Quick release battery restraint?

Quick release battery restraint?

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ReverendCounter

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6,087 posts

176 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Other than a pair of leather belts, is there a solution to frequent battery removal in the way of a quick release restraint/clamp?

This is for a standard size 12v rather than a compact/race battery - whenever I search for quick release battery I get nothing but QR terminal clamps. Any suggestions please?

HustleRussell

24,637 posts

160 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Depending on what series you’re competing in, there may be a stipulation in the regulations about how the battery shall be secured. Worth a check as you don’t want to change it and then get stopped at scrutineering.

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

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176 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Ah, I should have said this isn't for any competition - I just thought it would be a good place to ask.

HustleRussell

24,637 posts

160 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Thing is you need the battery to stay in under all kinds of circumstances, even if you have a big crash or end up upside down. A battery is heavy, full of very strong acid and obviously a source of ignition.

They used to let us secure fire extinguishers with over-centre catches, but they can come undone so the rules were changed to require the catch to be secured down with another clip or tie. At this point it takes about as long to unfasten the extinguisher as it would be with a screw type clip. Then the rules were changed to require a screw type clip.

Maybe it’s worth just ensuring that your battery tray is in good shape, the fixings aren’t corroded, maybe putting a captive nut in the tray and replacing the bolt with the same size used on the terminals such that removal and refitting is a one tool and one handed job?

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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You could try a ratchet tie down.

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

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176 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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If there isn't an off the shelf fix, seems a smaller ratchet strap is the best suggestion so far, but I think a couple of thick enough leather belts at 90deg might be a quick fix.

stevieturbo

17,256 posts

247 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Surely some sort of latch over/clasp would work ?

But really...how quick would you ever need to remove a battery that a couple of nuts/bolts doesn't facilitate ?

I can remove mine in about 60 seconds

Drumroll

3,754 posts

120 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Would never use leather or ratchet-type restraints. The reason being they are likely to deteriorate without you knowing,



As others have said I don't really understand why you would need to remove a battery quickly.

ReverendCounter

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Friday 29th January 2021
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Basically despite being new, the battery started to fail as soon as the temps dropped to near zero. It gets removed if the car isn't going to be used for a couple/few days, so until I get around to getting a replacement (which I'm not really in a hurry to do, seeing as the car sites there for days at a time at the moment) I want an easy way of removal as and when.

stevieturbo

17,256 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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ReverendCounter said:
Basically despite being new, the battery started to fail as soon as the temps dropped to near zero. It gets removed if the car isn't going to be used for a couple/few days, so until I get around to getting a replacement (which I'm not really in a hurry to do, seeing as the car sites there for days at a time at the moment) I want an easy way of removal as and when.
That's fine, but what is so difficult about removal at the minute ?

Is it held in with 600 bolts or something ? Even most OEM's are only 1 or 2 bolts. Not really a difficult or time consuming task.

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Why do you need to take the whole battery out? Why not just disconnect it. Sounds like you’ve got a short to Earth as well.

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

6,087 posts

176 months

Saturday 30th January 2021
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Arg.

Either there's a quick release battery restraint you can tell me about or there isn't!

Kraken

1,710 posts

200 months

Sunday 31st January 2021
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Well a bit more info would be useful. In every vehicle I own the battery can be removed in 30 seconds with just a 10mm ratchet (5 seconds with a powered ratchet) to undo one nut and then unhook the bar which holds it down. Obviously need quick release clamps on the terminals if you don't want to spend another 30 seconds undoing nuts on the terminals.

What is making yours more difficult than that? If that information was known then people could make more helpful suggestions.

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3,754 posts

120 months

Sunday 31st January 2021
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Kraken said:
Well a bit more info would be useful. In every vehicle I own the battery can be removed in 30 seconds with just a 10mm ratchet (5 seconds with a powered ratchet) to undo one nut and then unhook the bar which holds it down. Obviously need quick release clamps on the terminals if you don't want to spend another 30 seconds undoing nuts on the terminals.

What is making yours more difficult than that? If that information was known then people could make more helpful suggestions.
I have to agree, most people don't see an issue with just using the manufacturer's clamps.

Leather buckles are never going to hold a battery securely. That's without all the fun of fitting them in the first place.
Similar with ratchet straps. Whilst they will hold a battery tight you would still need to secure them and then open them enough to get a battery out.

Neither option from what I can see would be any quicker then just undoing a couple of nuts.

And we still don't really understand the need to keep on removing the battery.


andrewcliffe

955 posts

224 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Quickest is a bar with a couple of wing nuts. Two or three turns and some quick release terminals could see a battery changed very quickly indeed.

If you have a problem with the battery going flat, you could either use a battery isolator switch or a quick release terminal to disconnect the battery, or spend
a bit of time finding the current drain (although battery isolator / QR terminal isn't a bad idea). If you've got garaging with a electical supply, a CTEK or similar trickle charger would also keep the battery in good condition.



CanoeSniffer

926 posts

87 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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I use a beefy leather strap that loops over an M6 bolt, secured with a large flat washer and wingnut. Angled so it clamps the battery down into a tray as it tightens, never drawn so much as a second glance from scrutes and removal is 10 seconds (notwithstanding mucking about with terminals etc)

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

6,087 posts

176 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Thanks for the suggestions and advice Andrew and CS, much appreciated. The issue with the battery isn't drain unfortunately, it's just a new but faulty battery which loses a lot of charge overnight in cold weather, so it needs to be removed frequently.

andrewcliffe

955 posts

224 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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If its a new but faulty battery I'd be seeking a replacement under warranty.

ReverendCounter

Original Poster:

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176 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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Yes, that's underway but the outfit in question is being difficult so the credit card company is on the case - or so they said.

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Monday 1st February 2021
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I still don’t understand why the battery needs to be physically removed from the car. Am I missing something here?