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Hi all.
I'm working on an app to be useful to club racers and series organisers. From a driver point of view I'd like to be able to record look at my setups and notes, especially useful going back to the same tracks a year later to see where I need to improve. Someone suggested using the app on a mobile device as a laptimer for the pitwall (potentially for multiple cars), which would not only record laptimes but save them direct to the site, which you could of course add notes to.
From a series organiser's point of view it's straightforward to enter results and keep a standings table, that can account for fastest lap points, dropped scores etc, whatever the series rules are.
Down the line I'd love it to be a really useful library of laptimes and setups (unless you pay a subscription and elect to keep your notes private), and if you link video footage say from youtube you could drill in to the exact time of the lap.
If it sounds like something you'd be interested in, take a look at some of the early screenshots at https://www.facebook.com/trackbookuk/ . If you want to free trial the beta version get in touch. I'd like to start collating some feedback and features users think might be most useful.
Cheers!
I'm working on an app to be useful to club racers and series organisers. From a driver point of view I'd like to be able to record look at my setups and notes, especially useful going back to the same tracks a year later to see where I need to improve. Someone suggested using the app on a mobile device as a laptimer for the pitwall (potentially for multiple cars), which would not only record laptimes but save them direct to the site, which you could of course add notes to.
From a series organiser's point of view it's straightforward to enter results and keep a standings table, that can account for fastest lap points, dropped scores etc, whatever the series rules are.
Down the line I'd love it to be a really useful library of laptimes and setups (unless you pay a subscription and elect to keep your notes private), and if you link video footage say from youtube you could drill in to the exact time of the lap.
If it sounds like something you'd be interested in, take a look at some of the early screenshots at https://www.facebook.com/trackbookuk/ . If you want to free trial the beta version get in touch. I'd like to start collating some feedback and features users think might be most useful.
Cheers!
Wow... this points system would certainly be a challenge 
https://barc.blob.core.windows.net/barcnet/2018-ch...
https://barc.blob.core.windows.net/barcnet/2018-ch...
Ive played with this idea on and off a few times..
looking just at lap timing here's a few thoughts
im generally working on longer races 3 hrs plus and its important to keep a good track of running time and lap times..
at its most basic level i need a lap timer where i can see
Total elapsed time
TIme Remaining ( if its say a 3hr or 6 hr race)
Fastest lap
Last lap
Current running lap time.
Then it would be nice to have
1)Average lap time.
2)expected eta this lap ( mins:secs) calculated from running lap time and average lap time... might be nice to have some colour coding if say almost due or overdue.. and switch to overdue timer when goes past average lap time i.e. a count down to when due and a count up when overdue
3)The ability to adjust lap times would be hand, say if you missed the car bay a couple of secs but have the actual time on the timing screen. this would only effect past laps and not the overall session timing.
4) the ability to split a lap into 2 and enter the correct lap times, for say if you miss the car going past on one lap.
5) Getting more complicated here but it would be nice where there are multiple drivers to be able to mark when a driver gets in and out. this would record driver stint time and also mark best and average lap time for each driver per stint. ( a driver may have multiple stints in a race / session)
6) ability to put live notes against a lap. i.e. safety car, in lap, out lap or free text.
should give you a few things to play with... currently do it with some clever spreadsheets !!
looking just at lap timing here's a few thoughts
im generally working on longer races 3 hrs plus and its important to keep a good track of running time and lap times..
at its most basic level i need a lap timer where i can see
Total elapsed time
TIme Remaining ( if its say a 3hr or 6 hr race)
Fastest lap
Last lap
Current running lap time.
Then it would be nice to have
1)Average lap time.
2)expected eta this lap ( mins:secs) calculated from running lap time and average lap time... might be nice to have some colour coding if say almost due or overdue.. and switch to overdue timer when goes past average lap time i.e. a count down to when due and a count up when overdue
3)The ability to adjust lap times would be hand, say if you missed the car bay a couple of secs but have the actual time on the timing screen. this would only effect past laps and not the overall session timing.
4) the ability to split a lap into 2 and enter the correct lap times, for say if you miss the car going past on one lap.
5) Getting more complicated here but it would be nice where there are multiple drivers to be able to mark when a driver gets in and out. this would record driver stint time and also mark best and average lap time for each driver per stint. ( a driver may have multiple stints in a race / session)
6) ability to put live notes against a lap. i.e. safety car, in lap, out lap or free text.
should give you a few things to play with... currently do it with some clever spreadsheets !!
Cheers Alex 
Graham - that is fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to write all that down. I'll take that on board and put it in the requirements for the engineer persona / use case (or pitwall manager? What role would do all this?)
You could then envisage the driver jumping out, in the debrief having instant reports, graphs etc, no messing around with spreadsheets. In the future I'm really hoping to talk to someone from TSL (I did ask about 5 years ago) so this would be available instantly, no stop watch app required.
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I've just done some work for the series co-ordinator use case, for complicated entrant number specific point systems per round, that's going quite well
Graham - that is fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to write all that down. I'll take that on board and put it in the requirements for the engineer persona / use case (or pitwall manager? What role would do all this?)
You could then envisage the driver jumping out, in the debrief having instant reports, graphs etc, no messing around with spreadsheets. In the future I'm really hoping to talk to someone from TSL (I did ask about 5 years ago) so this would be available instantly, no stop watch app required.
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I've just done some work for the series co-ordinator use case, for complicated entrant number specific point systems per round, that's going quite well
For those interested I'll collate a list of requests on the app itself:
https://github.com/milescook/trackbook-app/issues
https://github.com/milescook/trackbook-app/issues
Edited by cookracing on Saturday 4th August 08:24
cookracing said:
Cheers Alex
Graham - that is fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to write all that down. I'll take that on board and put it in the requirements for the engineer persona / use case (or pitwall manager? What role would do all this?)
You could then envisage the driver jumping out, in the debrief having instant reports, graphs etc, no messing around with spreadsheets. In the future I'm really hoping to talk to someone from TSL (I did ask about 5 years ago) so this would be available instantly, no stop watch app required.
the name of the role varies on the size of the team so it could be team manager/engineer/car controller/Graham - that is fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to write all that down. I'll take that on board and put it in the requirements for the engineer persona / use case (or pitwall manager? What role would do all this?)
You could then envisage the driver jumping out, in the debrief having instant reports, graphs etc, no messing around with spreadsheets. In the future I'm really hoping to talk to someone from TSL (I did ask about 5 years ago) so this would be available instantly, no stop watch app required.
the Live stopwatch functionality is needed so you can work out exactly when your car is due round, for pit boards / radio messages or just checking its still circulating. where available at the moment we even work from target sector times on the timing screen to see if a car is late in each sector. I've also had the odd occasion where the circuit timing has missed a lap, so we record everything so we can prove it !! you cant always rely on circuit timing and somethimes it can also go down to you need your own app to time and record
G
I am watching this with interest and concur with Grahams nice to haves, driver swaps & stint time in particular (needed to ensure rule compliance and also satisfaction of paying customer splits), & safety car/general notes.
Set up and subsequent notes after the event are a must, I currently just log key times and after race notes against a google calendar event and can generate the years output as required but would be good to tie things even more together.
Set up and subsequent notes after the event are a must, I currently just log key times and after race notes against a google calendar event and can generate the years output as required but would be good to tie things even more together.
trixical said:
I am watching this with interest and concur with Grahams nice to haves, driver swaps & stint time in particular (needed to ensure rule compliance and also satisfaction of paying customer splits), & safety car/general notes.
Set up and subsequent notes after the event are a must, I currently just log key times and after race notes against a google calendar event and can generate the years output as required but would be good to tie things even more together.
Many thanks for the feedback.Even for my own sessions I've wanted to use something better than a notepad or try to read notes scrawled for a track a year or two ago!Set up and subsequent notes after the event are a must, I currently just log key times and after race notes against a google calendar event and can generate the years output as required but would be good to tie things even more together.
I'll incorporate those to some items here: https://github.com/milescook/trackbook-app/project... . If you'd like, you can subscribe to notifications when features get discussed or go live.
I seem to have an equal number of requests for championship administrators and drivers / engineers so the work will be split between the two personas.
I've been away but haven't stopped completely. There's now some decent improvements to the series results which should please championship co-ordinators. The app's version (unofficial of course) of the caterham graduates table looks in pretty good shape!
I've also been working on the backend system to the laptimer app, and have filled out the rest of the requirements I can see. For ease of visibility this entire app is split into two parts:
https://github.com/milescook/trackbook-roadmap/pro... - Mobile app (Laptimer)
https://github.com/milescook/trackbook-roadmap/pro... - Web app (series results, laptime analysis, detailed setup notes)
The two components do 'talk to each other' effectively using the same system, so for instance from the mobile app you can go back to the laptop, load up the web app and see in more detail lap reports, setups etc.
Any more requests / requirements feedback on either area are welcome. I'm hoping to have a first version of the laptimer ready in a couple of months.
I've also been working on the backend system to the laptimer app, and have filled out the rest of the requirements I can see. For ease of visibility this entire app is split into two parts:
https://github.com/milescook/trackbook-roadmap/pro... - Mobile app (Laptimer)
https://github.com/milescook/trackbook-roadmap/pro... - Web app (series results, laptime analysis, detailed setup notes)
The two components do 'talk to each other' effectively using the same system, so for instance from the mobile app you can go back to the laptop, load up the web app and see in more detail lap reports, setups etc.
Any more requests / requirements feedback on either area are welcome. I'm hoping to have a first version of the laptimer ready in a couple of months.
Hello all. I have lately been very busy on Trackbook! Looks a lot nicer, working on tidying up the mobile view, but it's useful to me. ANy suggestions / feedback welcome. I intend to work on the lap timer over the next few weeks Stay tuned...
http://www.trackbook.co.uk
Stay tuned...http://www.trackbook.co.uk
Edited by cookracing on Thursday 30th January 19:55
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