Agent Coulson returns!

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Beefmeister

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230 months

Thursday 4th May 2017
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I don't think we've seen the end of Mack. He's only in the framework, not dead. I reckon something will happen to Hope in the Framework and he'll come back, at least I hope so as he's one of my favourite characters.

I'm guessing that Aida/Ophelia has transported Fitz somewhere else, as her new body was created by the Darkhold she's now basically a super powerful magical witch type thing.

They need Dr Strange to sort her out hehe

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th May 2017
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Beefmeister said:
I don't think we've seen the end of Mack. He's only in the framework, not dead. I reckon something will happen to Hope in the Framework and he'll come back, at least I hope so as he's one of my favourite characters.

I'm guessing that Aida/Ophelia has transported Fitz somewhere else, as her new body was created by the Darkhold she's now basically a super powerful magical witch type thing.

They need Dr Strange to sort her out hehe
But wouldn't the Framework be just switched off?

And real Aida is going to be terrifying... I wonder if there'll be a cross back to Ghostrider to bring the series full circle?

Beefmeister

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Thursday 4th May 2017
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Ooh that would be cool.

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th May 2017
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Beefmeister said:
Ooh that would be cool.
Ooo. Oooooo. OOooooooo... OOOoooooo........

Next episode - "The Return" - http://thefutoncritic.com/listings/20170424abc06/

Final Episode - "Worlds End" - http://thefutoncritic.com/listings/20170501abc06/

I hadn't seen those. They're just the blurb for the two episodes.

I'd put in a Spoiler tag, but I don't need to. Just don't look if you want to see a little synopsis of what's coming.

In fact - There are trailers for "The Return" out already.....

D-Angle

4,467 posts

242 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Brilliant episode!

Did anyone else clock that the Russian described himself as 'Designed Only for Killing'?

Beefmeister

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230 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Epic episode. Can't wait for next week.

SpudLink

5,783 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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james_tigerwoods said:
I wonder if there'll be a cross back to Ghostrider to bring the series full circle?
Good call.


D-Angle said:
Brilliant episode!

Did anyone else clock that the Russian described himself as 'Designed Only for Killing'?
Yes, I did. And he exists only as a head controlling his machine bodies.
I guess they figured a giant head with tiny limbs was a bit 'comc book'.


I love how good this show is now.


james_tigerwoods

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197 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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SpudLink said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I wonder if there'll be a cross back to Ghostrider to bring the series full circle?
Good call.
Just read the blurb from last nights penultimate episode - I was right smile

I need to watch last nights episode now... Really need to... smile

ali_kat

31,989 posts

221 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Just me that thought that last episode was cinema length & worthy?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I am getting VERY confused with this show, which I don't think I should be.

Am only up to date with UK Airings though I'm not too fussed that I've read a couple of spoilers... but what is going on? I can't work out who is an LMD and who isn't, and I can't work out how Fitz/Simmons worked out that everyone else was an LMD?

ali_kat

31,989 posts

221 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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This thread is due the US showings, so you will find it confusing & therell be a lot of spoilers!!

Beefmeister

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Thursday 11th May 2017
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ali_kat said:
Just me that thought that last episode was cinema length & worthy?
Absolutely not! Easily the best Marvel TV show, this series has got better and better.

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Shakermaker said:
Am only up to date with UK Airings
That's why

Shakermaker said:
I can't work out how Fitz/Simmons worked out that everyone else was an LMD?
The LMD alarm was triggered....

Shakermaker

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100 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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james_tigerwoods said:
The LMD alarm was triggered....
I thought that's how Simmons worked out Fitz was an LMD, but not everyone else?

Maybe I missed a bit!

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Shakermaker said:
james_tigerwoods said:
The LMD alarm was triggered....
I thought that's how Simmons worked out Fitz was an LMD, but not everyone else?

Maybe I missed a bit!
It was pretty confusing as the alarm was tripped when all the others came through - But also tripped when they both came through - I think you see that when Simmons watches them come through another alarm point.

Simmons worked out Fitz was an LMD by shooting him smile But even that was confusing as he faked the injury making her think that she was the LMD.

LMD Fitz turned out to be pretty evil. In fact, AOH* Fitz turned out to be pretty evil so I wonder how this will affect AOS** Fitz going forward.

All things considered AOS Fitz has been dealt a crappy hand

*AOH - Agents of Hydra
**AOS - Agents of Shield

D-Angle

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242 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I'd go as far as to say Aida/Ophelia is one of the best villains Marvel have right now. The scene where she finally goes full-on mental was brilliant.

(Though it did make me think "Cheer up Fitz, we've all had exes like that" hehe)

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I'd appease Ophelia, given half a chance. lick

MissChief

7,107 posts

168 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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D-Angle said:
I'd go as far as to say Aida/Ophelia is one of the best villains Marvel have right now. The scene where she finally goes full-on mental was brilliant.

(Though it did make me think "Cheer up Fitz, we've all had exes like that" hehe)
The complete sea change she went through in the space of five seconds was very well done I thought. She's been a great villain.

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Aida was never going to end well, but you just didn't see this coming - It's been brilliant.

I suspect that the Framework will feature in future seasons... Are there more planned??

SpudLink

5,783 posts

192 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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MissChief said:
The complete sea change she went through in the space of five seconds was very well done I thought. She's been a great villain.
Agreed. The A.I. suddenly flooded with all of human emotion and as a result going full-psycho. Like an angry toddler, but with super powers.

I’m one of those who complains about the American TV ‘season’ that runs for six months, plus breaks. But they are now starting to make good use of the format by taking time to develop the villain.
In the MCU films they’ve got about 2 hours to take the villain’s arc from introduction to defeat. Rather than focus on the bad guy, they generally choose to spend more time with the heroes. That’s not necessarily a bad thing because they’re creating likable characters that the audience are happy to watch again and again, but the villains end up one dimensional and forgettable.