55" OLED or 65" LED TV...

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FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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I'm thinking I'll change my existing audio system at the same time which means a new AV Amp and speakers, so I'm not that bothered about the onboard B6 speakers.

Haven't got a PS4 and won't use it for gaming, but I currently use an ethernet connected WD digital player to watch downloaded SD/HD video on my current TV, so I'm wondering if there's a similar stand alone digital player which will handle UHD files? Or can I access my LAN from the B6 and play files direct from my NAS?

Digitalize

2,850 posts

134 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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It will have some form of app on the TV itself, looks like there's a Plex app available for WebOS 3.0, get Plex running on your NAS and you'll have a lovely little setup.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Digitalize said:
It will have some form of app on the TV itself, looks like there's a Plex app available for WebOS 3.0, get Plex running on your NAS and you'll have a lovely little setup.
Great, thanks.

chris watton

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22,477 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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Yes, the TV can play MKV files from a HDD attached, it even has a USB3 connection.

On another subject, I am wondering if it's worth upgrading my centre speaker.

I upgraded the fronts to these:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/floorstanders/...

And they are great for the price, and also upgraded the sub for a Tannoy

The centre and rears are all that's left from my original 5.1 set up, with rear slim floor standers at the rear and the centre. The rears are fine, but would it be worth upgrading the centre for something like this:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/centre-speaker...

It has to be quite small as it sits on the fire mantelpiece just below the TV.

legzr1

3,843 posts

138 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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The centre channel is very important and it's normally best practise to 'voice' the front three channels with the same speakers - don't Tannoy make a matching centre channel speaker?

chris watton

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Wednesday 19th October 2016
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legzr1 said:
The centre channel is very important and it's normally best practise to 'voice' the front three channels with the same speakers - don't Tannoy make a matching centre channel speaker?
They do, but they are £400ish and way too large. There would be too much of a overhang from the mantelpiece.

legzr1

3,843 posts

138 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Fair enough.

Perhaps something smaller from a different range from Tannoy might suit.

davek_964

8,796 posts

174 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Beginning to consider a new tv myself. A few people at work bought "50 4k TVs a week or so back for about £500 and although they are obviously not top of the range it did sound like a tempting cheap step to 4k. But then I decided I was still fairly happy with my tv picture (pioneer plasma) even though it's probably 10 years old - because I use my projector for films and games anyway.

But, last night I switched from projector to TV and realise a 42" TV is a bit small! So I might have a browse at the shops. Not sure I could live with a £500 one so will be comparing the 55" OLEDs with the Samsung equivalent. The thing that makes me hesitate is that I'd still prefer to use the projector for films etc so why spend £2k on a TV....

varsas

4,004 posts

201 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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davek_964 said:
Beginning to consider a new tv myself. A few people at work bought "50 4k TVs a week or so back for about £500 and although they are obviously not top of the range it did sound like a tempting cheap step to 4k. But then I decided I was still fairly happy with my tv picture (pioneer plasma) even though it's probably 10 years old - because I use my projector for films and games anyway.

But, last night I switched from projector to TV and realise a 42" TV is a bit small! So I might have a browse at the shops. Not sure I could live with a £500 one so will be comparing the 55" OLEDs with the Samsung equivalent. The thing that makes me hesitate is that I'd still prefer to use the projector for films etc so why spend £2k on a TV....
I've only got an OLED because my PJ is out of use for a few years, otherwise I'd have spent the money on a new PJ. In your situation I'd but a cheap Samsung/Sony/LG 55inch (not sure 50 is a big enough jump over 43 to justify it) TV. I wouldn't even be fussed by 4k, if something is good enough for you to care about (films, Game of Thrones etc) you'll be watching it on the PJ, if you don't care then it doesn't matter that it's 'only' 2k.

davek_964

8,796 posts

174 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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varsas said:
I've only got an OLED because my PJ is out of use for a few years, otherwise I'd have spent the money on a new PJ. In your situation I'd but a cheap Samsung/Sony/LG 55inch (not sure 50 is a big enough jump over 43 to justify it) TV. I wouldn't even be fussed by 4k, if something is good enough for you to care about (films, Game of Thrones etc) you'll be watching it on the PJ, if you don't care then it doesn't matter that it's 'only' 2k.
I'd assumed I would go to 55", but having properly measured up last night I'm not so sure. Where the TV is, 55" would actually cause a couple of issues - and I think it's probably physically larger than I want. 50" may be perfect though - my existing 42" has quite a large area surrounding the screen and a 50" Samsung is barely any bigger. So that might be quite a neat solution.
May also look into projectors. Did a quick search last night and found the Epson 7300 / 9300 which - although not true 4k - seem to be a reasonably priced way to project 4k pictures until prices of the real 4k stuff gets more affordable.

varsas

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201 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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davek_964 said:
varsas said:
I've only got an OLED because my PJ is out of use for a few years, otherwise I'd have spent the money on a new PJ. In your situation I'd but a cheap Samsung/Sony/LG 55inch (not sure 50 is a big enough jump over 43 to justify it) TV. I wouldn't even be fussed by 4k, if something is good enough for you to care about (films, Game of Thrones etc) you'll be watching it on the PJ, if you don't care then it doesn't matter that it's 'only' 2k.
I'd assumed I would go to 55", but having properly measured up last night I'm not so sure. Where the TV is, 55" would actually cause a couple of issues - and I think it's probably physically larger than I want. 50" may be perfect though - my existing 42" has quite a large area surrounding the screen and a 50" Samsung is barely any bigger. So that might be quite a neat solution.
May also look into projectors. Did a quick search last night and found the Epson 7300 / 9300 which - although not true 4k - seem to be a reasonably priced way to project 4k pictures until prices of the real 4k stuff gets more affordable.
I haven't seen reviews of the 7300/9300 yet but I assume they are standard LCD type PJ. Now, don't get me wrong, my PJ was an Epson 6100 which I really liked however for under £2k you can get the Sony VPL HW45 which uses SXRD panels (kind of like LCD, but reflective instead of transmissive) which gives better black levels and contrast. As I say, this is without reviews of the Epson's but I'd go for better contrast/black levels over 4k enhancement. Some reviews here:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/vplhw45es-201609234...
http://www.whathifi.com/awards/2016/projectors


Bit of a Unit

6,663 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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Going through this decision. The helpful young lad in john Lewis tried to steer me away from the LG OLEDs towards the Panasonic 65DX902B. His reasoning was the fact that I watch a lot of sport and although the 4K stuff is great availability is limited and the HD stuff would disappoint on the OLED.

Any first had experience OP?

Cheers.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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Bit of a Unit said:
Going through this decision. The helpful young lad in john Lewis tried to steer me away from the LG OLEDs towards the Panasonic 65DX902B. His reasoning was the fact that I watch a lot of sport and although the 4K stuff is great availability is limited and the HD stuff would disappoint on the OLED.

Any first had experience?

Cheers.
Of dumb sales assistants? Yeah loads.

HD stuff on the OLED is stunning, much better than LCD, even a direct backlight local dimming set like the 902 can't compete.

OLED can make decent DVDs look stunning.


The one area where the 902 may be better, is 4k HDR material if you like to crank your picture up bright.


I do wonder about some of these sales people.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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Watching 4K sport is superb (I only have BT). HD is pretty good for off the aerial though horses for courses in the bit rate lottery etc. 1080p off Bluray is excellent. Netflix is good in HD and excellent in 4K. SD off the aerial is naff. SD DVD is not too bad.

When I viewed this TV, there was the HD only oled next to it. Both on bbc1 off air and they were on par excellent.

bloke on JL has not spent time with it.

Not had any other types to compare.

chris watton

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22,477 posts

259 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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Had the LG OLED a week now and loving it still. The lights and darks are so much better than our old plasma, plus the colours are more vibrant.

We played Battlefield 1 on the PS4 on it last night, and that looks gorgeous too.

I bought Avatar on BR (had it on DVD), and even in 'just' BR form the picture is stunning. because there is no backlight, when the picture is meant to be black, it really is black, rather than the normal dark charcoal grey.

So, all in all, I am glad I pushed the boat out and plumped for the OLED rather than LED.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Sunday 23rd October 2016
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If you want eye porn, then google th LG HDR demo files. Dump onto a data stick and play it from that.

Here tis.

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?tag=hdr

Takes a while to download, slow server I suppose, one or two are the wrong format for LG but the Chess one is superb.

Edited by jmorgan on Monday 24th October 09:09

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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jmorgan said:
If you want eye porn, then google th LG HDR demo files. Dump onto a data stick and play it from that.

Here tis.

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?tag=hdr

Takes a while to download, slow server I suppose, one or two are the wrong format for LG but the Chess one is superb.

Edited by jmorgan on Monday 24th October 09:09
They do look pretty good...

Having my LG B6 calibrated tomorrow. Let's see what difference that makes.

Then I need to get a new AV amp and speakers to sort out the audio.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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Calibration has definitely improved things.
Didn't realise though that the TV stores different settings for each input, so now I need to do it again for my blu-ray player and Humax Freeview box.

chris watton

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Wednesday 26th October 2016
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Calibration has definitely improved things.
Didn't realise though that the TV stores different settings for each input, so now I need to do it again for my blu-ray player and Humax Freeview box.
I noticed that in the settings. I will change the HDMI slot that will plug into a 4K BR player when I buy one. At the moment, I have only one HDMI lead going to the TV (ARC input) with the rest (HTPC, PS1/PS2 & SKY) connected to the AV receiver

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

236 months

Wednesday 26th October 2016
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chris watton said:
I noticed that in the settings. I will change the HDMI slot that will plug into a 4K BR player when I buy one. At the moment, I have only one HDMI lead going to the TV (ARC input) with the rest (HTPC, PS1/PS2 & SKY) connected to the AV receiver
The thing is, if you route different sources through the AV amp and have one HDMI connecting that to the TV, you won't be able to have different settings for each source.

What is the best way to handle this?