Hill climb engine modifications for Road Cars

Hill climb engine modifications for Road Cars

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Truckosaurus

11,183 posts

283 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Dave.S said:
What has not been mentioned is that there are x2 roadgoing classes
To be fair, there's different variations in the 'standard' and 'roadgoing' regs for pretty much every venue, series, and region, let alone all the different capacity class cutoffs.

Just turn up with whatever you've got and have fun. (I really should take my own advice and do something in 2021)...


df76

3,615 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Truckosaurus said:
Dave.S said:
What has not been mentioned is that there are x2 roadgoing classes
To be fair, there's different variations in the 'standard' and 'roadgoing' regs for pretty much every venue, series, and region, let alone all the different capacity class cutoffs.

Just turn up with whatever you've got and have fun. (I really should take my own advice and do something in 2021)...
Think it starts to help when the correct term "category" is used, and this helps to separate Standard Cars from Road Cars. Clubs then can decide the classes within each of those categories. Becomes a muddle otherwise. Any newcomer really just needs a proper read of the Blue Book regulations before doing anything at all, and then consider how their local club manages their classes.

Galveston

708 posts

198 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Dave.S said:
What has not been mentioned is that there are x2 roadgoing classes

Standard - No mods at all but limited to a max of 2000cc without forced induction (forced induction will add a penalty to your cc of 70% so you are limited to 1100cc) You are also have to use standard wheels and tyres.
Important to remember that the 'Standard Car' category only applies to cars built 2000 onwards, and more than 5,000 per annum (the generic model, not the specific derivative).

Truckosaurus

11,183 posts

283 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Galveston said:
Important to remember that the 'Standard Car' category only applies to cars built 2000 onwards ...
Does anyone know what the thinking behind that rule was? Seems somewhat arbitary.

df76

3,615 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Truckosaurus said:
Galveston said:
Important to remember that the 'Standard Car' category only applies to cars built 2000 onwards ...
Does anyone know what the thinking behind that rule was? Seems somewhat arbitary.
Will be safety related I'm sure, but not certain of the precise justification.

stevieturbo

17,229 posts

246 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Truckosaurus said:
Does anyone know what the thinking behind that rule was? Seems somewhat arbitary.
It was some strange notion to try and encourage newbies into the sport.

But let's face it...how many people into cars have an absolutely 100% standard car ?

And then throw in List 1A tyres, when many standard cars will have Ling Langs or similar Chinese tyres that are not on any list.

But as another said. Just arrive and have fun. None of the above really applies to a Volvo 66.

Galveston

708 posts

198 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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df76 said:
Truckosaurus said:
Galveston said:
Important to remember that the 'Standard Car' category only applies to cars built 2000 onwards ...
Does anyone know what the thinking behind that rule was? Seems somewhat arbitary.
Will be safety related I'm sure, but not certain of the precise justification.
Yeah, the original idea was modern-ish slow-ish safe-ish cars so the PPE requirements could be relaxed (helmet only) to help newcomers. Seems MUK weren't brave enough to relax PPE so when introduced it didn't make much sense.

Wind the clock forwards a few years and they've now relaxed PPE as originally intended.

Edited by Galveston on Wednesday 18th November 11:26

Galveston

708 posts

198 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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stevieturbo said:
But let's face it...how many people into cars have an absolutely 100% standard car ?
Enough, it's a very popular category in some parts of the country.

Truckosaurus

11,183 posts

283 months

Wednesday 18th November 2020
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Galveston said:
...Wind the clock forwards a few years and they've now relaxed PPE as originally intended...
Ah, I hadn't spotted that. Makes sense, if people can happily do trackdays in long sleeved T-shirts and trainers then makes sense to have an entry level class (some say, category biggrin ) with similar requirements.

(Relatedly, when I was checking early this year my old suit was well in date but the helmet wasn't...)