PC sound - bookshelves or desktop speakers?

PC sound - bookshelves or desktop speakers?

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TonyRPH

12,971 posts

168 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Thanks, so I have found a website that converts audio files to FLAC but it is unable to convert a track from an audio CD. I assume i need to convert it from CDA to something else and then to Flac, but would it then sound better, or worse than it was when i started??
You need to 'rip' the CD to .wav format, and then convert the .wav to .flac.

The size of the .wav file will be considerably reduced with no audible loss of quality, and you will also be able to add metadata to the .flac file (e.g. song title, genre etc. etc.).

There are programs like dbpoweramp and exact audio copy for windows, that will rip a CD to flac.


Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Thank very much, i might give it a go but i have just realised i binned just about all my CD's years ago so i suppose its a bit redundant smile

otherman

2,191 posts

165 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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TonyRPH said:
You need to 'rip' the CD to .wav format, and then convert the .wav to .flac.
Or just keep the .wav, given that hard drive size is no issue these days.

TonyRPH

12,971 posts

168 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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otherman said:
TonyRPH said:
You need to 'rip' the CD to .wav format, and then convert the .wav to .flac.
Or just keep the .wav, given that hard drive size is no issue these days.
Except that you can't tag wav* files, so you end up with a load of music bit not knowing what it is....

  • well you can, but it's not very easy and you can't store as many tags.
See this article

TonyRPH

12,971 posts

168 months

Sunday 9th September 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Thank very much, i might give it a go but i have just realised i binned just about all my CD's years ago so i suppose its a bit redundant smile
Any 'hi res' music you buy will likely be delivered in the flac format.


geeks

9,169 posts

139 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Well here it all is!


Pair of these https://www.richersounds.com/hi-fi/standmount-spea... with the earlier linked Nobsound Amp/DAC.

Still impressed with it all. Amp seems to struggle to provide much bass at low volume but there is a good amount there when turned up. Anyone looking to play with lossless stuff for free take a look at Tidal (https://tidal.com/gb) , they do a 30 day freebie service and the library is excellent along with the quality!

TameRacingDriver

18,079 posts

272 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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The lack of bass at low volumes is likely more to do with the fletcher munson curves - which in laymans terms means that the human ears are less sensitive to the frequency extremes at low sound pressure levels.

You've probably heard of systems with a "loudness" button. That is what it does - it boosts the lower and higher frequencies at lower volumes to compensate for this anomaly.

As you're using a computer then you have multiple ways of applying loudness or EQ fixes. smile

tenohfive

Original Poster:

6,276 posts

182 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Looks good - Mordaunt Shorts?

One of my speakers is about 8-10mm lower than the other - to get away with full size bookshelves I've put one desk next to another, hence the slight difference. I'm not really sure if a) it's worth raising up full stop, b) what to use if so and c) whether or not it'll look a bit rubbish if I do. Anyone done similar?

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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tenohfive said:
Looks good - Mordaunt Shorts?

One of my speakers is about 8-10mm lower than the other - to get away with full size bookshelves I've put one desk next to another, hence the slight difference. I'm not really sure if a) it's worth raising up full stop, b) what to use if so and c) whether or not it'll look a bit rubbish if I do. Anyone done similar?
Its only a centimetre..I wouldn't worry..

TameRacingDriver

18,079 posts

272 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Maybe get some up-pointing speaker stands. They would make more difference than having the speakers flat on a desk. The best solution are standalone stands but you may not want or have space for those.

geeks

9,169 posts

139 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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TameRacingDriver said:
The lack of bass at low volumes is likely more to do with the fletcher munson curves - which in laymans terms means that the human ears are less sensitive to the frequency extremes at low sound pressure levels.

You've probably heard of systems with a "loudness" button. That is what it does - it boosts the lower and higher frequencies at lower volumes to compensate for this anomaly.

As you're using a computer then you have multiple ways of applying loudness or EQ fixes. smile
Any recommendations on a simple software EQ?

tenohfive said:
Looks good - Mordaunt Shorts?

One of my speakers is about 8-10mm lower than the other - to get away with full size bookshelves I've put one desk next to another, hence the slight difference. I'm not really sure if a) it's worth raising up full stop, b) what to use if so and c) whether or not it'll look a bit rubbish if I do. Anyone done similar?
Yup thems the ones.

vsonix

3,858 posts

163 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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geeks said:
Well here it all is!


Pair of these https://www.richersounds.com/hi-fi/standmount-spea... with the earlier linked Nobsound Amp/DAC.

Still impressed with it all. Amp seems to struggle to provide much bass at low volume but there is a good amount there when turned up. Anyone looking to play with lossless stuff for free take a look at Tidal (https://tidal.com/gb) , they do a 30 day freebie service and the library is excellent along with the quality!
You could create a panoramic wallpaper that splits a larger image over both screens or have a different one on each. The same one on both makes my OCD gland twitch

TameRacingDriver

18,079 posts

272 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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Geeks - try this (has bass boost and loudness but you should only use one)... It's possible you might not have the option as well but it's there in mine.

https://www.wikihow.com/Boost-the-Bass-on-Windows

Or alternatively use the controls on your favourite music player, but the windows solution is more universal.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th September 2018
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TonyRPH said:
You need to 'rip' the CD to .wav format, and then convert the .wav to .flac.
DB Poweramp will rip directly to FLAC.

Free trial available too.

https://www.dbpoweramp.com

garylythgoe

806 posts

222 months

Friday 14th September 2018
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Late to the party, but get some used Bowers & Wilkins MM-1 speakers.

PC specific, USB connection, and they sound superb for desktop speakers.

tenohfive

Original Poster:

6,276 posts

182 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Quick thread update and request for a bit more advice:

Firstly - the setup itself is working nicely. And SWMBO is happy, because with the lights off one of the coloured bulbs on the TV (used as bias lighting) reflects off the metallic surrounds of the tweeter and mid/bass driver and she thinks they look really good when it does. She's right. Sound wise I'm very happy with the setup.

Anyway. I've now decided to pick up some Chromecast Audio's and use them for a multi-room setup so I'm now starting from scratch for a sound setup in the front room. I'm pretty settled on Q3020's (not the 'i' unfortunately) as bookshelves, but I'll need an amp that'll take both an aux or RCA feed from the Chromecast Audio, plus the TV input (optical being the obvious choice, but honestly I don't care what - it's an old plasma used for Paw Patrol & Love Island duties.) I've been trawling through the likes of SMSL/Lepy/Nobsound etc on Amazon but I'm struggling to see anything at a reasonable price. Do I need to up the budget and consider something like a Tangent Ampster, or a £150 stereo or AVR from RS?

TonyRPH

12,971 posts

168 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Unless you need remote control, just get a used vintage amp off Ebay.

It'll sound way better than those Cheap Chinese things.


tenohfive

Original Poster:

6,276 posts

182 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Any particular brands to look out for?

TonyRPH

12,971 posts

168 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Pioneer, Sony, but prices can get a bit silly on some of those.

Denon is another good call - the PMA250 or similar.

Denon PMA250 II £70

Denon PMA 350 £65

Heres a complete compact Denon system for £89

Another compact Denon (amp only) £73

The Denon stuff sounds pretty good - the compacts are good too (particularly the last one)




Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

247 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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TonyRPH said:
Unless you need remote control, just get a used vintage amp off Ebay.

It'll sound way better than those Cheap Chinese things.
Back in about 1990 I bought an old quadraphonic amplifier to run one pair of speakers.

The nice thing was it had a master volume and then a separate volume control for each of the four speakers but seeing as I only had two bi-wirable speakers I could seperatly control the volume of each speaker cone.

Unnecessary, but nice to be able to do it!