Coaxial output from DVD or BD player - question about bits

Coaxial output from DVD or BD player - question about bits

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TonyRPH

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Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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I have an old Sony DVD player (DVP-NS905V) and I also have a Sony BluRay player (BDP-S550).

I have a few music video DVDs and a couple of them state 24bit PCM audio on the covers however...

When playing said DVDs and taking an audio feed from the coax output, I'm only getting 16/44k

Looking in the setup for both players, there is an option "48kHz/96kHz PCM - 96kHz/24bit" which I have set - but this makes no difference.

From what I can tell - it looks as though the coax output is limited to 16/44 - is this correct?

I can't find anything in the specs that confirms this.

Also - I seem to recall several moons ago reading a review of DVD players where the selling point for them was the fact they *do* actually output 96kHz so I suspect my players are limited in this respect?


tankplanker

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279 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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What are you plugging them into? Does that also support higher bit rates?

Angrybiker

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90 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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All this was always very inconsistent with lots of smallprint about high res modes only in certain circumstances.

If I were you I'd do as I've done - rip them all onto media PC, connect that via USB to a nice DAC (like a BMC); and HDMI into TV - Kodi / Jriver will play all high res fine without you having to muck about with anything.

TonyRPH

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Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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@tankplanker - I'm plugging into an Audiolab Q DAC - it supports up to 192kHz (2 channel of course) so should be no issue there.

@Angrybiker - I was beginning to think that ripping was the solution - however even though my 2 channel setup relies largely on streaming flac, I have no (easy) means of streaming video, and I'm reluctant to start messing about with more stuff.

As these DVDs are very rarely watched, I was just looking to extract the audio, hence the tests to see what the bit rates were.

Would I even hear the difference between 24/96 and 16/48 - I doubt it!!

It just seemed rational to rip them to the highest bit rate available hence the testing.

I might just hit Ebay and buy a Pioneer DVD737 or similar, as following a bit of research, it looks as though these will output 96k.

Or I could just rip them and then extract the audio - however at least one of them has a lousy layout, in that the individual songs are not set out in chapters, so you need to view it to select the tracks...

tankplanker

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279 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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Are they DVD-A discs? The format of those is a little weird as when the format was first released they would cap the bit rate 2-channel 16-bit/48 kHz PCM signal on some players, and some would pass it through as the native format if the disk flagged the audio properly. I think with later players would output the format properly?

When I used to have my DVD-A/SACD player I had to plug it into my amp using the analog outputs to get the full six channels for DVD-A using the DAC in the DVD, and use COAX if I wanted to use the DAC in my amp. My Amp didn't support anything better than 48 kHz over toslink. It was such a faff.

TonyRPH

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Tuesday 23rd May 2017
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They're 'standard' DVD video discs.

I to have been down the DVDA route (never again!).

Most (all?) of the disks have a selectable stereo sound track - in fact even back when I played them through my surround system I always selected the two channel option as the DTS 5.1 sound was quite unnatural.


TonyRPH

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Wednesday 24th May 2017
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Just to update this.

A little more research has revealed that some older players were capable of 24/96 output from the coax socket, however this could still be restricted to 24/48 by the author of the DVD.

So it's probably pretty pointless even trying to use a player to rip the audio tracks.

I ripped one of the DVDs last night, and the audio is only 24/48 when played back in VLC.