2021 licences

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Teem50

Original Poster:

31 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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If anyone's applying for a 2021 licence from MSUK note that they're doing a very significant discount if you apply before the end of Jan. You do have to tick the "yes, I'd like a discount" box mind you... 😁

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Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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The discount only applies to National licences and only if you held a licence in 2020.

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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National licenses are probably the majority and why should someone who didn't have a license in 2020 get a discount?

Seems a very fair offer to me.

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Kraken said:
National licenses are probably the majority and why should someone who didn't have a license in 2020 get a discount?

Seems a very fair offer to me.
I never gave an opinion in my post and I too think it is a great move from MSUK.

All I did was add some important information about the scope of the discount. rolleyes

ESD1711

390 posts

51 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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I was a first time licence holder in 2020 but with everything going on didn’t do any racing at all.

I’m ready for renewing my licence for 2021 hoping things will be a lot better this year.

Do I need to get another eye test done as part of the renewal? Having read the stuff I can’t decide if you need an eye test each year or if that’s just for your first application?

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Dan BSCS said:
I never gave an opinion in my post and I too think it is a great move from MSUK.

All I did was add some important information about the scope of the discount. rolleyes
Apologies then. It came over to me as a whinge that it was only for certain people and not everyone. Guess I spend too much time online and expect the worst from people. smile

drmotorsport

744 posts

243 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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ESD1711 said:
I was a first time licence holder in 2020 but with everything going on didn’t do any racing at all.

I’m ready for renewing my licence for 2021 hoping things will be a lot better this year.

Do I need to get another eye test done as part of the renewal? Having read the stuff I can’t decide if you need an eye test each year or if that’s just for your first application?
Was wondering that myself, it's not clear from the renewal form but i've not bothered seeing what the online renewal or blue book have to say yet, but I have an inkling it may be every 2 years. My beef for this year was that was my first year needing an eye test for the license, but couldn't get an eyetest because lockdown, and MSA helpdesk bod didn't like my regular eyetest which was only 6 months prior. Delayed season ensued.

ESD1711

390 posts

51 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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drmotorsport said:
Was wondering that myself, it's not clear from the renewal form but i've not bothered seeing what the online renewal or blue book have to say yet, but I have an inkling it may be every 2 years. My beef for this year was that was my first year needing an eye test for the license, but couldn't get an eyetest because lockdown, and MSA helpdesk bod didn't like my regular eyetest which was only 6 months prior. Delayed season ensued.
Yeah the renewal form I got in the post made me think it was needed - but the online version seemed to suggest maybe not.

Generally speaking you wouldn’t normally get an eye test yearly at the optician anyway?

Even the ‘free’ eye test you get as a member of msuk is only every two years.



Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,449 posts

223 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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is MUK sending out reminders for licence renewal?
I haven't received mine.

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
is MUK sending out reminders for licence renewal?
I haven't received mine.
Yes received mine yesterday.

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Kraken said:
Apologies then. It came over to me as a whinge that it was only for certain people and not everyone. Guess I spend too much time online and expect the worst from people. smile
No worries. beer

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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ESD1711 said:
Yeah the renewal form I got in the post made me think it was needed - but the online version seemed to suggest maybe not.

Generally speaking you wouldn’t normally get an eye test yearly at the optician anyway?

Even the ‘free’ eye test you get as a member of msuk is only every two years.
There is an extra piece of paper in the renewal pack that covers the medical situation. You may have missed it among the other bumf?

Kinkell

537 posts

187 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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The MS whatever need a reboot on their agenda. The racers ( competitors) pay for everything including track hire fees, scrutineering, marshalling and anything else submitted.
It's a non inclusive sport for rich dudes and enthusiasts like me funding the whole thing.
Slim it down and exclude the predatory liability corporate vultures to give it back to the good guys.

Dan BSCS

1,175 posts

236 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Kinkell said:
The MS whatever need a reboot on their agenda. The racers ( competitors) pay for everything including track hire fees, scrutineering, marshalling and anything else submitted.
It's a non inclusive sport for rich dudes and enthusiasts like me funding the whole thing.
Slim it down and exclude the predatory liability corporate vultures to give it back to the good guys.
WTF! Go home, you’re drunk! biggrin

ESD1711

390 posts

51 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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jsf said:
There is an extra piece of paper in the renewal pack that covers the medical situation. You may have missed it among the other bumf?
No I did see that, but again - it’s not very clear. Does ‘medical situation’ cover everything, including eye tests? Or does that mean the classes of licence which actually require a proper medical?

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Kinkell said:
The MS whatever need a reboot on their agenda. The racers ( competitors) pay for everything including track hire fees, scrutineering, marshalling and anything else submitted.
It's a non inclusive sport for rich dudes and enthusiasts like me funding the whole thing.
Slim it down and exclude the predatory liability corporate vultures to give it back to the good guys.
Off you go then. Nothing stopping you from setting up race series of your own with your own governing body etc.

Drumroll

3,755 posts

120 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Kinkell said:
The MS whatever need a reboot on their agenda. The racers ( competitors) pay for everything including track hire fees, scrutineering, marshalling and anything else submitted.
It's a non inclusive sport for rich dudes and enthusiasts like me funding the whole thing.
Slim it down and exclude the predatory liability corporate vultures to give it back to the good guys.
And in what world do you think this occurs in then?

Wouldn't matter who organised an event, they would still have the same liability.

Another question, who do you think should pay for you to go racing?

Also marshals don't get paid, in fact, it usually cost them to attend meetings. Most Medics could earn more money doing an extra shift at work than what they get from attending a meeting (plus many have to change shifts to be able to attend a meeting)

df76

3,627 posts

278 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Drumroll said:
Kinkell said:
The MS whatever need a reboot on their agenda. The racers ( competitors) pay for everything including track hire fees, scrutineering, marshalling and anything else submitted.
It's a non inclusive sport for rich dudes and enthusiasts like me funding the whole thing.
Slim it down and exclude the predatory liability corporate vultures to give it back to the good guys.
And in what world do you think this occurs in then?

Wouldn't matter who organised an event, they would still have the same liability.

Another question, who do you think should pay for you to go racing?

Also marshals don't get paid, in fact, it usually cost them to attend meetings. Most Medics could earn more money doing an extra shift at work than what they get from attending a meeting (plus many have to change shifts to be able to attend a meeting)
100% agree. Do find it surprising that people are so quick to criticise but have no real understanding of how it all works (and the risks / costs involved).

CaterBram

126 posts

175 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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jumping back to the question on eye tests.

If you are renewing a race licence from the age of 45 years and over are required to complete a vision test every 3 years. have a look at Section H 10.1.11(b)



ESD1711

390 posts

51 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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CaterBram said:
jumping back to the question on eye tests.

If you are renewing a race licence from the age of 45 years and over are required to complete a vision test every 3 years. have a look at Section H 10.1.11(b)
Cheers - that’s helpful.

So from the sounds of it us under 45 are only required to do it for first time applications then.

Although, as per 10.2.c they ‘recommend’ you’re checked on a yearly basis.

Think I’ll stick to being tested two-yearly as per the advice of the optician smile