Plasma wall brackets
Discussion
Zod said:
Plotloss said:
Zod said:
Having put up a Panasonic last year, I'll just warn that the one I bought has a stupid arrangement for the HDMI sockets with their facing straight back rather than down and being insufficiently recessed, so that with a flush to wall bracket I had to add some washers to allow the cables to fit (it's a real pisser when the TV crushes the plug of an in-wall HDMI cable). It also has an layout with the two vertical bars of the bracket being much closer together than on any other TV I have seen.
Good TV though, despite all that.
Right angle HDMI M>F adaptor?Good TV though, despite all that.
E31Shrew said:
Zod said:
Plotloss said:
Zod said:
Having put up a Panasonic last year, I'll just warn that the one I bought has a stupid arrangement for the HDMI sockets with their facing straight back rather than down and being insufficiently recessed, so that with a flush to wall bracket I had to add some washers to allow the cables to fit (it's a real pisser when the TV crushes the plug of an in-wall HDMI cable). It also has an layout with the two vertical bars of the bracket being much closer together than on any other TV I have seen.
Good TV though, despite all that.
Right angle HDMI M>F adaptor?Good TV though, despite all that.
E31Shrew said:
E31Shrew said:
Zod said:
Plotloss said:
Zod said:
Having put up a Panasonic last year, I'll just warn that the one I bought has a stupid arrangement for the HDMI sockets with their facing straight back rather than down and being insufficiently recessed, so that with a flush to wall bracket I had to add some washers to allow the cables to fit (it's a real pisser when the TV crushes the plug of an in-wall HDMI cable). It also has an layout with the two vertical bars of the bracket being much closer together than on any other TV I have seen.
Good TV though, despite all that.
Right angle HDMI M>F adaptor?Good TV though, despite all that.
When you say a swivel arm, you mean one that means it can come away from the wall for access to the back?
And yes, it does have a large backside... I'm tempted to try and find the official panasonic mount so i know it will fit.
I brought one from here just before Christmas - http://www.tvfixings.co.uk/ and couldn't find cheaper. It's good quality as well.
theboyfold said:
E31Shrew said:
E31Shrew said:
Zod said:
Plotloss said:
Zod said:
Having put up a Panasonic last year, I'll just warn that the one I bought has a stupid arrangement for the HDMI sockets with their facing straight back rather than down and being insufficiently recessed, so that with a flush to wall bracket I had to add some washers to allow the cables to fit (it's a real pisser when the TV crushes the plug of an in-wall HDMI cable). It also has an layout with the two vertical bars of the bracket being much closer together than on any other TV I have seen.
Good TV though, despite all that.
Right angle HDMI M>F adaptor?Good TV though, despite all that.
When you say a swivel arm, you mean one that means it can come away from the wall for access to the back?
And yes, it does have a large backside... I'm tempted to try and find the official panasonic mount so i know it will fit.
Plotloss said:
Also when measuring, consider the loss that the plaster finish will put back on the hole. You wouldnt believe the amount of people who forget and then the television wont fit. I'm not saying you will but dont, just for clarity.
Silly question time, once the frame has been built. Would you then put plaster board or MDF up? And would you skim what goes up or just paint straight onto it?Sorry if that sounds daft but I didn't even think about that, I'm not Mr DIY, but have a good friend who is a chippy and will be able to help
These are very good and great value
http://www.m-formonline.co.uk/index.php
Bought one for our 52" LCD]
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http://www.m-formonline.co.uk/index.php
Bought one for our 52" LCD]
Co.
theboyfold said:
Plotloss said:
Also when measuring, consider the loss that the plaster finish will put back on the hole. You wouldnt believe the amount of people who forget and then the television wont fit. I'm not saying you will but dont, just for clarity.
Silly question time, once the frame has been built. Would you then put plaster board or MDF up? And would you skim what goes up or just paint straight onto it?Sorry if that sounds daft but I didn't even think about that, I'm not Mr DIY, but have a good friend who is a chippy and will be able to help
E31Shrew said:
theboyfold said:
Plotloss said:
Also when measuring, consider the loss that the plaster finish will put back on the hole. You wouldnt believe the amount of people who forget and then the television wont fit. I'm not saying you will but dont, just for clarity.
Silly question time, once the frame has been built. Would you then put plaster board or MDF up? And would you skim what goes up or just paint straight onto it?Sorry if that sounds daft but I didn't even think about that, I'm not Mr DIY, but have a good friend who is a chippy and will be able to help
theboyfold said:
E31Shrew said:
theboyfold said:
Plotloss said:
Also when measuring, consider the loss that the plaster finish will put back on the hole. You wouldnt believe the amount of people who forget and then the television wont fit. I'm not saying you will but dont, just for clarity.
Silly question time, once the frame has been built. Would you then put plaster board or MDF up? And would you skim what goes up or just paint straight onto it?Sorry if that sounds daft but I didn't even think about that, I'm not Mr DIY, but have a good friend who is a chippy and will be able to help
theboyfold said:
E31Shrew said:
theboyfold said:
Plotloss said:
Also when measuring, consider the loss that the plaster finish will put back on the hole. You wouldnt believe the amount of people who forget and then the television wont fit. I'm not saying you will but dont, just for clarity.
Silly question time, once the frame has been built. Would you then put plaster board or MDF up? And would you skim what goes up or just paint straight onto it?Sorry if that sounds daft but I didn't even think about that, I'm not Mr DIY, but have a good friend who is a chippy and will be able to help
In a lot of cases our clients have papered the false wall anyway!
We normally build all false walls for recessed screens out of MDF. The edge can be neater and you may not need to put a right angled aluminium piec ein to finish off.
Edited by E31Shrew on Wednesday 21st January 16:05
E31Shrew said:
Depends on the final result I wouldve thought. We've never tried to skim MDF! The finish we get is pretty well perfect and it just takes a bit of filler to tidy up. If you make sure the front is one piece and the sides butt up to that I wouldve though you'll be fine. Also a lot less messy than skimming!
True, I should have known you can't really skim MDF. I've got a good idea of the construction now, once I've drawn it up I'll stick it up here.
Been busy in Visio today, trying to line stuff up. Does anybody see anything wrong with this sort of layout?
The one thing I'm not sure about is how high up the false wall should go. I'm tempted to stop it short of the ceiling as at the moment we have about a metre of blank wall above the screen. If it's stopped short we could add in some rope lights around the top to add a little visual interest.
Plotloss, do you know a good place online where I can get some good value cable and wall plates? Ideally will need one with a pair of banana plugs for the centre speaker, and another with HDMI, 5x phono and VGA. I can do away with the phono and VGA, but it would be a shame to have to.
Plans are moving on, and have had the idea that the false wall doesn't actually end at the ceiling, but a little bit short. Which creates a trough and I could drop some rope lights or uplighters in there to add some interest. I'm just not sure how it will look if it goes all the way to the ceiling, as there will be a lot of blank space above the TV.
Ikea!
Well the speaker stand and coffee table is - nice drawing.
Being picky about speaker placement, you would get much better result with the rear speakers behind you head. The idea is that you are not supposed to hear where they are in the room.
If you can, you will get a much better 'surround' result if you can get two more speakers and make it a 7.1. I'd have one near the bottom of the stair and against the wall where the coffee table is by the right of the sofa.
That way you get a much better sense of envelopment in the sound, and the sound coming from the room itself rather than having just the effect of the odd sound coming from a foot behind your ears.
Well the speaker stand and coffee table is - nice drawing.
Being picky about speaker placement, you would get much better result with the rear speakers behind you head. The idea is that you are not supposed to hear where they are in the room.
If you can, you will get a much better 'surround' result if you can get two more speakers and make it a 7.1. I'd have one near the bottom of the stair and against the wall where the coffee table is by the right of the sofa.
That way you get a much better sense of envelopment in the sound, and the sound coming from the room itself rather than having just the effect of the odd sound coming from a foot behind your ears.
JustinP1 said:
Ikea!
Well the speaker stand and coffee table is - nice drawing.
Being picky about speaker placement, you would get much better result with the rear speakers behind you head. The idea is that you are not supposed to hear where they are in the room.
If you can, you will get a much better 'surround' result if you can get two more speakers and make it a 7.1. I'd have one near the bottom of the stair and against the wall where the coffee table is by the right of the sofa.
That way you get a much better sense of envelopment in the sound, and the sound coming from the room itself rather than having just the effect of the odd sound coming from a foot behind your ears.
50%!Well the speaker stand and coffee table is - nice drawing.
Being picky about speaker placement, you would get much better result with the rear speakers behind you head. The idea is that you are not supposed to hear where they are in the room.
If you can, you will get a much better 'surround' result if you can get two more speakers and make it a 7.1. I'd have one near the bottom of the stair and against the wall where the coffee table is by the right of the sofa.
That way you get a much better sense of envelopment in the sound, and the sound coming from the room itself rather than having just the effect of the odd sound coming from a foot behind your ears.
The coffee table is, the speaker stands aren't but they are the closest that I could find. The rear speakers can be moved, and are just shown there for 'illustration purposes'
the front ones will be stuck in place. So would you suggest they were toed in towards the centre of that couch? The one thing that drawing doesn't show is that that couch is up against a wall, so it can't go any further back.As for 7.1, I'm going to get this all sort and then gently move up from 5.1!
Plotloss said:
I personally wouldnt go to 7.2 the room and the layout doesnt justify it. If the sofas etc are to scale.
It's about to scale, but Google Sketch-Up is a dog to use if you know how to use 3ds Max, I lost my rag with it which is why it looks a little crude.To be honest, I've never heard a 7.x demo and I'm not sure quite how much it adds, but the main idea behind this is to make the room larger and get more seating space, and make the 5.1 work properly, as at the moment everything is off with the TV being in the corner.
theboyfold said:
Plans are moving on, and have had the idea that the false wall doesn't actually end at the ceiling, but a little bit short. Which creates a trough and I could drop some rope lights or uplighters in there to add some interest. I'm just not sure how it will look if it goes all the way to the ceiling, as there will be a lot of blank space above the TV.
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