New 4 round sprint series

New 4 round sprint series

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coppice

8,561 posts

143 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Ross Parker said:
coppice said:
Sign a waver (sic ) eh ? Maybe somebody should tell them that anything which purports to waive your right to recover damages for injury caused by others' negligence is legally ineffective. Elf and Safety gone mad? Hardly - the law has said as such for the last 40 years..
I don't know if you have been to a trackday or competed recently but all such events will require you to sign a waiver form.[/quote

Done plenty actually - and signed them , as not to do so would have meant an early bath ... But don't think for a minute they are effective - as I said earlier, it doesn't matter what you get folk to sign, you cannot escape liability for injury caused by your negligence by getting potential 'victims' to sign a form . It isn't illegal , just worthless . .

See also - 'trespassers will be prosecuted ' signs. Trespass , with some special exceptions , is not a crime even though thousands of signs suggest otherwise..

'You are here at your own risk-motor racing is dangerous signs '? Same again-not legally effective .Don't lose any sleep though , none of this is new.Even if it may be news for some .

Drumroll

3,738 posts

119 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Ross Parker said:
For your information the first 3 rounds of the series I run at the same venue with different layouts. the local fire station is under 15mins drive at Tregaron which have the correct equipment for cutting people out of cars. Our last round at Combe we have paid for a package that includes medics and recovery. I think you will find though that there are very few motorsport events in the UK that have cutting equipment for cars on site, considering you are probably into several hundred thousand pounds of equipment atleast.
Every sprint, Hillclimb, Rally (except road rallies) race meeting, run under an MSA permit has at least one licensed rescue unit in attendance all have cutting equipment on. Who do you think cut Billy monger out of his car or the drivers from the BTCC incident at Croft etc.




MG CHRIS

9,077 posts

166 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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ANother new sprint series more option the better, non msa sprints seem to be getting more popular javelin series along with the new Japanese sprint series which was te old Toyota sprint series bribing in Mazda and Subaru along with the Toyota series in one package is building in numbers with non msa race license holders and mas license holder that want a cheap less restrictive and more runs compared to msa stuff.

I've done the javelin sprint series run competitively for 2 years coming from track days and now going on towards msa stuff with 750mc. Hope you have great success with the new series and good to have something in wales.

Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Thanks Chris

Thurbs

2,780 posts

221 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Likewise if I was closer and in to sprinting this looks great value.

Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Thanks Gents, We will expand to new venues in 2019 but I want to use existing venues we know well first to make sure it all runs as it should. Last round might interest you at Castle Combe in Nov.

Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Rewards and Trophies for Slip&Grip Sprint Series

Points
Points will be awarded per Sub Class with 1st 50pts, 2nd 49pts, 3rd 48pts etc. An extra 2 points will be awarded for the fastest time of the day overall in each class (A,B,C)

An extra 10 points is awarded for any driver who competes in all 4 rounds

Points are determined by the fastest times overall and the fastest times in each class and sub class

Rewards & Trophies
- Overall winner of Sprint Series after 4 rounds will get a full season of free Slip&Grip Trackdays
- 1st, 2nd and 3rd overall for each event will receive a trophy
- 1st overall at each event will receive a free Slip&Grip Trackday
- 1st in each main class will receive a trophy and 25% off their next Sprint Entry or any Slip&Grip Trackday
- 1st in each sub class will receive 10% off any Slip&Grip Trackday
(Rewards will only be given if there is 3 or more cars in class or sub class)

Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Some of the entries so far for Round 1 - March 31st @ Mid Wales Activity Centre














Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Paddock and stage details for Round 1. Entries still open.


Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Stage Info


tin duck dave

167 posts

127 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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I'm not an elf n safety nut but how does that 7 in your entrant pictues get even close to meeting your roll cage requirements , never mind the heads being above the roll bar.

Weslake-Monza

461 posts

182 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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If the Seven was competing in an MSA Approved series in a road going class surely it wouldn't need a roll bar at all? So is it an issue here?

df76

3,614 posts

277 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Weslake-Monza said:
If the Seven was competing in an MSA Approved series in a road going class surely it wouldn't need a roll bar at all? So is it an issue here?
it does..

10.1.3.Road-Going Specialist Production, Modified Series Production Car s and Modified Specialist Production Cars must comply with K.1.6.1 or K.1.6.2

(which are roll bars).

tin duck dave

167 posts

127 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Weslake-Monza said:
If the Seven was competing in an MSA Approved series in a road going class surely it wouldn't need a roll bar at all? So is it an issue here?
The events own regulations for kit car class list 6 or 8 point cage, that is a basic roll bar with 4 attachments, no crossbracing and totally worthless when occupants heads are above it. It is simply inadequate and suggests that despite the assertion of safe competition by the op it is not a priority.

radical78

398 posts

143 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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plenty of sevens on trackdays like that and more chance of crashing with other cars . if was an mx5 or other sports car they don't have anything

tin duck dave

167 posts

127 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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radical78 said:
plenty of sevens on trackdays like that and more chance of crashing with other cars . if was an mx5 or other sports car they don't have anything
There may well be but that is not relevant here. The series own regulations place kit cars such as that seven in class A owing to their , and I quote, high power to weight ratio. That class lists a cage requirement that the car shown is not even close to meeting. If the regulations are not being applied then why bother having them and if you don't apply them what other safety issues are being ignored .

Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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The winning run from Round 1
https://youtu.be/yLrqvqbrVb0

Ross Parker

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516 posts

191 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Round 2 is a twin loop version of the Mid Wales Touge stage and we have opened a guest class for those who don't meet current class regs.

https://www.slipandgripautomotive.co.uk/event/spri...

Willhire89

1,327 posts

204 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Ross Parker said:
The winning run from Round 1
https://youtu.be/yLrqvqbrVb0
Surely any CoC would not accept what is shown at 0.46s??

Get it wrong and collect a marshal sat in his van - really?

Drumroll

3,738 posts

119 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Yes a really safe event, I saw possibly 4 marshals on the course. one in an extremely silly place (outside of a bend) one stood on the tailgate of a van with no protection. Of course you can run an event cheaply if you scrimp on safety, and by previous comments and looking at this video it looks like they are.