Dr Who… Awesome News If You're A Fan

[bstb3]

His "would you like a jelly baby" catchphrase is almost certain to upset someone though. .

[Moonhawk]

Tuna said:

There is a *lot* of bhing from 'fans' though. Who'da thought gender was such a big issue?

Perhaps we should try swapping a few traditionally female roles for male - and see if the bhing only happens one way.

[otolith]

Moonhawk said:

Perhaps we should try swapping a few traditionally female roles for male - and see if the bhing only happens one way.

Are there any they'd miss?

[Moonhawk]

otolith said:

Are there any they'd miss?

Perhaps not in Dr Who - but in terms of scifi or TV/movies in general - there are plenty.

Interestingly I cant find a single example of a gender swap for a major character (or even a minor one) that is anything other than male-->female, except in a small number of cases where there are two main actors and they are both gender swapped (e.g. The Overboard remake).

I wonder how people would react if a character like Lara Croft, Ellen Ripley or Catniss Everdeen were recast as a man.

Edited by Moonhawk on Friday 20th July 16:14

[FourWheelDrift]

Alan Ripley and Len Croft.

[otolith]

Alien, I'll give you that. If you gender flipped Lara Croft you'd just end up making an Indiana Jones movie.

There are precious few original female leads in Hollywood that aren't already just flipped male archetypes.

[marcosgt]

FourWheelDrift said:

New trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEc-OQ_oqDk

The first two seconds on loop is fun!

I thought I must have missed the start as it's so sudden, so kept hitting play - My wife came into see what I was watching!

M

[otolith]

Sarah Connor could be an interesting flip.

[Moonhawk]

marcosgt said:

FourWheelDrift said:

New trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEc-OQ_oqDk

The first two seconds on loop is fun!

I thought I must have missed the start as it's so sudden, so kept hitting play - My wife came into see what I was watching!

M

The suspicions about the new sonic seem to be confirmed

[FourWheelDrift]

LoonyTunes said:

I've got to be honest and say that her accent in the released trailer really put me off.

"A lot of planets have a North"

[Halb]

otolith said:

Alien, I'll give you that. If you gender flipped Lara Croft you'd just end up making a really incredibly stty Indiana Jones knock off.

There are precious few original female leads in Hollywood that aren't already just flipped male archetypes.

efa.

[Halb]

otolith said:

Sarah Connor could be an interesting flip.

there are very few characters that actually require a charcter to be xx or xy, but I reckon SC is one of them, the whole thing of being a soft, doughy mother sort, who has to change into a terminator herself, it's a brilliant story...such a shame they won't let it die now, at least for a generation.

[otolith]

Halb said:

otolith said:

Alien, I'll give you that. If you gender flipped Lara Croft you'd just end up making a really incredibly stty Indiana Jones knock off.

There are precious few original female leads in Hollywood that aren't already just flipped male archetypes.

efa.

And let's face it, the franchise has already done that itself!

[otolith]

Halb said:

otolith said:

Sarah Connor could be an interesting flip.

there are very few characters that actually require a charcter to be xx or xy, but I reckon SC is one of them, the whole thing of being a soft, doughy mother sort, who has to change into a terminator herself, it's a brilliant story...such a shame they won't let it die now, at least for a generation.

Ah, well, that's just you with your rigid ideas of masculinity

[Halb]

otolith said:

Halb said:

otolith said:

Sarah Connor could be an interesting flip.

there are very few characters that actually require a charcter to be xx or xy, but I reckon SC is one of them, the whole thing of being a soft, doughy mother sort, who has to change into a terminator herself, it's a brilliant story...such a shame they won't let it die now, at least for a generation.

Ah, well, that's just you with your rigid ideas of masculinity

I'm so toxic my burps make me ill

[FourWheelDrift]

They were at San Diego Comic Con yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pDOBGPGfWU

More videos are on youtube.

[Halmyre]

Moonhawk said:

Tuna said:

There is a *lot* of bhing from 'fans' though. Who'da thought gender was such a big issue?

Perhaps we should try swapping a few traditionally female roles for male - and see if the bhing only happens one way.

You'd have to find a long-running series where different female actresses have played the same character for a fair comparison. Or even a short-running series.

Ripley and Katniss, it wouldn't make sense to have a different *actress* in the role, never mind bending the gender. James Bond got away with it, but there's no story arc to maintain.

[otolith]

Halmyre said:

Ripley and Katniss, it wouldn't make sense to have a different *actress* in the role, never mind bending the gender. James Bond got away with it, but there's no story arc to maintain.

They cloned Ripley and brought her back from the dead with memories intact as a human/alien hybrid, wouldn’t have taken much exposition to change her into a man.

[defblade]

Moonhawk said:

ash73 said:

Trailer does look a bit crap, and I don't like her outfit. Time will tell, anyhow.

I think her accent is going to grate.

Edit: ^snap

Is it just me, or does she sound (and even look) exactly like Jane Horrocks?

...actually, maybe JH would have been a good call? She managed to make Bubble seem like she was from a different planet, and AbFAb isn't even SF

[ajprice]

Moonhawk said:

Perhaps we should try swapping a few traditionally female roles for male - and see if the bhing only happens one way.

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