Engine start

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xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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looks like my first engine start is quickly approaching, a few small fabrication jobs left to do and a few more sensors to connect to the Megasquirt and should be good to go

wannabe-racer

139 posts

67 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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What engine have you used?

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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It’s an LS1 4.8 twin turbo which I built with quite a few mods, most of the fabrication has been done by myself (exhausts, intake, dry sump and water meth tanks) running Megaquirt MS3 Ultimate staged injection (16 injectors) boost and traction control

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Sunday 16th September 2018
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xrtim said:
It’s an LS1 4.8 twin turbo which I built with quite a few mods, most of the fabrication has been done by myself (exhausts, intake, dry sump and water meth tanks) running Megaquirt MS3 Ultimate staged injection (16 injectors) boost and traction control
What turbos are you running again? Sorry I can’t remember.

Can’t wait to see the final dunk numbers for this car. Should make stack of power. smile

Is it an iron or ally block? Have you thought about getting a ally 5.3 block? Any reason why not? They run the same bore I think. The 4.8s just run a shorter stroke (I think and could be wrong).

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Sunday 16th September 2018
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chuntington101 said:
What turbos are you running again? Sorry I can’t remember.

Can’t wait to see the final dunk numbers for this car. Should make stack of power. smile

Is it an iron or ally block? Have you thought about getting a ally 5.3 block? Any reason why not? They run the same bore I think. The 4.8s just run a shorter stroke (I think and could be wrong).
Turbo's are Holset HX35, 120mm Twin Scroll housing, should start boosting around 2800rpm
Its an Iron block got a great deal from Summit Racing for a new block and at the time when I researched Iron vs Aluminium I read quit a few posts saying that at around 800hp the liners become unstable so iron it was, 4.8 uses shorter stroke crankshaft than 5.3 but same bore, changed the reluctor wheel to a 58 tooth, decided to go with shorter stroke for the extra rpm potential it provides, figured that the motor wont be struggling for HP or Torque. Took a while to sort out forged rods and pistons as I wanted to use flat top pistons not dished, research went on and on until I got there

chuntington101

5,733 posts

236 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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I thought the ally 5.3s were alright as they have loads of material between the cylinders. Still would be a simpler upgrade / swapover if you ever decided.

How much power are the turbos good for each? What do you think your Max Rpm will be?

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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I think I will stay with the iron block at $350 for a brand new finished honed block is unbelievable (+tax and shipping) and if I wanted the car lighter I could always look in the mirror, quite a lot to loose there. Turbos are good for 600hp each and I wouldn’t want to rev past 7500rpm although internals fitted could probably go higher

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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OP, how come you wanted flat top pistons? Are you running them at deck height or down the bore?

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Monday 17th September 2018
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Boosted LS1 said:
OP, how come you wanted flat top pistons? Are you running them at deck height or down the bore?
Didn't want the extra weight of the dish in the pistons and thought the squish would be better with the flat top, running at deck height compression is 8.9 to 1.



Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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^ Thanks, makes sense. When I built my first turbo ls1 I used the truck heads (fitted with ls6 sodium exhaust valves) to lower the compression. I also paid out a fortune to have custom pistons made with a dish which mirrored the quench pad in the head. I sent the manufacturer a piece of cardboard cut to shape :-) Compression was quite low but I had the option of fitting stock ls6 heads to raise it 2 clicks.

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Thursday 4th October 2018
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Can't believe it, motor started on fist attempt admittedly running quite rich but Megasquirt started to autotune that down a bit before I had to shut down. Had a couple of small fuel leaks from the fuel rails and an oil leak from the turbo return but over the moon its all working. Alot of tuning ahead to get it running nice but sounds awesome.
After I sort that, its engine out and get the body ordered, I'm being drawn to the dark grey with gold wheels, it will be nice to get back to ordering parts and installing them rather than custom fabrications all the time

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Friday 5th October 2018
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Fantastic news, what a result. It's ace when they fire up.

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Been held up for some time, after engine start found out that the alternator wasn't working so after a bit of research decided on an uprated version from Mechman and it just happens that the 240 amp billet polished one wire LS version was on offer. It has just arrived and looks great, shame it won't be seen in the engine bay. All I need to do now is change out the battery wiring for 335amp cable and check to see if I need a shorter belt as it uses a smaller pulley, we will see

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Sunday 18th November 2018
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And a little bit of welding, charge cooler feed pipe just needs cutting to length and a screw tip welding on, alternator needs new mount making as the mounting holes are slightly different, hopefully by the end of next week I will be back where I started with a running engine ready to continue tuning

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Sunday 18th November 2018
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And the alternator is in, just the tensioner to make and it’s done, new battery cable and fittings should be with me Wednesday .

845ste

577 posts

127 months

Monday 3rd December 2018
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incredible work !clap

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Thank you
I'm working on the chargecooler pipe work at the moment and have remade the Ultima heater bypass assembly as I am unhappy with the fit in the engine compartment and because my installation has the pipe work routed to the rear and into a gearbox oil laminova cooler/heater and re routes to the opposite side of the engine bay back to the bypass assembly. Picture is off the new assembly

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Water/Methanol parts have come today, fitted the jets to the intake manifold and plumbed up, fitting the rest of the parts tomorrow so will be up and running soon

BogBeast

1,136 posts

263 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Please say you will have a full video and sound of the next start? thumbup

xrtim

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247 posts

107 months

Thursday 20th December 2018
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I will see if I can post a video over the holidays but I doubt It will be today’s attempt, I will be to busy watching all readings to sort it and will probably need a 7 year old to show me how to upload the video
Tim