover - the sort that hardly exists anymore - run two cars and have two live-in helpers. We don’t live large but do make sure the children can do after-school stuff and eat well (organic where feasible).
All told we think we spend around £10,000/month.
All told we think we spend around £10,000/month.
Porridge GTI said:
We have been in AD for nearly a decade. Two children and both parents working. We’re lucky to enjoy generous housing and medical cover - the sort that hardly exists anymore - run two cars and have two live-in helpers. We don’t live large but do make sure the children can do after-school stuff and eat well (organic where feasible).
All told we think we spend around £10,000/month.
We’ve only been here 4 months or so and I always knew first 6 months would be spendy. One person working, 2 young children, no help. Renting a car so that’s obvs expensive. I don’t even know where the money goes. We’re on a an old school package. Accom, schooling, Medicare, car allowance etc. Not managing to save.....All told we think we spend around £10,000/month.
Just though I would update this
Wife just been offered a teaching role, 3 bed apartment with nanny room, healthcare, yearly return flights, yearly pay 126,000 dirham's (10500 per month)
I've been working fro home for the last few months so going to see if they are happy for me to work from home constantly, 4,700 miles away. If not i'll be job hunting as soon as we get there - spoke to a few recruiters who seem fairly positive
Wife just been offered a teaching role, 3 bed apartment with nanny room, healthcare, yearly return flights, yearly pay 126,000 dirham's (10500 per month)
I've been working fro home for the last few months so going to see if they are happy for me to work from home constantly, 4,700 miles away. If not i'll be job hunting as soon as we get there - spoke to a few recruiters who seem fairly positive
strain said:
Just though I would update this
Wife just been offered a teaching role, 3 bed apartment with nanny room, healthcare, yearly return flights, yearly pay 126,000 dirham's (10500 per month)
I've been working fro home for the last few months so going to see if they are happy for me to work from home constantly, 4,700 miles away. If not i'll be job hunting as soon as we get there - spoke to a few recruiters who seem fairly positive
That's about 2k sterling a month.... that won't go far in the Emirates....Wife just been offered a teaching role, 3 bed apartment with nanny room, healthcare, yearly return flights, yearly pay 126,000 dirham's (10500 per month)
I've been working fro home for the last few months so going to see if they are happy for me to work from home constantly, 4,700 miles away. If not i'll be job hunting as soon as we get there - spoke to a few recruiters who seem fairly positive
GT03ROB said:
strain said:
Just though I would update this
Wife just been offered a teaching role, 3 bed apartment with nanny room, healthcare, yearly return flights, yearly pay 126,000 dirham's (10500 per month)
I've been working fro home for the last few months so going to see if they are happy for me to work from home constantly, 4,700 miles away. If not i'll be job hunting as soon as we get there - spoke to a few recruiters who seem fairly positive
That's about 2k sterling a month.... that won't go far in the Emirates....Wife just been offered a teaching role, 3 bed apartment with nanny room, healthcare, yearly return flights, yearly pay 126,000 dirham's (10500 per month)
I've been working fro home for the last few months so going to see if they are happy for me to work from home constantly, 4,700 miles away. If not i'll be job hunting as soon as we get there - spoke to a few recruiters who seem fairly positive
Most people are on the way out not many opportunities at moment. 10500 seems low for teacher, as above that's food and dewa , leaves nothing for travel, flights, cars, maid for maids room, entertainment. Beers are 46 depending on where you go, so you really need top look at the finances and does it make sense. Assume no school fees to pay?
I'm a UX designer, recruiter's I have spoken to think 20-30k per month is easily achievable.
We'll be making money on our UK house being rented out, childcare and accommodation is included in her wage so we only have travel and food to worry about in the short term, car wise I'll most likely pick up a check golf GTi and she wants something jeep-y.
We'll be making money on our UK house being rented out, childcare and accommodation is included in her wage so we only have travel and food to worry about in the short term, car wise I'll most likely pick up a check golf GTi and she wants something jeep-y.
GT03ROB said:
shirt said:
Although that’s likely going to be in mussafah hehehehe.
With 2000/month they won't be frequenting the bars & restaurants in town, so no loss!Seriously OP that really isn't much left after expenses. I hope you can find a job to supplement your wife's income.
strain said:
I'm a UX designer, recruiter's I have spoken to think 20-30k per month is easily achievable.
We'll be making money on our UK house being rented out, childcare and accommodation is included in her wage so we only have travel and food to worry about in the short term, car wise I'll most likely pick up a check golf GTi and she wants something jeep-y.
i remember you saying now. Niche area in uk, more so here. Have you seen jobs advertised? Don't listen to recruiters, take the worst recruiter you've ever met and multiply by 1000 and that's the starting point for the emirates. We'll be making money on our UK house being rented out, childcare and accommodation is included in her wage so we only have travel and food to worry about in the short term, car wise I'll most likely pick up a check golf GTi and she wants something jeep-y.
i don't want to piss on your dreams as i do think coming in post covid would be a better bet than if you'd have come out last year. its just this place is very unforgiving if you cock it up. ensure you carry zero debt at all times and have an out.
would you be interested in starting your own business? slower growth, massive opportunities. big companies often give new/small ones remarkably large contracts, if you can deliver then you're onto a winner
NB - feel free to PM on the latter point. My mrs is a data geek and digital marketing specialist who, for some reason i don;t understand, wants to get into data science, data visualisation and UX. we've just started one business that most would think madness during covid so also have a fair grasp on the hurdles. i personally think working for a local/indian run business [which is what most IT firms would be] would drive you insane.
Edited by shirt on Tuesday 15th September 12:40
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