The Men Who Made Us Fat
Discussion
B Huey said:
Halb said:
On now, BBC2.
1 in 4 is obese.
2 thirds are overweight.
I've heard these stats and I don't believe it. You only need to look around to see they are rubbish.1 in 4 is obese.
2 thirds are overweight.
No way the vast majority of people are overweight.
The country is full of fat people.
Most people in thier 40's have 2 or 3 stone more than Ideal.
1/3 of people probably are about right, but some people hide it well.
I'm thinking of the people in the team I'm working in at present.
The boss is 5 stone overweight.
5 contractors ? 1 is obese, 3 overweight, but one (me) is doing something about it, and one is a serial jogger who looks like he's made of skin and sticks, very underweight I think.
2 assistant chiefs, are more or less right
2 new starters are okay
one guy about 28 is putting it on, and must be obese
one woman was obese, but has lost about 3 stone, and is now bordering between overweight and right.
One single lad is very skinny
And one bloke my age (45) cycles 15 miles to work and is still abit overweight.
so that's 6 who are not overweight
2 who are but are doing something about it
2 morbidly obese
1 obese
4 overweight
6/15 not overweight
6/15 Overweight
3/15 Obese or Higher
These are all educated graduate engineers, most chartered, some fellows, so explain why half are doing nothing to stop their risk of early death ?
I think the price of things are a big factor, especially for young families who are on a tight budget.
You can buy vegetables, meat, spices, etc and spend time making decent meals, but it's more expensive than buying everyone a plastic tray with that same stuff inside (along with a concoction of preservatives, sugar and cheese) for much less per person. Not to mention the time savings that can be spent on watching soap operas and 'reality' tv. Just look at what McDonalds can offer for a quid.
The best diet is the one you can stick with, the problem is no-one wants to stick to a diet of vegetables, meat and beans when everyone around them is tucking into big macs, chocolate and crisps. We wouldn't have a problem with this diet if our environment was different. We've been eating bread a long time, which seems to get a lot of stick these days. It's even written in some 2000 year old book about our daily bread, and they weren't obese back then.
You can buy vegetables, meat, spices, etc and spend time making decent meals, but it's more expensive than buying everyone a plastic tray with that same stuff inside (along with a concoction of preservatives, sugar and cheese) for much less per person. Not to mention the time savings that can be spent on watching soap operas and 'reality' tv. Just look at what McDonalds can offer for a quid.
The best diet is the one you can stick with, the problem is no-one wants to stick to a diet of vegetables, meat and beans when everyone around them is tucking into big macs, chocolate and crisps. We wouldn't have a problem with this diet if our environment was different. We've been eating bread a long time, which seems to get a lot of stick these days. It's even written in some 2000 year old book about our daily bread, and they weren't obese back then.
New POD said:
1/3 of people probably are about right, but some people hide it well.
True. Was interesting in this programme where they scanned him and although he appeared thin (ish) outside, he had large amounts of visceral fat surrounding all his vital organs which was massively unhealthy.FlossyThePig said:
Fort Jefferson said:
Episode 3 wasn't on tonight, anyone know when it's being shown?
First we had people kicking a ball about screwing up the schedules, now it's people hitting a ball about. Tonight they were doing both at the same time.B Huey said:
I've heard these stats and I don't believe it. You only need to look around to see they are rubbish.
No way the vast majority of people are overweight.
The problem is, as the population gets bigger overweight to obese is becoming the norm and we don't see it anymore.No way the vast majority of people are overweight.
If you look at old documentary film footage you can see how small everyone used to be, even as recently as the 70's.
Xaero said:
We've been eating bread a long time, which seems to get a lot of stick these days. It's even written in some 2000 year old book about our daily bread, and they weren't obese back then.
Is the bread they ate then the same as the stuff that most eat now?http://www.livestrong.com/article/8907-need-sugar-...
Sparta VAG said:
New POD said:
1/3 of people probably are about right, but some people hide it well.
True. Was interesting in this programme where they scanned him and although he appeared thin (ish) outside, he had large amounts of visceral fat surrounding all his vital organs which was massively unhealthy.There is Fatorexia to consider as well. The reverse of Anorexia. These are people who are overweight, but look in a mirror and are convinced they see someone normal. No doubt this also affects ones perception of others. So if you truly don't think 2/3's of people are overweight, maybe you should have a good honest look at yourself?
All I see when I walk round town are fatties or people with posture problems. The only properly fit people are people who clearly are fit - visible muscles.
Xaero said:
I think the price of things are a big factor, especially for young families who are on a tight budget.
You can buy vegetables, meat, spices, etc and spend time making decent meals, but it's more expensive than buying everyone a plastic tray with that same stuff inside (along with a concoction of preservatives, sugar and cheese) for much less per person.
I don't believe this is true. The truth is that people are too lazy to cook from raw ingredients (me included sometimes), or perhaps they don't know how.You can buy vegetables, meat, spices, etc and spend time making decent meals, but it's more expensive than buying everyone a plastic tray with that same stuff inside (along with a concoction of preservatives, sugar and cheese) for much less per person.
You can make 'proper food' for the same or lower price than the packet crap, but you'll have to accept you'll use similar quality ingredients. The 'meat' they often use in these products is mechanically recovered and bares little relation to what we think of as meat.
If you want to make a chicken dish you'd be buying either a whole chicken, chicken breasts, thighs, etc - not the cheapest of the cheap recovered meat. These superior foods cost more, but is so much better for you it's worth quitting the fags, reducing the beer, cutting Sky, etc to pay for it.
If you want to make a chicken dish you'd be buying either a whole chicken, chicken breasts, thighs, etc - not the cheapest of the cheap recovered meat. These superior foods cost more, but is so much better for you it's worth quitting the fags, reducing the beer, cutting Sky, etc to pay for it.
InfoRetrieval said:
Xaero said:
I think the price of things are a big factor, especially for young families who are on a tight budget.
You can buy vegetables, meat, spices, etc and spend time making decent meals, but it's more expensive than buying everyone a plastic tray with that same stuff inside (along with a concoction of preservatives, sugar and cheese) for much less per person.
I don't believe this is true. The truth is that people are too lazy to cook from raw ingredients (me included sometimes), or perhaps they don't know how.You can buy vegetables, meat, spices, etc and spend time making decent meals, but it's more expensive than buying everyone a plastic tray with that same stuff inside (along with a concoction of preservatives, sugar and cheese) for much less per person.
I've watched this series thinking I would be shouting at the telly "stop giving people an excuse for being fat" But to be fair it's been a real eye opener, explaining how we have all been conned by the big food giants.
I'm not overweight, and never have been, because if my trousers got tight, I stopped eating so much, not just bought bigger trousers.
People do not get fat over night, they get fat one burger at a time.
I'm not overweight, and never have been, because if my trousers got tight, I stopped eating so much, not just bought bigger trousers.
People do not get fat over night, they get fat one burger at a time.
Tycho said:
Halb said:
Tycho said:
I've just started the Harcombe diet and it is wierd as I've dropped 2.5lbs in the last 2 days but cutting out dairy, carbs, processed food and sugars. It has been hard as I love coffee but you can't have milk and only decaf so I have had a ripping headache but I just had a bacon omlette for breakfast!
Black coffee? And why no dairy?Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff