Which option would you take?

Which option would you take?

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RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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ChevronB19 said:
frodo_monkey said:
What about option A but also pay for a test in a proper single seater, F3000 etc?
Excellent idea and very tempting. F3000 chassis are cheap to buy as well, it’s the engine and gearbox that cost the money!
A common option is to rent the engine; there are various companies who offer this. Your budget would get you an engine for a year, but obviously doesn't leave enough to buy and rebuild the car. If you did have the budget to take that route, just get in touch as I know a former F3000 race engineer who now restores them to virtually concours (but still racing) condition, although he is pretty busy.

In answer to your original question, I personally wouldn't blow that sort of money in one go, so I'd go for the Sports 2000 option (in my case this would be a single seater, but you get my point). I was in a similar position a few years ago, with a bit less capital to start with and a lower annual budget, and I bought a Formula Renault and now attend test days and do the odd race at club level. The main obstacle that I've found is that many club racers are spending serious cash each year, so they naturally prefer the better value per pound of double and triple headers, which pushes race entries up above £400, which although that's very good value for a triple header, is too expensive for me to do regular racing. Testing remains great value though; my next outing is booked and it's £135 for an afternoon at Silverstone - only one day off work needed and no need to stay overnight etc.

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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In typical style for me, option E, a new one, but a variant of option A, may well be realised a lot earlier than anticipated (tomorrow).

Details to follow should it come off...

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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we wait with baited breath! Hope it works out !!

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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BertBert said:
we wait with baited breath! Hope it works out !!
It worked out! Hand virtually shaken, but bought from a friend. Even earlier than expected! Going to keep it under my hat until it’s in my oily paws, but a) it’s a saloon (again), b) historic and c) a famous car in modern historic circles

Will update in maybe a month...

Dinoboy

2,499 posts

217 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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Sounds exciting.

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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I’m now in a position to say what I’ve bought. As I said, it’s sort of a combination of options, it gives me a variant of option a plus events of other options (spa 6 hours).

I’ve bought the ex Jon Shipman & Mark Hales Anglia 105e. It came at the right time. Multiple rumours are it cost in excess of 100k to build. I don’t know about that, but I knew Jon and his determination to have the best car, and it’s certainly beautifully prepared, even after multiple owners. All setup sheets, data etc. I’ve loved this particular car since the day I saw it, and can’t belive i now own it, picking it up next weekend, first race will be Croft nostalgia festival. I’m not being ambitious, my aim is simply to match the lap time I can do in our 100e.

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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Fabulous, what a great car to have, well done!

I'll be on the look out at Croft!

Bert

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Saturday 17th March 2018
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WIll post more pics after I’ve collected it!






BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Very jealous!

Mitch911

227 posts

169 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Looks ace, congratulations

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Thanks folks. Raced my dads cars for years and it feels good to finally have one of my own!

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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After a very long day (Carlisle to Oxford and back again), its now safely ensconced in my garage, and I couldn’t be happier!


BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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Nice! When are you going out in it?

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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BertBert said:
Nice! When are you going out in it?
Hoping to find a suitably quiet track day to test it after a bit of fettling, then Croft Nostalgia Festival, then Oulton Gold Cup, then more next season after my bank balance has recovered. I can borrow a van and a trailer for this season, but I’ll look for a new cheap everyday car to replace my 208, as well as a trailer for next year.

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Congratulations! That's a good shout, look forward to future updates smile

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Be good to see it out at Croft!
ChevronB19 said:
Hoping to find a suitably quiet track day to test it after a bit of fettling, then Croft Nostalgia Festival, then Oulton Gold Cup, then more next season after my bank balance has recovered. I can borrow a van and a trailer for this season, but I’ll look for a new cheap everyday car to replace my 208, as well as a trailer for next year.

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Easter update - jobs list

1) fire extinguisher service (have a mate with his own company that will do this for free)

2) raise Seat - not keen that I can’t see the tips of the front wings

3) fix ludicrously expensive rev counter

4) fit larger fuel tank (races I’ll be doing are 40 mons, the current tank will only cope with about 30)

5) change rear track - 6mm too far forward on offside, vice versa on nearside

6) medical and license - haven’t raced for a while, but had an international license, so they last for 5 years without racing (new fact to me, assured by MSA)

7) test day, somewhere, hopefully ‘close’ to Carlisle, I.e. Croft

8) damn good clean, touch up on a few scarred parts, bolts etc need replacing for aesthetic reasons (hello ocd)

9) panic a bit about racing my very own car for the first time, especially engine costs

10) foot down

Wish me luck!

Little Pete

1,533 posts

94 months

Monday 2nd April 2018
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Fantastic! Hope to see you at Gold Cup.

ChevronB19

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5,777 posts

163 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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Update: after a track day at Croft (lotus on track, highly recommended), was out at Croft Nostalgia Festival today. Qualified 8th, but got fastest or second fastest sector times/speeds in a couple of places in qualifying and race. But after lap 8 massive misfire and undiagnosable at the circuit, so race tomorrow is off. To cap it all, my dad threw a rod through the block in his 100E in the same race, doh!

Having said that, I’m delighted at the performance of the car, if I managed to knit all the best sector times together I should get top 5 (I wish, not going to happen without more cash to spend on testing, and I am down to pennies, but still having fun - great having a Mrs who races a s well, so lots of support)

coppice

8,605 posts

144 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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Wish I had read this before I spent the weekend at Croft but well done anyway, and I will try to say hello at a future HSCC meeting .

In answer , belatedly, to your original question I'd have said either CSCC Swinging Sixties -40minute races , big grids or HSCC FF1600 - best racing in the UK , big fields and cars that don't lose value. But HSCC saloons ('touring cars' my arse) is a good choice. just needs bigger grids ...