2018 UK Targa/Road Rallying Thread
Discussion
Not sure how I've only just noticed this thread but I guess I'm a little late to the party seeing as there's only 1 month left of the year!
I'm out on the 'one and only' Preston next week, JJ Brown Memorial (North Wales) the weekend after and the annual 'Stuff the turkey' autotest to finish off the Motorsport year.
Some very interesting reads on here - I did the Border 200 as well and I do recall the Suzuki Alto taking a 'breather' in the hedge. Made me chuckle reading that the owner was on here, too!
What are everyone else's Motorsport plans for December?
Dion
I'm out on the 'one and only' Preston next week, JJ Brown Memorial (North Wales) the weekend after and the annual 'Stuff the turkey' autotest to finish off the Motorsport year.
Some very interesting reads on here - I did the Border 200 as well and I do recall the Suzuki Alto taking a 'breather' in the hedge. Made me chuckle reading that the owner was on here, too!
What are everyone else's Motorsport plans for December?
Dion
No targas left for us now. Already looking forward to next year. Some dates have already been announced. Another new targa in Yorkshire, De lacy MC are running a Targa 1st September next year.
Junior will probably swap seats and have a go in the drivers seat next year, maybe on the wearside in September, but not using 8 cylinders. Not sure If I'm going to navigate or he is going to get one of his mates in. None of his mates have ever done a Targa in their life though and maybe he will need some driving tips
I can imagine the response to such "helpful" advice now...........leave me alone I know what I'm doing
An Autotest for us this Sunday and probably another in December.
I looked at the autosolos at Donnington but haven't done anything more than look at the regs.
Wingo.
Junior will probably swap seats and have a go in the drivers seat next year, maybe on the wearside in September, but not using 8 cylinders. Not sure If I'm going to navigate or he is going to get one of his mates in. None of his mates have ever done a Targa in their life though and maybe he will need some driving tips
I can imagine the response to such "helpful" advice now...........leave me alone I know what I'm doing An Autotest for us this Sunday and probably another in December.
I looked at the autosolos at Donnington but haven't done anything more than look at the regs.
Wingo.
I’ve not contributed to this thread before as I’ve only just come across it, having done my first Targa last week at Rushmoor. Absolutely brilliant fun 
I have an E36 316i Compact, and I’m just about to swap in a 318ti engine for a bit more oomph.
I’m in Berkshire, not far from Rushmoor in fact, and my club is FDMC. Which events are essentials for next year ? Bramley in March is “our” next Targa.
I have an E36 316i Compact, and I’m just about to swap in a 318ti engine for a bit more oomph.
I’m in Berkshire, not far from Rushmoor in fact, and my club is FDMC. Which events are essentials for next year ? Bramley in March is “our” next Targa.
sundayjumper said:
I’ve not contributed to this thread before as I’ve only just come across it, having done my first Targa last week at Rushmoor. Absolutely brilliant fun
I have an E36 316i Compact, and I’m just about to swap in a 318ti engine for a bit more oomph.
I’m in Berkshire, not far from Rushmoor in fact, and my club is FDMC. Which events are essentials for next year ? Bramley in March is “our” next Targa.
Bramley is a great event, unsure we'll have the snow like we did this year though! I think that will be our next event too.I have an E36 316i Compact, and I’m just about to swap in a 318ti engine for a bit more oomph.
I’m in Berkshire, not far from Rushmoor in fact, and my club is FDMC. Which events are essentials for next year ? Bramley in March is “our” next Targa.
You're not too far away from the targas run by chelmsford motorclub, also a trip down the M4 from a few near Bristol, such as the Washingpool targa.
Theres also a few at Kemble airfield in the Cotswolds run by Bath motor club.
You're alot closer to the targa action than I am in Coventry thats for sure!
Forgot to mention our last targa of the year, the bonfire targa at Wethersfield Airfield. Run like clockwork, as usual for Chelmsford MC.
My first event as an "Expert", so any expectations to win a pot were already gone!
We struggled on some of the more open stretches (only 58hp in our wagon) but the more technical sections were fantastic, especially the tests around the narrower storage facility section. So ended up with a big difference in test classifications (40+ in the open tests, 23+ in the technical ones) to end up 5th in class, but another great day rallying and the car was faultless again
Also finally got an oppo shot!
My first event as an "Expert", so any expectations to win a pot were already gone!
We struggled on some of the more open stretches (only 58hp in our wagon) but the more technical sections were fantastic, especially the tests around the narrower storage facility section. So ended up with a big difference in test classifications (40+ in the open tests, 23+ in the technical ones) to end up 5th in class, but another great day rallying and the car was faultless again
Also finally got an oppo shot!
sundayjumper said:
I’ve not contributed to this thread before as I’ve only just come across it, having done my first Targa last week at Rushmoor. Absolutely brilliant fun
I have an E36 316i Compact, and I’m just about to swap in a 318ti engine for a bit more oomph.
I’m in Berkshire, not far from Rushmoor in fact, and my club is FDMC. Which events are essentials for next year ? Bramley in March is “our” next Targa.
Rushmoor was my first driving Targa, was great fun although I was taking it a bit steady as I was in the Wife's car.I have an E36 316i Compact, and I’m just about to swap in a 318ti engine for a bit more oomph.
I’m in Berkshire, not far from Rushmoor in fact, and my club is FDMC. Which events are essentials for next year ? Bramley in March is “our” next Targa.
26th and 4th in class NB was way above my expectations.
FDMC do run good events. Friday is their 20/20 navigation rally, I hope to do better this year.
Regulations are now available for the 2019 Festival Targa Rally organised by Bath Motor Club on Saturday 2nd March.
Following last year’s success we have maintained an element of the route in darkness, taken away the rougher parts and finished a bit earlier. We have maintained around 36 miles of tests and given you the opportunity to re-group and re-fuel on two occasions. The event is a round of the ASWMC and CMSG Targa Championships of which competitors must enter in the National B class to be eligible for points.
Again we will supply you a road book and a coloured marked map showing you all information. As we are running some of the event in the dark we do put more emphasis on passage and route checks rather than cone manoeuvres. It is fairer on you and the marshals.
Hope you can join us, bring your lights and sense of humour.
http://www.bathmotorclub.co.uk/festival/
Following last year’s success we have maintained an element of the route in darkness, taken away the rougher parts and finished a bit earlier. We have maintained around 36 miles of tests and given you the opportunity to re-group and re-fuel on two occasions. The event is a round of the ASWMC and CMSG Targa Championships of which competitors must enter in the National B class to be eligible for points.
Again we will supply you a road book and a coloured marked map showing you all information. As we are running some of the event in the dark we do put more emphasis on passage and route checks rather than cone manoeuvres. It is fairer on you and the marshals.
Hope you can join us, bring your lights and sense of humour.
http://www.bathmotorclub.co.uk/festival/
ASWMC Targa Championship 2019
Here is the calendar of 10 Events (7 to count) for 2019
Sat 2nd March - Festival Targa - Bath MC
Sat 30th March - Ilfracombe Targa - North Devon MC
Sat 13th April - Somerset Seeker - Burnham on Sea MC
Sun 12th May - Kemble Targa - Bath MC
Sun 11th August - Hatsford Targa - Ross & District MSC
Sat 24th August - Weston Super Targa - WSM MC
Sun 22nd September - Devizes Targa - Devizes MC
Sat 26th October - Exmoor Targa - Tavern MC
Sat or Sun 9th or 10th November - Bustard Targa - S&SCC
Sat 30th November - Ilfracombe Mini Targa - North Devon MC
Here is the calendar of 10 Events (7 to count) for 2019
Sat 2nd March - Festival Targa - Bath MC
Sat 30th March - Ilfracombe Targa - North Devon MC
Sat 13th April - Somerset Seeker - Burnham on Sea MC
Sun 12th May - Kemble Targa - Bath MC
Sun 11th August - Hatsford Targa - Ross & District MSC
Sat 24th August - Weston Super Targa - WSM MC
Sun 22nd September - Devizes Targa - Devizes MC
Sat 26th October - Exmoor Targa - Tavern MC
Sat or Sun 9th or 10th November - Bustard Targa - S&SCC
Sat 30th November - Ilfracombe Mini Targa - North Devon MC
Disappointed to see that there's no Washingpool in 2019, apparently the site is now lost forever to a caravan park :-(
Last weekend saw me out on the Barbara Carter Road Rally - the first time I've competed on the BC since 2005 and my first overnight road rally in quite some time.
I was sat with a first-time driver and, although we didn't set the timesheets alight we finished the event and had a great time doing it.
Not sure when my next time out is... maybe the Primrose 2019.
Last weekend saw me out on the Barbara Carter Road Rally - the first time I've competed on the BC since 2005 and my first overnight road rally in quite some time.
I was sat with a first-time driver and, although we didn't set the timesheets alight we finished the event and had a great time doing it.
Not sure when my next time out is... maybe the Primrose 2019.
Hi, looking for some advice.
I have a 71 classic mini and we have been using it this year for hrcr clubman evens, we have done the ilkley jubilee tour of Cheshire and then the Devils own rally which starts and finishes about 2 miles from my house.
We've enjoyed it but would like some more events to do so have been looking at targas as an option. My only concern is how rough they are in comparison to the historic events, that said Devils was rough and the car was fine.
I want to use the mini but I don't want to completely trash is, it is set up for road rallying (cage, Barnes, seats, sump guard all lines run inside etc) but obviously ground clearance and suspension etc are limiting factors.
I am fully onboard with looking to buy another car, thinking a 205/106 and my brother has just bought a 1985 mr2 so he can do both targas and historics.
If anyone did the Devils and also does targas and can offer any advice that would be great help, the mini was fine on the Devils though it did deck out plenty of times got a puncture and in truth I think if I was doing that with it every time I went out with it then it would start needing a lot of work to keep it running/reliable.
Any thoughts welcome, should point out being competitive isn't the ultimate aim, as I know the mini isn't likely to be
I have a 71 classic mini and we have been using it this year for hrcr clubman evens, we have done the ilkley jubilee tour of Cheshire and then the Devils own rally which starts and finishes about 2 miles from my house.
We've enjoyed it but would like some more events to do so have been looking at targas as an option. My only concern is how rough they are in comparison to the historic events, that said Devils was rough and the car was fine.
I want to use the mini but I don't want to completely trash is, it is set up for road rallying (cage, Barnes, seats, sump guard all lines run inside etc) but obviously ground clearance and suspension etc are limiting factors.
I am fully onboard with looking to buy another car, thinking a 205/106 and my brother has just bought a 1985 mr2 so he can do both targas and historics.
If anyone did the Devils and also does targas and can offer any advice that would be great help, the mini was fine on the Devils though it did deck out plenty of times got a puncture and in truth I think if I was doing that with it every time I went out with it then it would start needing a lot of work to keep it running/reliable.
Any thoughts welcome, should point out being competitive isn't the ultimate aim, as I know the mini isn't likely to be
I’d suggest that most of the Targas you would be doing in the North of England would be less rough, or perhaps on a par with the Devils.
If you like Test based Historic and Targa have a look at the NESCRO series, whilst HRCR events are heavily biased on regularity, NESCRO are much more biased towards the Tests.
Having a cheap modern to take the pressure of the Mini wouldn’t be a bad option.
I noticed you mentioned an MR2, wasn’t Simon Mellings Car by any chance? I know he selling it, looks like a great option for Historic and Targa.
If you like Test based Historic and Targa have a look at the NESCRO series, whilst HRCR events are heavily biased on regularity, NESCRO are much more biased towards the Tests.
Having a cheap modern to take the pressure of the Mini wouldn’t be a bad option.
I noticed you mentioned an MR2, wasn’t Simon Mellings Car by any chance? I know he selling it, looks like a great option for Historic and Targa.
There are a good few classic minis out on the NESCRO rounds. We use a TR7, the events rarely get rough and attract a good many classics. Its not unusual to see modern cars with no sumpguards competing. Some events major on old airfields or are on smooth surfaces. There can be the odd rough section on loose surface tests but that's a rarity.
Wingo
Wingo
Ok I'll have a look at the NESCRO calendar and have a go at one. As always as much as I'd like a more modern car to do the targas, space begins to become an issue, me and my brother are busy looking for a small unit to rent. His mr2 isn't simon mellings, it's one he found on eBay way down south and had couriered to us. It's been off the road dry stored for 15 years.
I love the hrcr classics as they are a big day out driving around, I'm not sure I'd get as much enjoyment from a single venue type targa, one with some decent transport road sections would be good.
I love the hrcr classics as they are a big day out driving around, I'm not sure I'd get as much enjoyment from a single venue type targa, one with some decent transport road sections would be good.
Generally speaking as far as the rules are concerned a Targa is a road rally, so all the rules apply. There is no rule in road Rallying which excludes cars over 1.4. You may be thinking of forced induction, which is only allowed up to 1.5.
Some events, but not many, do add restrictions on the cars, sometimes a half cage and harnesses are required and many restrict Tyres.
Some events, but not many, do add restrictions on the cars, sometimes a half cage and harnesses are required and many restrict Tyres.
Not seen it mentioned but arguably the toughest road rally in the country is going on this weekend.
LeJog, organised by HERO, 71 Historics working there way the hard way from Lands End to John o groats.
Just got back from Marshalling in Yoirkshire, just 38 Cars made it through our control at the end the ‘ Emmerdale’ white, about 8 seen to miss it by a few hundred yards, one I believe stuck in a Field having slotted hundred yards too early. Three or four came in wrong direction too.
It’s an event that certainly separates the men from boys!.
LeJog, organised by HERO, 71 Historics working there way the hard way from Lands End to John o groats.
Just got back from Marshalling in Yoirkshire, just 38 Cars made it through our control at the end the ‘ Emmerdale’ white, about 8 seen to miss it by a few hundred yards, one I believe stuck in a Field having slotted hundred yards too early. Three or four came in wrong direction too.
It’s an event that certainly separates the men from boys!.
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