Soundbar advice please - Sonos vs Bose

Soundbar advice please - Sonos vs Bose

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PR350

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669 posts

209 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Hi all,

Having finally left my trusty 42" Panny plasma behind for a 55" LG OLED I'm realising that although I think the picture is superb, the sound isn't, so I've decided on a (decent) soundbar, or at least one that seems decent!

Trouble is which one! I can man-maths the budget to an extent, but don't want to go wild as this is the first foray into these new fangled wotsits biggrin and have narrowed it to three choices. Room is a decent sized, but not capacious and not square. TV sits on a fairly large Atacama stand with 2 shelves - black smoked glass. Prices are Amazon, forgive me!

First, Sonos Arc - £748 - this would probably be on a standalone basis.
Second, Sonos Beam Gen 2, with a Sonos Sub Mini - total of £798
Third, Bose Smart 600, with a Bose Bass Module 500 - total of £798

I find it slightly amusing that both Sonos and Bose combos with Bass/Sub are priced identically smile

Anyone have any experience to share, recommendations or alternatives?

I would try and find somewhere to listen to both, but don't have anywhere particularly local, so thought the PH massive was a good alternative biggrin

M22s

559 posts

149 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I find I’m usually left wanting with Bose - I think the likes of Sonos have overtaken them now and where I’d be putting my money if I was buying a new one.

I have the original Sonos sound bar and have always been very impressed with it for clarity, dynamic range and clear volume. I’d suggest you consider holding of on buying the sub, as in my opinion the full size soundbars have more than enough bottom end. Or of course, if you can find somewhere you can trial with & without.

blingybongy

3,873 posts

146 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I recently picked up a Sonos Beam gen1 from Costco for 300.
I'm no audiophile but need dialogue boosting and a lump of volume just because it's fun.
The Sonos does an admirable job and to my mind needs no subs attaching.

ocrx8

868 posts

196 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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I’ve got the Bose Smart 300 (older version of the 600, very similar just without upward firing drivers) and Bass 500 combo and have been really pleased with it (small apartment). Not usually a Bose fan either.

Edited by ocrx8 on Saturday 18th March 22:03

Acorn1

643 posts

20 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Have you looked at the other soundbars?

I have the Samsung Q800A and I'm extremely happy with it.

Proper room filling sound and a huge SW.

Piginapoke

4,754 posts

185 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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I have the Beam and Sub, which works really well. You can also add surround speakers in time, which is one of the best things about Sonos, the modularity

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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PR350 said:
Hi all,

I can man-maths the budget to an extent….
How well can you do this?


https://www.stereonet.com/uk/news/nakamichi-dragon...


beanoir78

352 posts

101 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Have a Beam Gen2 for my office TV, it’s a definite improvement over the Gen1, quite noticeable particularly the dialogue.

I’m not sure it would be my first choice for a living room larger than 15sqm ish though.

manracer

1,544 posts

97 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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beanoir78 said:
Have a Beam Gen2 for my office TV, it’s a definite improvement over the Gen1, quite noticeable particularly the dialogue.

I’m not sure it would be my first choice for a living room larger than 15sqm ish though.
I have the following in a 15sqm room:

Beam Gen 1
Sub Gen 1
2 x One Gen 2 surround.

I am happy overall, I tweaked the surrounds to be slightly quieter but only by one or two clicks.

I find the sub is almost too powerful for TV and movies, great for audio though.

I have 2x One Gen 2 in the kitchen (wall mounted) and I am looking to pair them with a sub mini though actually I may move the sub to the kitchen and the a sub mini in the lounge, depending on how it sounds.

PR350

Original Poster:

669 posts

209 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Thanks for the replies

Was out on Saturday in the M2 with my mate and we stopped at a big Curry's on the off chance.

They had a Sonos Beam gen2 and Bose 600 at opposite ends of the aisle.

Initially thought the Bose was way better before realising it was hooked up to the bass 500. When switched off and going back and forward between the 2 - the store loved me haha - it was close, but the Sonos just sounded better overall. Basically, we both agreed the Bose needed the bass to sound fuller, but the Sonos sounded really good even without a separate bass/sub. Can only believe the Sonos and sub-mini will therefore sound great.

Pulled the trigger on both the Beam gen2 and sub-mini from Amazon - arrives Tuesday.

Wonder how long it'll take me to get the surrounds too biggrin

s70rmp

654 posts

129 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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I've got the Bose 900 Soundbar and couldnt be happier with it

i have to deal with Sonos speaker every day in work and I just dont rate them for either sound or quality

I didnt bother with a sub as the base from the sound bar is plenty enough for me and is controllable via the app

pincher

8,540 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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I’ve got a years-old Samsung soundbar and SW and was looking at a Sonos recently - can’t remember which one but as a stand alone, it didn’t seem that good (and I have some Sonos Ones, so do like the brand) - the sound just felt a bit weedy. I think if I had heard it with the Sub as well, my opinion may have been quite different.

For now, I’m sticking with my £250 Samsung setup.

PR350

Original Poster:

669 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Just as a quick follow up

for those that suggested others, I guess I may be a bit weird in that with an LG OLED55C26LD TV I wouldn't for a second consider matching it with a soundbar from another manufacturer such as Samsung etc. and although I considered an LG soundbar the reviews seemed to point that they weren't quite there in the same way Sonos or Bose were.

The Sonos Beam gen2 and Sub mini arrived yesterday and after relatively easy set up - albeit I don't think I've truly got into this yet - the sound quality from a few test pieces was significantly and noticeably better. Well it should be, shouldn't it biggrin The vocals in particularly were crisper and, when called upon, the big sounds and kick in of the sub brought nothing but smiles smile

Very happy overall with the choice, although as always there's a back of mind nag about the Bose - bed, lay in it etc.

Only thing I wonder is whether the Sonos supplied cable for the eArc HDMI to Beam should be upgraded - would there be a noticeable uplift if I did, and if so what would be good? Again, a quick scan on Amazon led to numerous weird sounding cables I'd never heard of! Any expertise would be welcome with thanks for listening to the daft questions biggrin

Acorn1

643 posts

20 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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PR350 said:
for those that suggested others, I guess I may be a bit weird in that with an LG OLED55C26LD TV I wouldn't for a second consider matching it with a soundbar from another manufacturer such as Samsung etc. and although I considered an LG soundbar the reviews seemed to point that they weren't quite there in the same way Sonos or Bose were.
I have an LG OLED matched to a Samsung - it sounds fantastic!

I also tried both the BOSE and SONOS at a demo in Richer Sounds, whilst good, they didn't sound as good as the Samsung to me.

Either way I'm sure you'll be happy smile

Digger

14,642 posts

191 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Which one do you have Acorn?

Acorn1

643 posts

20 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Q800A

Probably outdated already, but for the price point v sound at the time, it was a no brainer having listened to others.

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/samsung/1414284/sa...

Edited by Acorn1 on Wednesday 22 March 17:00

blingybongy

3,873 posts

146 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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PR350 said:
Just as a quick follow up

for those that suggested others, I guess I may be a bit weird in that with an LG OLED55C26LD TV I wouldn't for a second consider matching it with a soundbar from another manufacturer such as Samsung etc. and although I considered an LG soundbar the reviews seemed to point that they weren't quite there in the same way Sonos or Bose were.

The Sonos Beam gen2 and Sub mini arrived yesterday and after relatively easy set up - albeit I don't think I've truly got into this yet - the sound quality from a few test pieces was significantly and noticeably better. Well it should be, shouldn't it biggrin The vocals in particularly were crisper and, when called upon, the big sounds and kick in of the sub brought nothing but smiles smile

Very happy overall with the choice, although as always there's a back of mind nag about the Bose - bed, lay in it etc.

Only thing I wonder is whether the Sonos supplied cable for the eArc HDMI to Beam should be upgraded - would there be a noticeable uplift if I did, and if so what would be good? Again, a quick scan on Amazon led to numerous weird sounding cables I'd never heard of! Any expertise would be welcome with thanks for listening to the daft questions biggrin
The supplied cable is just fine.

beanoir78

352 posts

101 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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blingybongy said:
PR350 said:
Just as a quick follow up

for those that suggested others, I guess I may be a bit weird in that with an LG OLED55C26LD TV I wouldn't for a second consider matching it with a soundbar from another manufacturer such as Samsung etc. and although I considered an LG soundbar the reviews seemed to point that they weren't quite there in the same way Sonos or Bose were.

The Sonos Beam gen2 and Sub mini arrived yesterday and after relatively easy set up - albeit I don't think I've truly got into this yet - the sound quality from a few test pieces was significantly and noticeably better. Well it should be, shouldn't it biggrin The vocals in particularly were crisper and, when called upon, the big sounds and kick in of the sub brought nothing but smiles smile

Very happy overall with the choice, although as always there's a back of mind nag about the Bose - bed, lay in it etc.

Only thing I wonder is whether the Sonos supplied cable for the eArc HDMI to Beam should be upgraded - would there be a noticeable uplift if I did, and if so what would be good? Again, a quick scan on Amazon led to numerous weird sounding cables I'd never heard of! Any expertise would be welcome with thanks for listening to the daft questions biggrin
The supplied cable is just fine.
If you’re hoping to benefit from what eARC offers, then you’ll need HDMI 2.1 spec cable - I assume (haven’t checked mine actually) that the supplied cable is compliant.

Dolby Atmos doesn’t require HDMI 2.1 though, so unless you’re streaming 24bit music, then a lower spec cable will be fine.

James6112

4,318 posts

28 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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If interested, the Sonos certified refurbished are available, via the app


Patch1875

4,894 posts

132 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I got a refurb Arc not sure why it was refurbished but it seemed to be brand new in the box.