Help selecting 4K TV

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ahas

183 posts

87 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Coming to party late I know I'm surprised no one suggested an Ambilight TV, probably will be shot down shoot
Not going to be top of the spec but in terms of easy viewing pleasure it's up there.
I think great quality picture once calibrated, but the ambilight just adds to experience. Not a gimmick to me.

I think I paid £430 for our 58" from Costco with 5yr warranty. I wouldn't have anything else.

Anyways just my tuppence

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
I had my xg9005 delivered yesterday it's the most annoying TV I've ever used
Haha, why?


gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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ahas said:
Coming to party late I know I'm surprised no one suggested an Ambilight TV, probably will be shot down shoot
Not going to be top of the spec but in terms of easy viewing pleasure it's up there.
I think great quality picture once calibrated, but the ambilight just adds to experience. Not a gimmick to me.

I think I paid £430 for our 58" from Costco with 5yr warranty. I wouldn't have anything else.

Anyways just my tuppence
I mentioned the Philips earlier.

Great sets, have to be careful on model and size as some IPS and some VA panels.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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illmonkey said:
KD55XF9005BU ordered!
Remind me and I will give you some settings to get you up and running.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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gizlaroc said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
I had my xg9005 delivered yesterday it's the most annoying TV I've ever used
Haha, why?
The bloody apps! Can't have apps for BBC etc it's all under the Sony experience and you can't use itv C4 without youview but you can't use that without an Ariel and I don't have one!

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
The bloody apps! Can't have apps for BBC etc it's all under the Sony experience and you can't use itv C4 without youview but you can't use that without an Ariel and I don't have one!
You can sort out your home page, and there is a shortcut for the apps on the bottom of the screen you can add apps to as well.

I plugged an aerial in for 30 seconds to get the apps to work. Many TVs are like this now with the apps.



Nezquick

1,461 posts

126 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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illmonkey said:
KD55XF9005BU ordered!
Where exactly have you ordered it from as I can't find one online anywhere. I can find the XG, just not the XF.

I need a new TV and this one could be ideal. Otherwise, it's save up a bit longer and buy the LG OLED 48CX.

illmonkey

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18,197 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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gizlaroc said:
illmonkey said:
KD55XF9005BU ordered!
Remind me and I will give you some settings to get you up and running.
Thanks, Once it's here I'll post back I'm sure.

Just going to order the Sky UHD for my SkyQ...

Nezquick said:
illmonkey said:
KD55XF9005BU ordered!
Where exactly have you ordered it from as I can't find one online anywhere. I can find the XG, just not the XF.

I need a new TV and this one could be ideal. Otherwise, it's save up a bit longer and buy the LG OLED 48CX.
https://www.richersounds.com/sony-kd55xf9005bu.htm...

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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gizlaroc said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
The bloody apps! Can't have apps for BBC etc it's all under the Sony experience and you can't use itv C4 without youview but you can't use that without an Ariel and I don't have one!
You can sort out your home page, and there is a shortcut for the apps on the bottom of the screen you can add apps to as well.

I plugged an aerial in for 30 seconds to get the apps to work. Many TVs are like this now with the apps.
I have no aerial at all so it's a bit of an issue I've had to order a crappy portable one for as you say 30 seconds. My Samsung q9fn and old Panasonic cx802b didn't have this issue frown



illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,197 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
gizlaroc said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
The bloody apps! Can't have apps for BBC etc it's all under the Sony experience and you can't use itv C4 without youview but you can't use that without an Ariel and I don't have one!
You can sort out your home page, and there is a shortcut for the apps on the bottom of the screen you can add apps to as well.

I plugged an aerial in for 30 seconds to get the apps to work. Many TVs are like this now with the apps.
I have no aerial at all so it's a bit of an issue I've had to order a crappy portable one for as you say 30 seconds. My Samsung q9fn and old Panasonic cx802b didn't have this issue frown
Can't you just use a coat hanger, like back in the day?!

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Ha tried it again with some coax and got enough of a signal woohoo


Edited by Trustmeimadoctor on Tuesday 30th June 15:58

illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,197 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Trustmeimadoctor said:
Tried a length of coax out the window but no luck
It's shielded, so you need to get the core touching something that'll act as an antenna.

All you've done is hung the cross section of the core out the window, so what 2mm squared?!




Just checked my Sky box and it's not HDR! FFS.

covmutley

3,028 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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What are the main things that I should look for in a tv. Im struggling to get it!

Take these two, both 65inch, both 4k, both 60hz refresh rate, specs look the same. Ok, so one is ambilight- but why the £300 difference?



https://ao.com/product/65pus6814-philips-tv-silver...
https://ao.com/product/65pus6554-philips-tv-silver...

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/compariso...

Edited by covmutley on Tuesday 30th June 16:05

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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illmonkey said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Tried a length of coax out the window but no luck
It's shielded, so you need to get the core touching something that'll act as an antenna.

All you've done is hung the cross section of the core out the window, so what 2mm squared?!




Just checked my Sky box and it's not HDR! FFS.
It's what I did wink

Sky q is barely 4k so lack of her isn't a surprise imho

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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I don't use the 4k on Sky.

I have it but never bother with it.

In fact, I actually find SDR better than quite a bit of HDR too.

HDR is set for 100nits, so cinema darkness, unless you sit in a pitch black room it is more often than not too dark for home viewing.

I think they are changing that moving forward though.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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I struggle with hdr going from extreme dark to bright scenes even topping out at say 1000 nits I can find it almost painful god knows what 4000 will be like !

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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My XF9005 settings...

SDR, Sky etc.

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Cinema Pro

Auto picture
Off

Brightness (backlight)
Max

Colour 48

Light Sensor
On

ADVANCED

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BRIGHTNESS

Brightness Max

Contrast 98

Gamma -2

Back level (brightness) 50

Black Adjust Off

Adv. Contrast Enhancer Off

Local Dimming Medium

X-Tended Dynamic Range Off

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COLOUR

Colour 48

Hue 0

Colour Temperature Expert 1

Advance colour temp
R Gain Max
G Gain Max
B Gain -4

R Bias 0
G Bias 0
B Bias -1

Colour gamma adjustments all at 0.

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CLARITY

Sharpness 49

Reality Creation Manual

Resolution 20

Mastered in 4k On

Random Noise reduction Off

Smooth Gradation Low

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MOTIONFLOW

True Cinema

Smoothness 1

Clearness 1

Film Mode Low

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VIDEO OPTION

All auto

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HDR


Brightness max
Contrast Max
Gamma 0
Black level 50

Black adjust Off

Adv,. Contrast Off

Local dimming Medium

X-tended dynamic range HIGH

All the rest the same.






Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th June 2020
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illmonkey said:
Just checked my Sky box and it's not HDR! FFS.
They should replace as part of an upgrade to UHD content - I amended mine very recently to add multi-room, UHD and roll my Netflix subs into Sky (also gaining UHD Netflix at the same time)

Paid nominal amount for a new 2TB UHD main box plus a mini to plug into the plasma.

Note that Sky are a pain in the arse to get through to at the moment - there's a thread on here with some recent posts on costs and contact methods:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

They're due to rock up to mine this Thursday, which is about 2 weeks after ordering

illmonkey

Original Poster:

18,197 posts

198 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Adrian E said:
illmonkey said:
Just checked my Sky box and it's not HDR! FFS.
They should replace as part of an upgrade to UHD content - I amended mine very recently to add multi-room, UHD and roll my Netflix subs into Sky (also gaining UHD Netflix at the same time)

Paid nominal amount for a new 2TB UHD main box plus a mini to plug into the plasma.

Note that Sky are a pain in the arse to get through to at the moment - there's a thread on here with some recent posts on costs and contact methods:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

They're due to rock up to mine this Thursday, which is about 2 weeks after ordering
I can't see anything that states they'll replace the box if I take out UHD. My box is maybe 2 months old also.

Trustmeimadoctor

12,601 posts

155 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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What box do you have?