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I'm helping a neighbour out with his cinema on a new build. The electrician has put the cabling in as per my sketch....I know the basics about Dolby5.1/7.2 etc but not sure how that would fit in with the high speaker points. A 5.1 system would use the two low points at the back only.
There are 6 points in the room, two at the back low down and four in high postions. No ceiling points. The 6 points go back to the rear of the TV.
He is looking to upgrade his old amp to accommodate, is there a system that would use those 4 high points ? Its a big room, something like 7m square.
There are 6 points in the room, two at the back low down and four in high postions. No ceiling points. The 6 points go back to the rear of the TV.
He is looking to upgrade his old amp to accommodate, is there a system that would use those 4 high points ? Its a big room, something like 7m square.
Edited by AndrewO on Monday 26th October 15:47
I'm likely to be an audio amateur compared to some on here, but in my experience a mid range 5.1 av receiver would be ok. One of the low rears for an active sub, 4 highs for side speakers, and centre somewhere near the Tv.
Most receivers will allow you to enter speaker details (s/m/l) and many will autoconfigure from the sitting position, to accommodate speaker distances to the listener along with polarity etc.
Most receivers will allow you to enter speaker details (s/m/l) and many will autoconfigure from the sitting position, to accommodate speaker distances to the listener along with polarity etc.
Reading back my first post....the electrician put the wires...I've then sketched them here.
I thought with 5.1 it was centre, two speakers front, two surround at the back plus a bass box at the front. Cables can be hid at the front behind an AV cabinet under the TV. So can the 4 high speakers be setup as the two front/two surround ? Or would he be best to just blank them off
I thought with 5.1 it was centre, two speakers front, two surround at the back plus a bass box at the front. Cables can be hid at the front behind an AV cabinet under the TV. So can the 4 high speakers be setup as the two front/two surround ? Or would he be best to just blank them off
AndrewO said:
I'm helping a neighbour out with his cinema on a new build. The electrician has put the cabling in as per my sketch....I know the basics about Dolby5.1/7.2 etc but not sure how that would fit in with the high speaker points. A 5.1 system would use the two low points at the back only.
There are 6 points in the room, two at the back low down and four in high postions. No ceiling points. The 6 points go back to the rear of the TV.
He is looking to upgrade his old amp to accommodate, is there a system that would use those 4 high points ? Its a big room, something like 7m square.
I'm not sure where to start here but none of this will produce anything which will actually work. I would advise to either rip the cabling out or forget trying to create a surround sound system all together. There are 6 points in the room, two at the back low down and four in high postions. No ceiling points. The 6 points go back to the rear of the TV.
He is looking to upgrade his old amp to accommodate, is there a system that would use those 4 high points ? Its a big room, something like 7m square.
Edited by AndrewO on Monday 26th October 15:47
A 5.1 system uses three speakers to the front ... left, right and centre. Then two overhead speakers ...often set up as rears behind the seating position. The centre speaker takes care of the voice ... the set-up you have depicted will effectively ensure that the 'voice' will always be heard from behind you. Whilst there are lots of Atmos configurations, they all start with left and right front channels, most with a centre channel but you can run without it and get the left and right channels to do this. What you cannot run without are two front channels ...
7m square room is large room ... probably too large for what he's trying to achieve.
Maybe have a read of the link below.
https://www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-...
So i would recommend that you use the heights as angled Atmos channels.
Something like the SVS Prime Elevations are perfect for this as you can mount them heigh on the wall and the angled driver face points the drivers down toward the listener, with great effect.
This is what is called a 5.1.4 system, 5 main speakers Front Left, Centre, Right and Rear Left & Right. Next is the number of subs, 1 in this case, then the heights / atmos channels, usually 2 or 4, named as Just Left / Rights or Front L/R and Rear L/R
For processors you just need a 9.1 or 9.2 processor Amp and it should allow you to set them up in your 5.1.4 setup.
Happy to help with gear when he is ready too.
Something like the SVS Prime Elevations are perfect for this as you can mount them heigh on the wall and the angled driver face points the drivers down toward the listener, with great effect.
This is what is called a 5.1.4 system, 5 main speakers Front Left, Centre, Right and Rear Left & Right. Next is the number of subs, 1 in this case, then the heights / atmos channels, usually 2 or 4, named as Just Left / Rights or Front L/R and Rear L/R
For processors you just need a 9.1 or 9.2 processor Amp and it should allow you to set them up in your 5.1.4 setup.
Happy to help with gear when he is ready too.
Thanks Vex...yes at the front the TV is wall mounted, AV table underneath with the AMP/Skybox etc and the cables can just feed the two fronts/centre on the floor.
The Room is pretty big, ideally utilise all the cabling that is structured into the wall if poss. The Electrician I expect has done some high end houses in the past and I think he's just put all this in referencing past installs but having chatted to him today he hasn't a clue about AV.
Would you go with one sub or two ?
The Room is pretty big, ideally utilise all the cabling that is structured into the wall if poss. The Electrician I expect has done some high end houses in the past and I think he's just put all this in referencing past installs but having chatted to him today he hasn't a clue about AV.
Would you go with one sub or two ?
Edited by AndrewO on Monday 26th October 23:04
It depends on what your neighbour wants performance wise (and how close you are to them! Lol)
One big one will be good enough, especially if he hasn't had anything before. But 2 are better, there is an odd anomaly that means 2 subs seem to go lower than a single of the same type.
However 2 need quite a bit more setting up to make sure they bolster rather than fight against each other.
Again, SVS make some of the best subs in the home cinema market place.
One big one will be good enough, especially if he hasn't had anything before. But 2 are better, there is an odd anomaly that means 2 subs seem to go lower than a single of the same type.
However 2 need quite a bit more setting up to make sure they bolster rather than fight against each other.
Again, SVS make some of the best subs in the home cinema market place.
Edited by VEX on Tuesday 27th October 18:41
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