AUDI TTCR (TT Cup Racing)
Discussion
indigorallye said:
bumskins said:
Good that it's garnering such interest and a good idea to utilise the road cars for a race series.
Must admit, FWD and automatic doesn't float my boat for track work, but should result in some close racing at least.
The combination works well in my Supercopa.Must admit, FWD and automatic doesn't float my boat for track work, but should result in some close racing at least.
Dan BSCS said:
It’s still wrong wheel drive though isn’t it. 
There’s always the BMW 1 Series Super Cup if you want RWD.Interesting that the 1 Series Super Cup is part of the BRSCC’s “Evolution Trophy” series, or whatever it is called, for developing series that don’t have enough competitors yet for their own series, and yet it was announced well before the TT series but hasn’t taken off as well, yet.
Both series are potentially very good options, and probably around about the same build costs?
andy97 said:
Dan BSCS said:
It’s still wrong wheel drive though isn’t it.
There’s always the BMW 1 Series Super Cup if you want RWD.Interesting that the 1 Series Super Cup is part of the BRSCC’s “Evolution Trophy” series, or whatever it is called, for developing series that don’t have enough competitors yet for their own series, and yet it was announced well before the TT series but hasn’t taken off as well, yet.
Both series are potentially very good options, and probably around about the same build costs?
Fun can be had in cars of both end drives at the end of the day, and a 116 is never going to be some kind of oversteering monster is it?
Plenty of FWD cars have plenty of opposite lock fun on track too. Some, more frequently than a lot of RWD cars.
andy97 said:
There’s always the BMW 1 Series Super Cup if you want RWD.
Interesting that the 1 Series Super Cup is part of the BRSCC’s “Evolution Trophy” series, or whatever it is called, for developing series that don’t have enough competitors yet for their own series, and yet it was announced well before the TT series but hasn’t taken off as well, yet.
Both series are potentially very good options, and probably around about the same build costs?
Evo Trophy looks like a good idea for BRSCC. Ideal place for all the "cheapest series ever, 80 cars already in build" series that appear yearly to go. I like the look of that Endurance Cup too, hope it gets good numbers but I think it'll end up as another TCR/supercopa festInteresting that the 1 Series Super Cup is part of the BRSCC’s “Evolution Trophy” series, or whatever it is called, for developing series that don’t have enough competitors yet for their own series, and yet it was announced well before the TT series but hasn’t taken off as well, yet.
Both series are potentially very good options, and probably around about the same build costs?
mat205125 said:
andy97 said:
Dan BSCS said:
It’s still wrong wheel drive though isn’t it.
There’s always the BMW 1 Series Super Cup if you want RWD.Interesting that the 1 Series Super Cup is part of the BRSCC’s “Evolution Trophy” series, or whatever it is called, for developing series that don’t have enough competitors yet for their own series, and yet it was announced well before the TT series but hasn’t taken off as well, yet.
Both series are potentially very good options, and probably around about the same build costs?
Fun can be had in cars of both end drives at the end of the day, and a 116 is never going to be some kind of oversteering monster is it?
Plenty of FWD cars have plenty of opposite lock fun on track too. Some, more frequently than a lot of RWD cars.
ribiero said:
andy97 said:
There’s always the BMW 1 Series Super Cup if you want RWD.
Interesting that the 1 Series Super Cup is part of the BRSCC’s “Evolution Trophy” series, or whatever it is called, for developing series that don’t have enough competitors yet for their own series, and yet it was announced well before the TT series but hasn’t taken off as well, yet.
Both series are potentially very good options, and probably around about the same build costs?
Evo Trophy looks like a good idea for BRSCC. Ideal place for all the "cheapest series ever, 80 cars already in build" series that appear yearly to go. I like the look of that Endurance Cup too, hope it gets good numbers but I think it'll end up as another TCR/supercopa festInteresting that the 1 Series Super Cup is part of the BRSCC’s “Evolution Trophy” series, or whatever it is called, for developing series that don’t have enough competitors yet for their own series, and yet it was announced well before the TT series but hasn’t taken off as well, yet.
Both series are potentially very good options, and probably around about the same build costs?
geeks said:
The 1 series... series is well over double the build cost compared to the Audi TT stuff. As for the Endurance one, do you mean the Supersports Championship? If so, no TCR/Ginettas etc etc allowed
Yes Supersports Endurance Cup thank lordy no factory race cars! i'll have a closer look at the regs and see if I can find any rentals 
Agreed on the buildcost.. But these spec series are really only there to make money for the series owner/organiser/sponsor through spec part sales. Build kit = £8k+vat for Audi is a lot cheaper than £13,500+vat for the 1 series. Big old punt for early adopters.
mat205125 said:
Much rather drive the TT.
Fun can be had in cars of both end drives at the end of the day, and a 116 is never going to be some kind of oversteering monster is it?
Plenty of FWD cars have plenty of opposite lock fun on track too. Some, more frequently than a lot of RWD cars.
Power oversteer > Power understeer, it's just a fact.Fun can be had in cars of both end drives at the end of the day, and a 116 is never going to be some kind of oversteering monster is it?
Plenty of FWD cars have plenty of opposite lock fun on track too. Some, more frequently than a lot of RWD cars.
And granted a 116i may not be a drift machine on a bone dry, warm track, but IME our race tracks are anything but that the majority of the time. A bit of damp, rain or even just a cold track and the TTs would be understeering like a pig on WOT, provided the electronic AIDS don't cut in first of course.
Edited by bumskins on Thursday 2nd March 15:37
I took the plunge.
My car was delivered fully-built, a couple of weeks ago at Oulton Park. The TTCR guys very kindly ran the car for me on the day (and another customer) so that we had full support whilst giving the cars their first on-track shakedown. My car had no issues all day.. just a few minor snagging issues to sort out (such as warning beeps going off in the cabin, a lot!).
We've since done another full day with the car at Brands Hatch. Early impressions are good. It is a relatively modest spec of car, but the engine and (manual) drivetrain are good, the handling is fun and encourages pushing the car hard. Power seems pretty good, especially for me coming from a N/A Fiesta to a turbocharged car. Weight is noticeable, they are not lightweight cars. But the brakes are up to the job in my opinion, and the Quaife diff helps.
All in all, I'm happy with it, and looking forward to seeing what 20+ of these cars on track at the same time will be like. Hoping for respectful driving standards.. although I'm fully aware that single-make racing comes with its inherent risks!!
Will update as the season gets underway.
My car was delivered fully-built, a couple of weeks ago at Oulton Park. The TTCR guys very kindly ran the car for me on the day (and another customer) so that we had full support whilst giving the cars their first on-track shakedown. My car had no issues all day.. just a few minor snagging issues to sort out (such as warning beeps going off in the cabin, a lot!).
We've since done another full day with the car at Brands Hatch. Early impressions are good. It is a relatively modest spec of car, but the engine and (manual) drivetrain are good, the handling is fun and encourages pushing the car hard. Power seems pretty good, especially for me coming from a N/A Fiesta to a turbocharged car. Weight is noticeable, they are not lightweight cars. But the brakes are up to the job in my opinion, and the Quaife diff helps.
All in all, I'm happy with it, and looking forward to seeing what 20+ of these cars on track at the same time will be like. Hoping for respectful driving standards.. although I'm fully aware that single-make racing comes with its inherent risks!!
Will update as the season gets underway.
SparrowHawk said:
I took the plunge.
My car was delivered fully-built, a couple of weeks ago at Oulton Park. The TTCR guys very kindly ran the car for me on the day (and another customer) so that we had full support whilst giving the cars their first on-track shakedown. My car had no issues all day.. just a few minor snagging issues to sort out (such as warning beeps going off in the cabin, a lot!).
We've since done another full day with the car at Brands Hatch. Early impressions are good. It is a relatively modest spec of car, but the engine and (manual) drivetrain are good, the handling is fun and encourages pushing the car hard. Power seems pretty good, especially for me coming from a N/A Fiesta to a turbocharged car. Weight is noticeable, they are not lightweight cars. But the brakes are up to the job in my opinion, and the Quaife diff helps.
All in all, I'm happy with it, and looking forward to seeing what 20+ of these cars on track at the same time will be like. Hoping for respectful driving standards.. although I'm fully aware that single-make racing comes with its inherent risks!!
Will update as the season gets underway.
Excellent, what car number are you? I will come and say hello during the season as I am likely to be in the paddock with the BRSCC alot this year My car was delivered fully-built, a couple of weeks ago at Oulton Park. The TTCR guys very kindly ran the car for me on the day (and another customer) so that we had full support whilst giving the cars their first on-track shakedown. My car had no issues all day.. just a few minor snagging issues to sort out (such as warning beeps going off in the cabin, a lot!).
We've since done another full day with the car at Brands Hatch. Early impressions are good. It is a relatively modest spec of car, but the engine and (manual) drivetrain are good, the handling is fun and encourages pushing the car hard. Power seems pretty good, especially for me coming from a N/A Fiesta to a turbocharged car. Weight is noticeable, they are not lightweight cars. But the brakes are up to the job in my opinion, and the Quaife diff helps.
All in all, I'm happy with it, and looking forward to seeing what 20+ of these cars on track at the same time will be like. Hoping for respectful driving standards.. although I'm fully aware that single-make racing comes with its inherent risks!!
Will update as the season gets underway.
Here she is...
We took delivery in February, at Oulton Park, where we held a thorough shakedown day with the guys from TTCR / Garage23
Since then we've also carried out 2 full days of testing at Brands Hatch
The car is great. Good power. Braking seems fairly strong; we have the option of PBS or DS3000 pads. Its not lightweight, you can really feel the weight; compared with the Ford Fiesta I'm used to, these TTCR cars appear to be coming in around 1300KG or thereabouts - so you do feel that in the corners particularly at corner exit.
But the car is really good fun to drive, the grip levels have surprised us. In the wet, traction is a weak point. The cars run an ATB diff, but in the wet the semi-slick control tyre struggles with the power. Great fun to hustle in the wet though.
Overall, we're really pleased with the car and feel like its going to be a very fun season of racing. It'll be great to see 20 of these cars going at it, over a race weekend.
First round is in April, at Brands Indy.
We took delivery in February, at Oulton Park, where we held a thorough shakedown day with the guys from TTCR / Garage23
Since then we've also carried out 2 full days of testing at Brands Hatch
The car is great. Good power. Braking seems fairly strong; we have the option of PBS or DS3000 pads. Its not lightweight, you can really feel the weight; compared with the Ford Fiesta I'm used to, these TTCR cars appear to be coming in around 1300KG or thereabouts - so you do feel that in the corners particularly at corner exit.
But the car is really good fun to drive, the grip levels have surprised us. In the wet, traction is a weak point. The cars run an ATB diff, but in the wet the semi-slick control tyre struggles with the power. Great fun to hustle in the wet though.
Overall, we're really pleased with the car and feel like its going to be a very fun season of racing. It'll be great to see 20 of these cars going at it, over a race weekend.
First round is in April, at Brands Indy.
The first ever round of TTCR went pretty well.
For those wondering how the first grid looked - it was impressive!
17 cars arrived for the inaugural race weekend at Brands Hatch.
A very healthy turn-out for a brand new series on its first ever race weekend.
It looks like grid sizes are going to be very healthy indeed.
The cars were immaculately presented.
And they were fast too. 54 seconds around the Brands Indy circuit.. not slow!
And it was seriously tight too. Just 1 second between the pole-sitter and 13th on the grid...!!
Our car for the season:
I had a shocker in Qualifying, making a poor setup error... and being just a few tenths off the pace meant I was all the way down in 11th!!! And so on the back foot all day from there. A tough first day in the office!
But the pace was so even, its great to see that all drivers will be arriving at each race weekend on the hunt for podiums and top5 finishes.
Exciting season ahead I reckon.
For those wondering how the first grid looked - it was impressive!
17 cars arrived for the inaugural race weekend at Brands Hatch.
A very healthy turn-out for a brand new series on its first ever race weekend.
It looks like grid sizes are going to be very healthy indeed.
The cars were immaculately presented.
And they were fast too. 54 seconds around the Brands Indy circuit.. not slow!
And it was seriously tight too. Just 1 second between the pole-sitter and 13th on the grid...!!
Our car for the season:
I had a shocker in Qualifying, making a poor setup error... and being just a few tenths off the pace meant I was all the way down in 11th!!! And so on the back foot all day from there. A tough first day in the office!
But the pace was so even, its great to see that all drivers will be arriving at each race weekend on the hunt for podiums and top5 finishes.
Exciting season ahead I reckon.
Glad it went well, I know the feedback from the BRSCC has been positive so well done there!
I am still hoping to join you all for next season, also not sure we have a crossover round with either Supersports or C1's for me to come and have a proper nose about but if we do I will make sure to give you a wave
I am still hoping to join you all for next season, also not sure we have a crossover round with either Supersports or C1's for me to come and have a proper nose about but if we do I will make sure to give you a wave
I'm not aware of any major reliability issues, no. I can't speak for the cars that didn't finish Race 2; I didn't see what went on with them. But there were no major pile-ups or significant race incidents. And there weren't loads of cars being pulled apart in the paddock.
I think a few people had the odd teething problem. But that was more likely down to this being the first race outing for almost every car on the grid - rather than being reliability issues.
I think a few people had the odd teething problem. But that was more likely down to this being the first race outing for almost every car on the grid - rather than being reliability issues.
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