Wheeler Dealers

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Clockwork Cupcake

74,404 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Jim the Sunderer said:
I was watching an old one with a Morgan 4, I'm sure I saw Edd me old China bashing on the wheel spinner with a steel-headed hammer eek
Is that the one where they pour literally hundreds of man hours into a complete chassis change, and then at the end declare a "profit" of a couple of hundred quid which would actually be an eye-watering loss with the labour charges?


anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Is that the one where they pour literally hundreds of man hours into a complete chassis change, and then at the end declare a "profit" of a couple of hundred quid which would actually be an eye-watering loss with the labour charges?
At least that one was quite interesting, rather than the "let's rebuild another turbo" episodes.

BossHogg

5,973 posts

177 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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Grahamdub said:
Ant does it for the love of cars laugh
I noticed that, made me chuckle. wink

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I want an SRT 10 cool

Graunching_dave

85 posts

74 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Jim the Sunderer said:
I was watching an old one with a Morgan 4, I'm sure I saw Edd me old China bashing on the wheel spinner with a steel-headed hammer eek
Is that the one where they pour literally hundreds of man hours into a complete chassis change, and then at the end declare a "profit" of a couple of hundred quid which would actually be an eye-watering loss with the labour charges?
You are obviously one of the people for whom the point of Wheeler Dealers has completely passed you by.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,404 posts

271 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Graunching_dave said:
You are obviously one of the people for whom the point of Wheeler Dealers has completely passed you by.
Am I? Please mansplain it to me.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,404 posts

271 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Grahamdub said:
I want an SRT 10 cool
It's utterly bonkers, isn't it. I rather like it, but also feel slightly dirty for saying so. Kind of like admitting to liking a Big Mac. hehe

dsmith1990

1,247 posts

145 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I will unashamedly admit to browsing Autotrader for Ram's on a regular basis and would love an SRT-10! Safe to say I enjoyed this one.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
It's utterly bonkers, isn't it. I rather like it, but also feel slightly dirty for saying so. Kind of like admitting to liking a Big Mac. hehe
I think I'd have to drive it while wearing double denim too laugh

generationx

6,645 posts

104 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Entertaining as the truck is the episode didn't really do anything new (again). I know this is now aimed primarily at American audiences who may not have seen so many repeats of the older series, but another clutch change?

I enjoy this show, albeit in a reduced capacity from its original "acheivable" projects, but it's getting very repetitive and the cars are getting more expensive. I know times change and there simply aren't any thousand quid hot hatches left, but these days the cars are more frequently out of reach for the program's original viewership.

Smollet

10,467 posts

189 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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I enjoyed that and also did have a look at what SRTs are about.
My only gripe, and it’s not just aimed at Ant, but the number of people these days who pronounce aitch haitch. There is only one aitch in aitch.

Adrian W

13,848 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Recorded it, Watching I now, next time I change a clutch I hope everything is as clean as that one, the bell housing is spotless and it’s supposed to have an oil seal gone.

Edited by Adrian W on Tuesday 19th February 22:11

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

99 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Is that the one where they pour literally hundreds of man hours into a complete chassis change, and then at the end declare a "profit" of a couple of hundred quid which would actually be an eye-watering loss with the labour charges?
Its only a loss if you charge yourself for the time to do it

A hundred man hours is reasonably acheivable for a dedicated home mechanic, maybe not in one hit like they do on the show, but say you've got one day a week to work on your car for 8 hours, you'd have it done in 3 months with no outlay on labour, just on parts.

Which of course means that for any actual home mechanic, it would take around 5 years to do because just as you started doing it, the postman would arrive and then you might as well put the kettle on for a brew, start the washing up whilst you wait for the kettle to boil, remember that you needed to hang the washing out BEFORE you covered your hands in oil and grease... then its lunchtime I guess and you've got pick the kids up from another birthday party...

(of course they do also assume that every home mechanic has a two or four post lift to make everything accessible and limitless professional tools)

Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Shakermaker said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Is that the one where they pour literally hundreds of man hours into a complete chassis change, and then at the end declare a "profit" of a couple of hundred quid which would actually be an eye-watering loss with the labour charges?
Its only a loss if you charge yourself for the time to do it

A hundred man hours is reasonably acheivable for a dedicated home mechanic, maybe not in one hit like they do on the show, but say you've got one day a week to work on your car for 8 hours, you'd have it done in 3 months with no outlay on labour, just on parts.

Which of course means that for any actual home mechanic, it would take around 5 years to do because just as you started doing it, the postman would arrive and then you might as well put the kettle on for a brew, start the washing up whilst you wait for the kettle to boil, remember that you needed to hang the washing out BEFORE you covered your hands in oil and grease... then its lunchtime I guess and you've got pick the kids up from another birthday party...

(of course they do also assume that every home mechanic has a two or four post lift to make everything accessible and limitless professional tools)
There are quite a number of TVR owners who have removed the body, some replacing the chassis, in less than 5 years. I went to one who'd completed most of the work in a single garage. There was hardly enough room to walk around. He had no lift. He removed doors, bonnet, boot, interior, and other bits, then raised the car on jacks, then jacks on bricks, put wooden crates under the body floors, lowered the chassis, got mates to remove the body to the drive, changed the chassis, got the mates to replace the chassis, replaced the body bits he'd removed and was back on the road well within a year.

There were two of them (brothers if memory serves) but then I'm sure Edd has help.

Re: the clutch change. I found the double clutch business interesting and would have preferred more on it. I'm glad there was no diagram drawn on a bench first with the bits being shown afterwards.

I liked the SRT. I would have preferred the car with a better chassis and suspension, lowered, with a two-seater body with a smallish boot though. You know, like a Viper. Shame no one's thought of that.

In the 60s, a friend removed the body from a +4 chassis (Triumph engine). Everything was removed apart from the rear tub. I was called in to give a hand to lift it. The chassis was then rolled out of the garage to enable the engine and gearbox to be removed. The new chassis was placed in the garage and as bits were removed from the old chassis, they were put on the new one. Took a while, but dad was an engineer and helped a lot. Took about a year, but then the owner was at uni. This was Soton and he lived in Bromley so he came home a lot of weekends.

Within a year of getting it on the road, a bus drove into it and smashed the back in.


Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,187 posts

199 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
Graunching_dave said:
You are obviously one of the people for whom the point of Wheeler Dealers has completely passed you by.
Am I? Please mansplain it to me.
The point is, it's to show you how you can work on a car yourself and turn a profit.
They do quite often stray from Ed's bodge it up with filler and rattle can over it days, the the idea is still the same.

SpeedBash

2,318 posts

186 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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SpeedBash said:
There has been two series since he left—— time for him to get over it / what has he actually been doing all this time?

BossHogg

5,973 posts

177 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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I've seen him on his own YouTube channel. wink

Scabutz

7,482 posts

79 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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SpeedBash said:
The way he said "dead weight" in the 1st answer was very telling. A psychoanalyst would have a field day with that.

Wonder who, sorry what, he meant. scratchchin

BossHogg

5,973 posts

177 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Owd awt yer 'and and you 'as yer answer. laugh