Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: Ch5 9pm
Discussion
Thesprucegoose said:
Laurel Green said:
This ex carbon trader seems a genuine chap to me.
Sounded like a scammer to meI know a lot of Chinese people. They often drive old models of premium marques - it would attract attention if they drove newer ones. The enforcers should have looked for a shoebox under the bed or in the wardrobe. Cash. Always cash. Usually lots of it. It's very rare that they would spend it on a fancy house or fancy furnishings.
wjwren said:
Strange one with the family will. I couldnt work out who had the share of the will.
It was certainly a lesson in the expense and risks of litigation over wills. Aiui there were six kids, the father had previously said they would all inherit but the actual will left everything to the eldest. The remaining 5 siblings had joined forces to contest but had lost and now, individually and collectively faced legal bills. It wasn't clear whether they were being sued by their own lawyers or the opposition. It also seemed two of the 5 were doing very much better in life than the remaining three. Maybe there was other stuff I missed due to TV surfing.It's a complete crocodile swamp. Some years back a friend of a friend asked me for advice as they had lived overseas virtually all their life and needed the UK legal system regarding wills and intestacy explaining. Essentially she was the estranged granddaughter of a very famous person, at one time a household name, who had died intestate. Someone had wound her up about this.
I simply pointed her to probate office contacts so she could get the details of probate, and explained the rules regarding who inherits and the order / share rules for dealing with intestacy. She then worked out that the person(s) who obtained the grant of representation for the estate had ignored her side wrongly, possibly because of the estrangement they didn't know she was an issue.
Cutting long story short after a long period when there was zero acknowledgement of her existence let alone entitlement, out of the blue the family appeared to have taken legal advice and offered her 32k. As she'd worked out it should have been 46k the last I heard she was launching legal action from overseas, advised otherwise of the risks regarding costs. Never heard anymore as I effectively avoided all contact from a complete bunny boiler with definitely a touch of the mentals.
I caught around five minutes of one of these tonight while channel surfing, I have no idea of the size of this particular debt, or how it had been incurred, but there was a Mercedes coupe on the driveway of the debtor’s house which was the subject of a HP agreement, so it couldn’t be touched.
He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
Frank7 said:
I caught around five minutes of one of these tonight while channel surfing, I have no idea of the size of this particular debt, or how it had been incurred, but there was a Mercedes coupe on the driveway of the debtor’s house which was the subject of a HP agreement, so it couldn’t be touched.
He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
Key words highlighted above, towing fees, storage costs, auction fees, goodness knows what else.He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
As soon as it goes to removal of goods stage debtor is completely on a loser.
The Mad Monk said:
FiF said:
As soon as it goes to removal of goods stage debtor is completely on a loser.
Could you summarise for us what the moral of that is?Unless you meant to ask another question, but didn't.
FiF said:
Frank7 said:
I caught around five minutes of one of these tonight while channel surfing, I have no idea of the size of this particular debt, or how it had been incurred, but there was a Mercedes coupe on the driveway of the debtor’s house which was the subject of a HP agreement, so it couldn’t be touched.
He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
Key words highlighted above, towing fees, storage costs, auction fees, goodness knows what else.He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
As soon as it goes to removal of goods stage debtor is completely on a loser.
FiF said:
It was certainly a lesson in the expense and risks of litigation over wills. Aiui there were six kids, the father had previously said they would all inherit but the actual will left everything to the eldest. The remaining 5 siblings had joined forces to contest but had lost and now, individually and collectively faced legal bills.
And the eldest sibling did not decide to do as the parent had wished?Frank7 said:
Still intrigued, I established that a 57 plate would be 2007-2008, I then Googled price for used 2007 Mercedes C230, they came back as between £4000 and £7000, so if someone got it for £1650 after charges, or £2000 before charges, it sounds good to me, but to reiterate, what I know about car pricing, you could write on the back of a first class stamp.
They work on what they *think* will be the absolute least they’ll get at auction and assume that a car with no keys or paperwork sold on a soggy Wednesday afternoon when no buyers turn up. I think I remember one of these programmes saying that if it achieves more than the bailiffs took it for then the excess is used to cover the debt/fees or returned to the debtor if the existing debt/fees has been cleared.Frank7 said:
FiF said:
Frank7 said:
I caught around five minutes of one of these tonight while channel surfing, I have no idea of the size of this particular debt, or how it had been incurred, but there was a Mercedes coupe on the driveway of the debtor’s house which was the subject of a HP agreement, so it couldn’t be touched.
He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
Key words highlighted above, towing fees, storage costs, auction fees, goodness knows what else.He also owned a Mercedes C230 on a 57 plate, no idea what year that made it, but the Crown Court agent guy said that if they took it, and it went to auction, after fees, it probably wouldn't make £1000.
Now I freely admit that I have zero idea of what new cars cost, although my wife paid £17,000 last June, (2017), for a top of the range new Peugeot 2008, but the sales manager’s father turned out to be my wife’s father’s cousin, so he gave her a good deal.
But I found it hard to believe that a 57 plate C230 Mercedes would not bring a grand after fees.
Sure enough, when the credits rolled, it had cleared £1650, so I’m assuming someone got it for a couple of grand, can’t be bad, was it good?
As soon as it goes to removal of goods stage debtor is completely on a loser.
As before, it's all designed to put pressure on the debtor, if you owe it, just pay up to your best ability as not doing so is the start of a slippery and expensive rapidly steepening slope.
FiF said:
The Mad Monk said:
FiF said:
As soon as it goes to removal of goods stage debtor is completely on a loser.
Could you summarise for us what the moral of that is?Unless you meant to ask another question, but didn't.
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